Phase 1 - no sugars

katiadef
katiadef Posts: 17 Member
edited November 21 in Getting Started
After trying various 'easier' ways and failing horribly, i came across a blog on reducing one's daily sugar intake. I did the sugartest and came out totally shocked.
So today I started my phase 1, no sugars whatsoever: no sweets, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, no alcohol. Luckily I like veggies, schrimp, fish, chicken. I love to eat great salads and stir fries. So that is the easy part.
Now the difficult part, how to eat at work, in a restaurant, at a party and avoidibg the prohibited food. Usually you get lots of pasta, rice, potatoes and bread and only little vegetables. For work tomorow I prepared a lunchbox. Hope I won't forget it at 4 in the morning.
Have a good night ...
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  • Altrez74
    Altrez74 Posts: 72 Member
    That sounds like a good way to start! You can do it!
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    So you've tried several fad diets and failed, so you're starting another restrictive diet?

    Good luck to you, and hopefully you find something that works. Personally, I like using MFP to calculate my daily calorie goal, and eating the foods I enjoy while hitting that goal. It has worked out for me, and it's something I've been able to stick to for the past several years.
  • SconnieCat
    SconnieCat Posts: 770 Member
    I have no idea what diet you're following, but it sounds horribly restricting. Do you have a medical condition that would necessitate the cutting out of fruit, bread, pasta, etc.? Do you work those back in? How do you work those items back in?

    Also, while you're on this phase, what is your calorie intake? If your goal is to lose weight, the only equation you really need to remember (unless you have a medical condition) is CICO. You can cut out all of the bread, alcohol and fruit in the world, but at the end of the day if you're eating more calories than you are burning, you are going to gain weight.

    Good luck, OP.
  • ManiacalLaugh
    ManiacalLaugh Posts: 1,048 Member
    It's virtually impossible to eat so that you're cutting out all sugars. I hope you're not a fan of peas, carrots, or peppers - because all of those are fairly stocked with sugar.
  • dubird
    dubird Posts: 1,849 Member
    If this is what works for you, that's up to you. My honest opinion is that you're restricting yourself unnecessarily. I would suggest only cutting out things like cake, cookies and the like, and maybe cut back a little on breads. So much food has sugar in it, even veggies, that cutting it all out will be horribly restrictive. You may be better off cutting out only a few things, and keeping a close eye on your actual intake. Basically, start cutting your eating habits down to something that you'd be willing to sustain for the rest of your life instead of cutting out entire groups of foods that have stuff you like.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    Can you link to the blog with this "sugar test" on it?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I like how whole foods like fruit and potatoes are now the devil....don't ever change multi-billion dollar diet industry...never change...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    FYI OP - vegetables have carbs in them which equals sugar…so vegetables would violate your phase one of no sugar..

    Is there a reason that you are doing this? Do you have a medical condition???
  • Debmal77
    Debmal77 Posts: 4,770 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    I like how whole foods like fruit and potatoes are now the devil....don't ever change multi-billion dollar diet industry...never change...

    lol Yup.
  • bmchenry02
    bmchenry02 Posts: 233 Member
    What was the easier way?
    What happens after phase 1?
    How long is phase 1?
    And why the desire to cut sugar and not just eat healthier and watch the processed stuff?
    I like to ask questions, can you tell?
  • gaelicstorm26
    gaelicstorm26 Posts: 589 Member
    I do not understand how one eats NO sugar. What will you eat? Meat?

    I can understand wanting to restrict added sugars, but I don't see how what you are doing is sustainable in the long-term. Instead of cutting out all carbs (which you aren't doing because you're eating vegetables), why not just try to cut back on them?

    Focus on your calorie goal and meeting your nutrients. FWIW, I must watch my carb intake and tonight at dinner I had a cheeseburger on the grill (in a bun) and also a serving of chips. I had to weigh it out and log it but I'll be either at or under 100 g of carbohydrates for the day and I'll most definitely be under or at my calorie goal.

    If you want to add fruits back in but are worried about the sugar content, might I suggest fresh cherries and any sort of berry? Berries are an excellent fruit for those who either want to, or have to, watch their sugar intake. Instead of sliced bread, try a flatbread or a wrap. I save about 15g of carbs at lunch by switching to a thin flatbread/wrap instead of regular bread and it's just a good. There are many ways to be moderate about your carb intake while still enjoying your food. Today I even had chocolate!
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
    That doesn't sound like much fun!
  • myheartsabattleground
    myheartsabattleground Posts: 2,040 Member
    SO you're not gonna eat ANY food..
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    OP here is my standard advice, I think you would have a lot more success with this long term …


    1. Enter stats into MFP and set for x amount of weight loss.
    2. Eat to the number that MFP gives you.
    3. get a food scale and weigh all solid foods, and as many liquids as possible.
    4. log everything
    5. make sure that you are using correct MFP database entries
    6. realize that there are no bad foods and that while the majority of foods should come from nutrient dense sources, there is nothing wrong with having pizza, ice cream, cookies, etc, as long as ones micro and macro needs are met.
    7. macro setting are typically .85 grams of protein per pound of body weight; .45 grams of fat per pound of body weight; fill in rest with carbs.
    8. find a form of exercise that you like and do it < not necessary for weight loss, but is for overall health and body comp.

    I would also recommend reviewing the below sticky

    sidesteels guide:
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Can you link to the blog with this "sugar test" on it?

    something tells me everyone fails that test...
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    Can you link to the blog with this "sugar test" on it?

    something tells me everyone fails that test...

    Shush, you. ;)
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    katiadef wrote: »
    After trying various 'easier' ways and failing horribly, i came across a blog on reducing one's daily sugar intake. I did the sugartest and came out totally shocked.
    So today I started my phase 1, no sugars whatsoever: no sweets, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, no alcohol. Luckily I like veggies, schrimp, fish, chicken. I love to eat great salads and stir fries. So that is the easy part.
    Now the difficult part, how to eat at work, in a restaurant, at a party and avoidibg the prohibited food. Usually you get lots of pasta, rice, potatoes and bread and only little vegetables. For work tomorow I prepared a lunchbox. Hope I won't forget it at 4 in the morning.
    Have a good night ...

    Reducing sugars isn't very popular around here so it is difficult to find support. If you are eating low(er) carbohydrate consider trying the Low Carber Daily Forum. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group The people there are quite supportive of the LC choice, whether it is for a medical reason or just a personal choice.

    Meat and veggies are a good place to start. I find I can easily fill my plate with those items. Nuts are a great snack food and eggs are a great food to pack (hardboiled).

    Be aware that some people feel fatigued and headachey when they lower their sugars. If that happens to you, consider increasing sodium, potassium and magnesium for a while. Water too.

    Good luck!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited July 2015
    I find it hard to believe that anyone would endorse a zero sugar diet, which is virtually impossible. But yes, whatever floats your boat :)
  • dubird
    dubird Posts: 1,849 Member
    edited July 2015
    I'm not trying to diss her idea of lowering sugar intake. I don't think it's really necessicary, but if that works for someone, that's all that matters. What I'm saying is that what she's actually trying to do is unrealistic. You probably COULD eliminate all sugar from your diet, but I would think it would be miserable. Plus, you'd be missing a LOT of nutrients that your body needs. I think she would be better off setting her goals to a much more realistic idea of just limiting added sugar and maybe low-carb. It's a lot healither than what her stated goal is, and would be a lot easier to sustian long-term.



    Although, my gut is telling me this is a drive-by posting, and we'll never hear from the OP again. *shrugs*
  • katiadef
    katiadef Posts: 17 Member
    Can you link to the blog with this "sugar test" on it?

    It is unfortunately not in English
  • katiadef
    katiadef Posts: 17 Member
    nvsmomketo wrote: »
    katiadef wrote: »
    After trying various 'easier' ways and failing horribly, i came across a blog on reducing one's daily sugar intake. I did the sugartest and came out totally shocked.
    So today I started my phase 1, no sugars whatsoever: no sweets, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, no alcohol. Luckily I like veggies, schrimp, fish, chicken. I love to eat great salads and stir fries. So that is the easy part.
    Now the difficult part, how to eat at work, in a restaurant, at a party and avoidibg the prohibited food. Usually you get lots of pasta, rice, potatoes and bread and only little vegetables. For work tomorow I prepared a lunchbox. Hope I won't forget it at 4 in the morning.
    Have a good night ...

    Reducing sugars isn't very popular around here so it is difficult to find support. If you are eating low(er) carbohydrate consider trying the Low Carber Daily Forum. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group The people there are quite supportive of the LC choice, whether it is for a medical reason or just a personal choice.

    Meat and veggies are a good place to start. I find I can easily fill my plate with those items. Nuts are a great snack food and eggs are a great food to pack (hardboiled).

    Be aware that some people feel fatigued and headachey when they lower their sugars. If that happens to you, consider increasing sodium, potassium and magnesium for a while. Water too.

    Good luck!

    Thanks for your reply. Most others are depressibg and demotivating. Not at all what I expected from a community. It is nice to feel supported and to get tips. I really appreciate it.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    nvsmomketo wrote: »
    katiadef wrote: »
    After trying various 'easier' ways and failing horribly, i came across a blog on reducing one's daily sugar intake. I did the sugartest and came out totally shocked.
    So today I started my phase 1, no sugars whatsoever: no sweets, no fruit, no bread, no pasta, no alcohol. Luckily I like veggies, schrimp, fish, chicken. I love to eat great salads and stir fries. So that is the easy part.
    Now the difficult part, how to eat at work, in a restaurant, at a party and avoidibg the prohibited food. Usually you get lots of pasta, rice, potatoes and bread and only little vegetables. For work tomorow I prepared a lunchbox. Hope I won't forget it at 4 in the morning.
    Have a good night ...

    Reducing sugars isn't very popular around here so it is difficult to find support. If you are eating low(er) carbohydrate consider trying the Low Carber Daily Forum. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group The people there are quite supportive of the LC choice, whether it is for a medical reason or just a personal choice.

    Meat and veggies are a good place to start. I find I can easily fill my plate with those items. Nuts are a great snack food and eggs are a great food to pack (hardboiled).

    Be aware that some people feel fatigued and headachey when they lower their sugars. If that happens to you, consider increasing sodium, potassium and magnesium for a while. Water too.

    Good luck!

    my issue with this kind of stuff is, and she said it,...."no fruit" and the demonization of whole foods in general that seems to come with the low carb craze due to all carbs being lumped in together as the devil.

    I totally get cutting back on junk and I think most people do too...but it seem most low carbers fail to recognize that there are a lot of very nutritious and healthy foods that also happen to be carbs and that carbs aren't the devil. Yeah, fruit has some sugar...and lot of other kick *kitten* antioxidants and other micro-nutrients.
  • Neversettle78
    Neversettle78 Posts: 206 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    So you've tried several fad diets and failed, so you're starting another restrictive diet?

    Good luck to you, and hopefully you find something that works. Personally, I like using MFP to calculate my daily calorie goal, and eating the foods I enjoy while hitting that goal. It has worked out for me, and it's something I've been able to stick to for the past several years.

    I agree with this wholeheartedly. Stop the FADS!!!!!!!!! ffs....
  • fernandaBush
    fernandaBush Posts: 18 Member
    Salads and a kind of meat? Easy.
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  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    edited July 2015
    Vegetables have sugar in them, don't they?

    ETA: https://blissreturned.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/fruits-and-vegetable-list-of-low-and-high-sugar-fruit-and-vegetable/

    I don't see any vegetables that have no sugar.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »

    I totally get cutting back on junk and I think most people do too...but it seem most low carbers fail to recognize that there are a lot of very nutritious and healthy foods that also happen to be carbs and that carbs aren't the devil. Yeah, fruit has some sugar...and lot of other kick *kitten* antioxidants and other micro-nutrients.

    Not sure what your sample was but I find most low carbers are very familiar with carb contents and other nutrient properties - Atkins phase 1 is based on 20g of net carbs with 12-15g from a list of foundation vegetables - this is about a pound a day of veg.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »

    I totally get cutting back on junk and I think most people do too...but it seem most low carbers fail to recognize that there are a lot of very nutritious and healthy foods that also happen to be carbs and that carbs aren't the devil. Yeah, fruit has some sugar...and lot of other kick *kitten* antioxidants and other micro-nutrients.

    Not sure what your sample was but I find most low carbers are very familiar with carb contents and other nutrient properties - Atkins phase 1 is based on 20g of net carbs with 12-15g from a list of foundation vegetables - this is about a pound a day of veg.

    He read the OP?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited July 2015
    yarwell wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »

    I totally get cutting back on junk and I think most people do too...but it seem most low carbers fail to recognize that there are a lot of very nutritious and healthy foods that also happen to be carbs and that carbs aren't the devil. Yeah, fruit has some sugar...and lot of other kick *kitten* antioxidants and other micro-nutrients.

    Not sure what your sample was but I find most low carbers are very familiar with carb contents and other nutrient properties - Atkins phase 1 is based on 20g of net carbs with 12-15g from a list of foundation vegetables - this is about a pound a day of veg.

    I'm basing it on the way people discuss these things on these boards..."I'm addicted to carbs...so gotta low carb"...then when it gets discussed, it's just cookies and cakes and chips and whatnot...I've never hear of anyone "addicted" to black beans or going off the rails because they had an apple...or jonesing for some oats...so there are a ton of people trying to low carb around here who know about jack *kitten*...they lump all carbs together...i mean really...there are like a gazillion extremely ignorant threads on the matter.

    I'm also basing it on the people I see day in and day out at the gym who get on bored with some fad every couple of weeks...they don't actually know anything about nutrition...they just heard carbs were evil and the reason everyone is fat...so better cut carbs...
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