No Sugar Diet
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staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
But the point is that you don't know that it is the cutting out sugar that lead to your weight loss, if you aren't tracking calories. You may empirically believe that, but without tracking the calorie intake before and after, you can't definitively say that you were eating the same amount of calories, just less sugar, and lost weight. Science doesn't work that way.
Also, I have no issue with people contributing what works for them. I was appreciative of finding out that I didn't HAVE to cut out foods in order to lose weight, that I could simply eat the foods I enjoy in a calorie deficit and be successful. That is advice that leads to success that I think many people, when the light bulb goes off, are truly appreciative of.
Yes, all of the above.
It sounds like you replaced some less satiating foods with some more satiating foods, causing you to eat less food overall. Which is great.
However, it's not because your body defies physics. It's ultimately because you're eating less calories.0 -
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staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
the problem with your "advice" is that it is not based on science. If you reduce sugar and keep eating in a surplus, or maintenance, you are not going to lose weight. So if a newbie, or someone else, comes in here and sees your post and thinks "hmm, all I have to do is cut sugar out and not track calories and I will lose weight" then if they try that and continue to over eat they will not lose, and will be further behind the eight ball.
I never said that I was a professional giving scientific advice. I don't remember the OP asking if there were any doctors on board that were willing to give them advice based on their proven scientific research. I have experience, that's all. I thought that's what these posts were all about...suggestions & advice. Again, like I said, it worked for ME.
Now, I remember why I avoid posting on Message Boards & live in the real world...
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franticbuyer42 wrote: »Has any one tried a No Sugar diet and been successful? I would like to know what diet strategy you used as reference and guidance.
No, I personally think a "no sugar" diet would be quite unhealthy (it would eliminate fruits, veggies, and dairy, as well as plenty of other nutritious foods, and a basically meat-focused diet, which is what is likely would be, leaves a lot to be desired).
Beyond that, I don't think it would serve any purpose. I do think it makes sense to understand where your excess calories are coming from (if you have problems keeping to your calorie goal or are just starting to reduce your calories) and to make sure that you have an overall nutrient-rich diet, and so cutting down on the quantities of higher-calorie and lower nutrient foods (including those with added sugar which can be a significant part of these for many people) is a sensible thing to do. The beauty of the MFP logging tool, however, is that there's no need--and IMO no benefit at all--to doing any kind of special or fad diet, you can simply see if you are eating lots of sugar and if so cut down on the foods that are contributing it to see if that's helpful to you.
Personally, I did try cutting out added sugar a couple of times. First, when I first started this to help break some emotional eating habits and get used to not snacking at all, and, second, after Christmas to get back on track and see if it helped me get rid of the last few pounds. I haven't found it an especially difficult thing to do short term, but I can't say there were really any benefits either--I find I prefer being able to work some sweets into my diet in moderation.0 -
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staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
the problem with your "advice" is that it is not based on science. If you reduce sugar and keep eating in a surplus, or maintenance, you are not going to lose weight. So if a newbie, or someone else, comes in here and sees your post and thinks "hmm, all I have to do is cut sugar out and not track calories and I will lose weight" then if they try that and continue to over eat they will not lose, and will be further behind the eight ball.
I never said that I was a professional giving scientific advice. I don't remember the OP asking if there were any doctors on board that were willing to give them advice based on their proven scientific research. I have experience, that's all. I thought that's what these posts were all about...suggestions & advice. Again, like I said, it worked for ME.
Now, I remember why I avoid MFP & live in the real world...
You are giving incorrect advice based on an experience that you assume is real, when in fact it is not.
Therefore, some of us have no choice but to correct the record for others that are new to losing weight and trying to learn.0 -
I cut out all added sugar for a month a year or so ago. I did it to support my daughter who wanted to try it. I cut out cake, cookies, candy, ice cream, anything with what I considered added sugar. I still ate fruit, drank milk, etc.
This is what happened: nothing.
I lost no weight, had no more energy, felt no better or differently. I didn't have any particular expectations.
At the end of the month I went back to eating normally. End of story.0 -
staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
the problem with your "advice" is that it is not based on science. If you reduce sugar and keep eating in a surplus, or maintenance, you are not going to lose weight. So if a newbie, or someone else, comes in here and sees your post and thinks "hmm, all I have to do is cut sugar out and not track calories and I will lose weight" then if they try that and continue to over eat they will not lose, and will be further behind the eight ball.
I never said that I was a professional giving scientific advice. I don't remember the OP asking if there were any doctors on board that were willing to give them advice based on their proven scientific research. I have experience, that's all. I thought that's what these posts were all about...suggestions & advice. Again, like I said, it worked for ME.
Now, I remember why I avoid MFP & live in the real world...
You are giving incorrect advice based on an experience that you assume is real, when in fact it is not.
Therefore, some of us have no choice but to correct the record for others that are new to losing weight and trying to learn.
More power to you...have a great day!
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Green bananas are nasty!staceyseeger wrote: »My sugar sources are from my veggies, fruit is limited to 1-2 green bananas after hard workout...
Carry on...0 -
I didn't read all this, but I see no reason to follow a low sugar/low carb diet unless you must. I must and it is hard! That being said, it is impossible to cut all sugar from your life. There are sugars in vegetables and nearly everything you eat. In order to lower it, you should set a guideline for what is an acceptable amount for you. I'm low-er in carbs (not low by some standards) and low in sugars. I regularly eat around or under 20 g sugars a day and under 100 carbs. This is not a style of eating that is sustainable or necessary for most. If it isn't sustainable for you and you have no medical need to do it, then it won't be a successful weight loss tool.0
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
Green bananas are nasty!staceyseeger wrote: »My sugar sources are from my veggies, fruit is limited to 1-2 green bananas after hard workout...
Carry on...
Bananas are best consumed after turning black and in the form of bread...0 -
The point is, unless you are logging and know your are or are not in a deficit, you can not make the claim that it merely was the removal off added sugar and not reduction of overall energy in...staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
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This is what you deal with when conversing with someone involved in a "diet cult". You can't fight faith with facts...staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
the problem with your "advice" is that it is not based on science. If you reduce sugar and keep eating in a surplus, or maintenance, you are not going to lose weight. So if a newbie, or someone else, comes in here and sees your post and thinks "hmm, all I have to do is cut sugar out and not track calories and I will lose weight" then if they try that and continue to over eat they will not lose, and will be further behind the eight ball.
I never said that I was a professional giving scientific advice. I don't remember the OP asking if there were any doctors on board that were willing to give them advice based on their proven scientific research. I have experience, that's all. I thought that's what these posts were all about...suggestions & advice. Again, like I said, it worked for ME.
Now, I remember why I avoid MFP & live in the real world...
You are giving incorrect advice based on an experience that you assume is real, when in fact it is not.
Therefore, some of us have no choice but to correct the record for others that are new to losing weight and trying to learn.0 -
staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »staceyseeger wrote: »I'm replacing the fruit snacking with jerky, turkey burgers & eggs. No calorie reduction. My body just doesn't seem to metabolize sugar like I want it to.
I'm just saying that this is what works for me & I'm sticking to it. Under my doctors recommendation & supervision.
How do you know that's not the reason? You don't even log in your diary?
No, I quit logging in my diary some time ago. I counted calories & points for 2 years. Again, what worked for me was to Eat Clean & eat until I was full. Success doesn't mean that you have logged every single morsel every day, follow the perfect macros, log exercise calories burned & swear by it, just because MFP has it listed. Success is being able to admit that you've been defeated many times, but it has only made you stronger. This is me. And I have been successful at what worked for me because I am satisfied with my accomplishments.
I am contributing to what has worked for me. And give the OP other options to look at. I know I was appreciative when receiving advice that led to success.
the problem with your "advice" is that it is not based on science. If you reduce sugar and keep eating in a surplus, or maintenance, you are not going to lose weight. So if a newbie, or someone else, comes in here and sees your post and thinks "hmm, all I have to do is cut sugar out and not track calories and I will lose weight" then if they try that and continue to over eat they will not lose, and will be further behind the eight ball.
I never said that I was a professional giving scientific advice. I don't remember the OP asking if there were any doctors on board that were willing to give them advice based on their proven scientific research. I have experience, that's all. I thought that's what these posts were all about...suggestions & advice. Again, like I said, it worked for ME.
Now, I remember why I avoid posting on Message Boards & live in the real world...
The laws of physics define the real world. Based on that fact, I'm not sure where you live.0 -
I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!0 -
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@joRocka I am impressed. I thought Rocky going after a chicken was hard.0
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rabbits is where it's at... chickens are child's playmattyc772014 wrote: »@joRocka I am impressed. I thought Rocky going after a chicken was hard.
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asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
I'm glad I'm not the only one that went there...0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
You never know unless you try0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
You never know unless you try
Let me guess, you'd be willing to assess how accurate her movements are... FOR SCIENCE!!!0 -
Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
It hurts, but I can.
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Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
It hurts, but I can.
I might could if I did some HIIT without a sports bra. Which would definitely hurt.
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ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
You never know unless you try
Let me guess, you'd be willing to assess how accurate her movements are... FOR SCIENCE!!!
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ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »asflatasapancake wrote: »I'm always confused/amused at how being allowed to eat sugar and all over foods in moderation = a diet completely laden with pure sugar.
eating sugar =/= 2000 calories daily allowance of calories in the forum of twinkies.
Much like eating a diet that includes protein does not automatically mean all I do is eat rabbit's I have personally caught by hand and skinned myself. Like extremes- they aren't necessary!
Cause, ya know, the sneaky evil hidden sugars, the pesky processed sugars, and the sugars that just plain look at me wrong. What is sugar looking at? Really? Mind your own business, sugar!
Just look at those shifty eyes.
Some other body part - not eyes - is what I see.
*retrieves mind from gutter*
Hmm....I don't think I could move mine around like that.
You never know unless you try
Let me guess, you'd be willing to assess how accurate her movements are... FOR SCIENCE!!!
Well I mean come on...it's SCIENCE after all.
I'll consider it my own cross to bear.
I shall now take my seat at the dirty old men table.0
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