Ladies - - Does she look bulky?
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
Offensive to Madonna? I can't imagine that she'd care. I would wager that my arms would be close to that 'bulky' if I dropped my BF low enough. But I'll never know.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
Talk about turning on one of your own. Hmmmm. Nice
What did you mean by this??
I'm been waiting for clarification on that response. @jorinya0 -
Personally, about half those arms would be just fine with me or maybe even a quarter. And I am the same age as Madonna.
Just asked hubby. His response. Nah.0 -
I would love to have that much definition. I am not, however, at this point in time, willing to do what it takes to get it. I'd definitely put her on my "goal body" wall though
I can see how some women might call her "bulky" but I definitely don't. 0 -
justcat206 wrote: »I would love to have that much definition. I am not, however, at this point in time, willing to do what it takes to get it. I'd definitely put her on my "goal body" wall though I can see how some women might call her "bulky" but I definitely don't.
So you see how some women would use the definition of bulky wrong.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Talk about turning on one of your own. Hmmmm. Nice
What did you mean by this??
I'm been waiting for clarification on that response. @jorinya
Check out the fr I sent you. The explanation is there my friend.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.
This doesn't make much sense to me. They are saying they don't want to put in the effort for fear of looking like that, and you find it offensive because they don't understand that it would take effort to look like that, and because you put in a lot of effort to try and look like that.
Why would they say they don't want to put in the effort unless they knew it took effort?0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Talk about turning on one of your own. Hmmmm. Nice
What did you mean by this??
I'm been waiting for clarification on that response. @jorinya
Check out the fr I sent you. The explanation is there my friend.
So you won't answer the question.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.
I want a flat stomach and defined arms. I lift dumbbells, do resistance training and cardio. I can't go to a gym because of some reasons I don't want to get into. This illness is a pain. I was on Level 3 of 30 Day Shred when it struck me. Once recovered I will be going after the body I want but with defined muscle tone not overly muscular. Don't want to scare my husband, lol.
If you want anything in this world you gotta work damn hard to get it. That includes having a fab body!0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.
This doesn't make much sense to me. They are saying they don't want to put in the effort for fear of looking like that, and you find it offensive because they don't understand that it would take effort to look like that, and because you put in a lot of effort to try and look like that.
Why would they say they don't want to put in the effort unless they knew it took effort?
That’s the thing, a lot of the people (that I’ve seen lately at least) say that they want to avoid looking like that, because for them it just sort of instantly happens without doing much. If they said they don’t want to put in the effort to achieve a look they don’t want, I would totally respect that.
Anyway, all this is starting to make my head hurt. Everyone can have whatever goals they choose, obviously, and preferences vary in terms of what each person’s deal physique looks like. I simply found the misapprehensions about what it takes to become lean and muscular frustrating. I’m going to just let it go now. 0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »
Talk about turning on one of your own. Hmmmm. Nice
What did you mean by this??
I'm been waiting for clarification on that response. @jorinya
Check out the fr I sent you. The explanation is there my friend.
So you won't answer the question.
Here in public? Ah God. Man your killing me. Lol0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.
This doesn't make much sense to me. They are saying they don't want to put in the effort for fear of looking like that, and you find it offensive because they don't understand that it would take effort to look like that, and because you put in a lot of effort to try and look like that.
Why would they say they don't want to put in the effort unless they knew it took effort?
That’s the thing, a lot of the people (that I’ve seen lately at least) say that they want to avoid looking like that, because for them it just sort of instantly happens without doing much. If they said they don’t want to put in the effort to achieve a look they don’t want, I would totally respect that.
Anyway, all this is starting to make my head hurt. Everyone can have whatever goals they choose, obviously, and preferences vary in terms of what each person’s deal physique looks like. I simply found the misapprehensions about what it takes to become lean and muscular frustrating. I’m going to just let it go now.
They may think it does happen easily because they start a more intense training program and what happens? Their muscles "bulk" up from water retention. If you don't understand that this is natural, you would probably think you just put on a lot of muscle mass quickly.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I think all this arguing over terminology misses the point. Some women who say they don't want to lift heavy for fear of getting bulky are talking about this look that Madonna has. Whether you agree with their terminolgy is fairly irrelevant. The point is, they don't want to look like that.
...and they never will. It takes hard work. It's not like Madonna just lifts a few days a week and this accidentally happens.
I don't care if women don't want to look like Madonna or any other woman. But to think that it's so easy to look like that--that you can achieve it with minimal effort at the gym and it's somehow an inevitable conclusion--is borderline offensive.
So now you are saying that a "normal" woman can never have an "extraordinary" body? No one is offending anyone so I don't see how you are taking offense to that. If a woman wants to lift, she has that right, if she doesn't want to lift she also has that right. Hard word, dedication, focus, determination and resolve can achieve even the impossible. How you want to look is entirely up to you and no one can tell you that you cannot achieve what you want to achieve.
I think her point was that it takes a great deal of work, dedication, and targeted effort to get that look, whereas some women are of the opinion that the second they pick up a dumbbell, they’ll develop big strong bulky arms. This can be a little offensive to those who in fact train intensively exactly for that, and who know that achieving this result is not effortless. That attitude downplays the dedication and hard work they put in towards getting a lean and muscular appearance.
It’s one thing to want a less muscular look for yourself, and quite another thing to act like you could achieve that look if you put in the slightest bit of effort when there are people out there busting their err backs to get to that point.
This doesn't make much sense to me. They are saying they don't want to put in the effort for fear of looking like that, and you find it offensive because they don't understand that it would take effort to look like that, and because you put in a lot of effort to try and look like that.
Why would they say they don't want to put in the effort unless they knew it took effort?
That’s the thing, a lot of the people (that I’ve seen lately at least) say that they want to avoid looking like that, because for them it just sort of instantly happens without doing much. If they said they don’t want to put in the effort to achieve a look they don’t want, I would totally respect that.
Anyway, all this is starting to make my head hurt. Everyone can have whatever goals they choose, obviously, and preferences vary in terms of what each person’s deal physique looks like. I simply found the misapprehensions about what it takes to become lean and muscular frustrating. I’m going to just let it go now.
They may think it does happen easily because they start a more intense training program and what happens? Their muscles "bulk" up from water retention. If you don't understand that this is natural, you would probably think you just put on a lot of muscle mass quickly.
This is a very good point, and definitely an understandable thing to think. Oh well.0 -
@yopeeps025 , so are you going to accept my fr. Answer me here and I'll answer you here too. Don't worry, I'm a big girl, I won't take offense if you say no. Btw I think you have come a long way on your journey, your profile pic shows that, well done you. Is that enough butt kissing for you,lol.0
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@yopeeps025 , so are you going to accept my fr. Answer me here and I'll answer you here too. Don't worry, I'm a big girl, I won't take offense if you say no. Btw I think you have come a long way on your journey, your profile pic shows that, well done you. Is that enough butt kissing for you,lol.
Your Fr is not showing up. I think I know where you are going with this though. You are saying in a way she bought that shredded body and you feel that she cheated to get it.
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Nope. That not it at all. Shock and horror. I don't like plastic surgery, that's just me. As for her body, if she thinks its ok for her then its ok for her. A little bit too much for my liking. But that's just me.
You declined my fr that's why its not showing up
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Nope. That not it at all. Shock and horror. I don't like plastic surgery, that's just me. As for her body, if she thinks its ok for her then its ok for her. A little bit too much for my liking. But that's just me.
You declined my fr that's why its not showing up
I actually sent you one.
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@yopeeps025 , very sly work. I salute you. Decline my fr then send me one, lol. We had a deal. Should I still answer you as technically speaking you broke the deal. Little tip, you should be careful how much power you give a person. Now the ball is in my court, maw hahaha.
Ok enough of that, I will answer shortly, let me finish my cup of tea.
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