No carb diet

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  • gainesma
    gainesma Posts: 96 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Thank you for all of the replies!
    She wrote no carb on my new diet plan which says Mediterranean diet on it. She is actually part of a very large practice that is part of our local hospital and very well respected. I do think I'm going to call and ask for a new doctor as she makes me feel so uncomfortable. I'm going to see the dietitian in two weeks and hopefully that will help me get some tips on cooking and such. I also want to have my primary care doctor look at my blood work, because he takes the same medication I do and has done bloodwork on me for the last eight or nine months and I want him to see the blood sugar and insulin information.

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    Lol, states no carbs, but adds in fruit and vegetables. Not very knowledgeable in nutrition if stating NO CARBS.

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    ■■■Maybe she meant no carbs other than the one she has stated?■■■
  • enterdanger
    enterdanger Posts: 2,447 Member
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    Maybe the doctor was dyslexic and she meant NO CRAB...Do you have a shellfish allergy? lol
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    shell1005 wrote: »
    gainesma wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    gainesma wrote: »
    Prior to the late 50's everyone ate high fat...

    That's not correct. The percentage of diet that is fat has gone down, but overall caloric intake has gone up by an even bigger amount. We're, on average, eating about the same amount of fat as we were 50 years.

    The number that really stands out on a historical scale is the huge increase in carb calories.

    ■■■ No disagreement with me here. It's carbohydrates in excess that are making people fat. You can test it yourself. Eat 4k calories of fat a day you won't gain an ounce but you may lose a half pound at the end of a week. Then eat 4k calories a day in a ugar and carbohydrates and at the end of the week you will be pounds heavier. Insulin responds to carbohydrates & sugar. It doesn't respond at all to fat■■■
    For those reading this thread, you might find a low carb diet the most effective way to maintain a caloric deficit, but let's be super duper clear...it is the caloric deficit that causes the weight gain.

    +1
  • Seanb_us
    Seanb_us Posts: 322 Member
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    Find a different doctor. Never work with a doc you are not comfy with or whom you don't trust.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
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    OP just clarify with your doctor/nutritionist/weight loss doctor about NO or LOW carb.

    It is true that the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest way of eating ( Universities claim it as number two..the healthiest is the Cretan diet). There should be studies out there showing that.
    But sure enough they both have some carb. So or your misunderstood her, or she wrote that wrong.
    Because a Mediterranean diet has vegetables, legumes etc. So has carbs, only it is lower than other diets.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    psulemon wrote: »

    Maybe I am misreading the bold, but what?

    Potato is excluded from "5 a day" in the UK -

    http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/5ADAY/Pages/Whatcounts.aspx

    " Do potatoes count towards 5 A DAY?
    No. Potatoes are a starchy food and a great source of energy, fibre, B vitamins and potassium. "
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
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    I don't know why people on the internet tend to over-dramatize things. No need to find a different doctor. The plan looks sensible. All she needs to do is to ask her doctor to explain better. "No carbs" probably meant no starchy carbs or no things like candy bars and the like, and the term may have been (unsuccessfully) chosen to simplify things because potatoes, bread and candy bars is what most people associate with carbs, and instead of simplifying things it caused more confusion.

    OP to answer your question: ask your doctor to clarify and give examples and go from there.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,391 MFP Moderator
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    yarwell wrote: »
    psulemon wrote: »

    Maybe I am misreading the bold, but what?

    Potato is excluded from "5 a day" in the UK -

    http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/5ADAY/Pages/Whatcounts.aspx

    " Do potatoes count towards 5 A DAY?
    No. Potatoes are a starchy food and a great source of energy, fibre, B vitamins and potassium. "
    That makes sense why I haven't heard of it, it's a UK thing. It's slowly all coming together, lol
  • eryndon
    eryndon Posts: 4 Member
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    I have been doing a similar diet and would be happy to share recipes with you. For breakfast I usually have eggs w/ veggies, cottage cheese or plain greek yogurt (can't do the flavored ones too much sugar) w/ berries or a smoothie (berries, greek yogurt, chia seeds, almond butter & maybe some protein powder. Lunch usually is a salad with other veggies with some protein of some sort (fish or chicken) Dinner more protein and some kind of veggie grilled or steamed. One of my best investment is a veggie grill pan like this:
    http://www.amazon.com/Weber-6481-Stainless-Vegetable-Basket/dp/B0071V7WOS/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1437773996&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=veggie+gill+basket. Just throw a bunch of veggies in with a little olive oil & season, put on the grill for 15 min.
    I also cut up a bunch of a veggies 2x a week so I have easy access to them for snacks with hummus or a dip made out of greek yogurt. I also like to have the yogurt and berries for afternoon snack if my energy is really low.

    I really love pizza and miss it so much and just made a recipe with a cauliflower crust. Can't really tell it's cauliflower. So good, my whole family ate it! http://recipes.mercola.com/cauliflower-crust-pizza-recipe.aspx

    Let me know what kind of recipes your looking for or what your struggling with and I send my thoughts.

    Stats:
    start weight 136.5 lbs
    goal 118 lbs
    week 1-133.2
    week 2-133.9
    week 3-134.3
    week 4-130.7

  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
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  • Steve_ApexNC
    Steve_ApexNC Posts: 210 Member
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    I don't know why people on the internet tend to over-dramatize things. No need to find a different doctor.

    The op stated she did not think the doctor was listening to her. That is an excellent reason to seek a second opinion. Given what I have been through with family members in the last ten years...some critical and life threatening...one thing I have learned is that you must be comfortable with your doctor. The doctor may be fabulous, but if the relationship is strained or the communication isn't working a new doctor is a valid option.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
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    I don't know why people on the internet tend to over-dramatize things. No need to find a different doctor.

    The op stated she did not think the doctor was listening to her. That is an excellent reason to seek a second opinion. Given what I have been through with family members in the last ten years...some critical and life threatening...one thing I have learned is that you must be comfortable with your doctor. The doctor may be fabulous, but if the relationship is strained or the communication isn't working a new doctor is a valid option.

    +1 to this. Especially since there was a bit of a red flag raised when OP mentioned that there's a medication on there that may be linked to diabetes? Seems like something isn't being explained fully to the OP, or enough so that the OP is comfortable.

  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    gainesma wrote: »
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    I'm not hijacking or trolling whatsoever. I'm being asked questions l. You however appear to be stalking me and I'm now reporting you.

    LOL
  • micheledarley2012
    micheledarley2012 Posts: 24 Member
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    Wow. I am stunned and excited to read all of these responses!
    I am going to ask the practice for a different dr. I went food shopping today and "no carbs" made things challenging lol.

    However, I Think I mentioned that I am on a medication that can cause prediabetes, it also makes it extremely difficult to lose weight, and I managed to lose 8 1/2 pounds on the doctor scale. And I talked to the doctor I go to that prescribed that medication today. We are going to work out a plan where I am going to go off that medication, and the diabetic issues it should go away. I can handle a low-carb diet, but this no carb diet may prove challenging. You are all awesome for noticing the inconsistencie son the paperwork were she says no carbs but has carbs listed. You really helped me feel better about my situation and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate it.

  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
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    I don't know why people on the internet tend to over-dramatize things. No need to find a different doctor.

    The op stated she did not think the doctor was listening to her. That is an excellent reason to seek a second opinion. Given what I have been through with family members in the last ten years...some critical and life threatening...one thing I have learned is that you must be comfortable with your doctor. The doctor may be fabulous, but if the relationship is strained or the communication isn't working a new doctor is a valid option.

    I agree, get a second opinion OP.
  • happysquidmuffin
    happysquidmuffin Posts: 651 Member
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    FYI gainesma, that's a moderator. They're not stalking you. They're simply here to moderate the forums and make sure that threads stay on topic and don't get pulled off topic by others. You don't report a moderator. :P
  • rbiss
    rbiss Posts: 422 Member
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    My 2 cents is your diet is very aggressive and a poor idea for someone who is only pre-diabetic. Doctors have very little nutrition training, FYI. You can accomplish the same thing with a reasonable diet and loosing weight.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
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    gainesma wrote: »
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    also just because you answer questions about fa

    ■■■ Do you work for MFP or just like to harass new people learning how to join discussions here. You have insulted my grammar, called me hon and obese in other forum's and you need to quit stalking me. ■■■

    How about you start here.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10041081/welcome-to-the-myfitnesspal-community#latest
  • happysquidmuffin
    happysquidmuffin Posts: 651 Member
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    Wait, is he talking about ME? Yeah, I called him hon (short for honey - why is that even memorable? that's like calling someone dude, or bro, or dear, or "hey you") but I didn't call him obese. Does he seriously think I'm stalking him? Like, for real? Or did he kinda lump everyone who disagreed with him last night into one statement?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,526 Member
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    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    bluefish86 wrote: »
    yarwell wrote: »
    Yeah you definitely need to clarify with this doctor. A quick glance of your Mediterranean meal plan does in fact include carbs.. It seems like quite the contradiction

    Perhaps they were using carbs in the same way as my friend to mean pasta, bread, potato etc - she doesn't think in terms of macros but more food categories.

    This was my first thought.....

    I would hope doctors wouldn't use words in such misleading and inaccurate ways, but it does appear that's what's going on. I'd change doctors for that reason, likely--either the doctor is being muddled about it or assumes I'm kind of dumb, and both would bother me.

    Or, the doctor just wrote the wrong word. Everybody does that on occasion. None of us are perfect and always 100% precise...even at work. The typed sheet is pretty clear. Instead of assuming a lot of terrible things about the doctor and her attitude or skill perhaps the easiest thing to do is call her and ask.
    If it's a "weight loss" doctor, shouldn't one be concerned if they say "no carbs" but includes carbs in the diet anyway? How much credibility does that give to that weight loss doctor? Shouldn't a weight loss specialist be a pro at distinguishing what a carb is?

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