Study: Obese men have just a '1 in 210' chance of attaining a healthy body weight
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Who cares? I make my own luck. -65 pounds down. I'm going to maintain, too.
sucks for the 123 women who give up or think they're done when the weight comes off, I guess.0 -
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[insert Shia LaBeouf video here]0
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Urgh so many issues with this article.
It doesn't say whether people were trying to lose weight and whether they were trying to do so for the full period of time concerned.
It measures success as going from an obese BMI to a "normal" BMI within a year - is normal healthy? or an average? Because the two aren't the same! And many people who are obese have too much weight to lose in a year, or at least have enough to lose to reach a healthy BMI that they won't consider it not a success to take more than a year to do so! If someone got to "overweight" BMI in a year, and "normal" the year after, their success wouldn't even register because they're going from overweight not obese for the purposes of this study, right?!
I'm pretty sure that people who stick to sensible diets lose weight and those who give up or aren't dieting (or changing their lifestyle, w/e) "properly" don't. So assuming that the 210 men were trying to lose weight, all this tells me is that 209 of them either had too much to lose in that period of time or weren't doing it properly/didn't stick to it. Moral of the story? Stick to what works and don't give up!0 -
Anyone can come up with statistics. 40% of all people know that.
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Then 209 of y'all are SoL, because I did it.0
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6502programmer wrote: »Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.
Yup!
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An article by a "science writer" that doesn't even link to the paper in question?
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I guess I will be that one in 210.0
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But what are the odds for people who spend all of their time and energy searching for excuses to fail?Reading the article, it looks like the study is only looking at the data from British health records. There's no indication that many of the people included in the study dataset even had been on a deliberate weight loss plan. The statistic is possibly skewed more heavily towards failure if they aren't evaluating for individual plans or commitment levels (self initiated vs. doctor recommended).
Unfortunately a lot of people will take that one piece of information to justify their own defeatist mindset and give themselves permission to fail
Yeah, the article seems a bit sensationalizing (shocking, I know). Nowhere does it mention that anyone was trying to lose weight?Each year obese men have a one in 12 chance of achieving five per cent weight loss, rising to one in 10 among women. But 53 per cent of people who had achieved this regained the weight within a year, and after five years, only 22 per cent had maintained their weight loss.
This part is more telling. Of those that DID lose weight, 22% maintained it for 5+ years. That's a lot better than the <.5% chance they are quoting.
Furthermore, they talk about losing 5% of weight? For a 200lb person that's only 10lbs. My weight can fluctuate more than that inside of a week. Again, no mention of whether these people were even trying to lose that weight. It could have just been slight shifts year to year. I'd like to see the stats for people who consciously were trying to lose weight and lost a more reasonable amount (say 10-20% or higher). I'm guessing it's a whole lot higher than 1 in 210.0 -
LiftAllThePizzas wrote: »
But what are the odds for people who spend all of their time and energy searching for excuses to fail?Reading the article, it looks like the study is only looking at the data from British health records. There's no indication that many of the people included in the study dataset even had been on a deliberate weight loss plan. The statistic is possibly skewed more heavily towards failure if they aren't evaluating for individual plans or commitment levels (self initiated vs. doctor recommended).
Unfortunately a lot of people will take that one piece of information to justify their own defeatist mindset and give themselves permission to fail
Yeah, the article seems a bit sensationalizing (shocking, I know). Nowhere does it mention that anyone was trying to lose weight?Each year obese men have a one in 12 chance of achieving five per cent weight loss, rising to one in 10 among women. But 53 per cent of people who had achieved this regained the weight within a year, and after five years, only 22 per cent had maintained their weight loss.
This part is more telling. Of those that DID lose weight, 22% maintained it for 5+ years. That's a lot better than the <.5% chance they are quoting.
Furthermore, they talk about losing 5% of weight? For a 200lb person that's only 10lbs. My weight can fluctuate more than that inside of a week. Again, no mention of whether these people were even trying to lose that weight. It could have just been slight shifts year to year. I'd like to see the stats for people who consciously were trying to lose weight and lost a more reasonable amount (say 10-20% or higher). I'm guessing it's a whole lot higher than 1 in 210.
Or throwing dollars at gimmicks? Taking unhealthy means to lose weight?
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6502programmer wrote: »Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.
I actually disagree with this. Quitting smoking is difficult, yes. No doubt about that. But, once you quit, you never have to touch it again. You have to find a way to live with food forever.
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6502programmer wrote: »Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.
I actually disagree with this. Quitting smoking is difficult, yes. No doubt about that. But, once you quit, you never have to touch it again. You have to find a way to live with food forever.
Here we go again.0 -
False dichotomy is false.6502programmer wrote: »Meh. I quit smoking my first attempt. This is cake compared to nicotine.
I actually disagree with this. Quitting smoking is difficult, yes. No doubt about that. But, once you quit, you never have to touch it again. You have to find a way to live with food forever.
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I've always been an overachiever in other areas of my life. Knowing the odds are stacked against me only makes me fight harder to overcome them!
I have overcome a hell of a lot in my life... in three years I went from being a broke, pregnant college student on welfare to a thriving single mom making enough to send my kid to private preschool and pay off my student loans, despite the fact that my caseworker basically flat out told me that the chances of me making it out of poverty were slim to none. Screw the odds! I make my own future. Knowing I'm beating the odds just pushes me more. I can do this. I will do this.
Thanks for the motivation!0 -
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Says it all really.
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The odds of winning the lottery is 1 in 13 billion, yet people still do it.0
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OP - just quit now while you are ahead....0
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jennifer_417 wrote: »I don't think of it I terms of "odds" or "chances." It's not the lottery where you buy a ticket and hope it's the winning one. When you make the right choices, the weight comes off, every time. When you keep making the right choices, it stays off.
Word. You make your own odds.
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There are a couple of people on here who have done it. Men and women. It can be done.0
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