Who is MFP for?
jeff261159
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I have to ask this because, quite frankly, I dont know the answer. Something is botheriing me! I am wondering whether this site is for big people who want to be small, unfit people who want to be fit, or a mix of both. I am rather disturbed by some of the profile pictures some people have put on here as they are, quite honestly, pictures of near anorexic young woman / girls.
I strongly beleive that this site should be used as a tool to HELP acheive a healthy lifestyle through sensible eating and regular excercise. It is most useful to people who need the support of a network of friends, albeit virtual, and do not want, for whatever reason, the formal regular support from a group such as WW.
From a males point of view, and please dont take offence, a near skeletal frame on a pretty woman is not attractive. I underdstand that anorexia is an illness but I ask myself "is MFP an appropriate platform to encouragebeing so skinny".
Im sorry if this has upset anyone, it wasnt meant to, it was just meant to encourage some debate.
I strongly beleive that this site should be used as a tool to HELP acheive a healthy lifestyle through sensible eating and regular excercise. It is most useful to people who need the support of a network of friends, albeit virtual, and do not want, for whatever reason, the formal regular support from a group such as WW.
From a males point of view, and please dont take offence, a near skeletal frame on a pretty woman is not attractive. I underdstand that anorexia is an illness but I ask myself "is MFP an appropriate platform to encouragebeing so skinny".
Im sorry if this has upset anyone, it wasnt meant to, it was just meant to encourage some debate.
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Some of the "thin" young women may be recovering from and Eating Disorder and need the encouragement that MFP offers, not to mention the calorie counter helps to ensure they are eating enough, and not too little. I do agree that MFP is here to help people get fit and healthy, not just lose weight.0
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I understand completely where you are coming from. I am weighing in at 233 lbs and deisire to learn to jog for a healthy heart and get my weight down to 165 or whatever feels good for me and pleases my doctor. I saw people on here who weighed 110 lbs who are wanting to lose 10 or 5 lbs or ppl who weigh 125 who are dying to weight 115 and it pisses me off. Its not all about how little you can weigh but its about a healthier lifestyle. I guess I have to respect those who join only to lose a few lbs but it's just too much to see sometimes and can be discouraging that is why I opted out of adding any friends unless they are in my boat and have a lot to lose and want to be healthy... not just skin a bones.0
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MFP is for everyone. Those 'people' you are referring to may in fact be here to take that first step in recovery. To begin helping themselves. Success can be acheived when you are surrounded by encouraging, supportive, understanding people. In reality, they may not have environment and mfp can offer what they are missing.0
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I know some people with EDs that are using it as a tool to help get themselves healthy.Or as part of their recovery.I did not relize this site was intended for just one group of people,I thought it was for anyone.0
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I've seen a whole mixture of people on MFP, and on my friends list. The majority on my friends list are people that are in the overweight category of their BMI, and would like to lose weight, and get fitter, they tend to be trying to improve their diets through watching their nutrients, decreasing processed foods and learning to cook better, alongside aiming to complete things like the couch to 5K programme. I've also got at least one person on my list that doesn't need to lose weight, or want to lose weight, but is using MFP to hone their nutritional balance while improving muscle tone and fitness. I have to say I've not personally seen anyone aiming to lose more than is healthy, but I think I'd try and guide someone in the right direction if they were openly posting about wanting to lose "too much" weight (what too much is is subjective). I do know a lot of people post profile pictures that are not them, so maybe that gives a distorted view of the users?
EDIT: like those posters above, I've also seen a few recovering from eating disorders, or taking their first steps, and people trying to put ON weight using this site. It's now a diet site, it's a fitness site. Whether you want to improve your fitness, your nutrition, lose weight or gain weight or stay the same weight.0 -
I have had these same thoughts in the past. But, in a public forum it is hard to know who is here for legit/not legit reasons. Also, remember that profile/avatar pics are not always of the actual person. May be an old pic or a pic of what they want to look like. I have seen a few topics from a person that is already tiny and wants to lose 10 more pounds and I have to just close the thread and move on. I so badly sometimes want to say "what are you thinking" but I don't know where this person is in there life journey nor do I know what kind of shape they are actually in so I just move on.
The majority of people here are here for the health and very supportive as well as full of information. Like any public forum you have to learn to take from it what you can and leave the rest sometimes.0 -
I strongly beleive that this site should be used as a tool to HELP acheive a healthy lifestyle through sensible eating and regular excercise. It is most useful to people who need the support of a network of friends, albeit virtual, and do not want, for whatever reason, the formal regular support from a group such as WW.
This is what MFP is for. However, yes, there are some people who are on here who are very thin. MFP is also used by some to gain weight, as it allows you to work with the calorie counter to do so. It is not a place to encourage EDs, but healthy living. Hopefully those who are struggling can reach out to the community to get the proper feedback they need, and warmth to guide them to be healthy.0 -
I have to ask this because, quite frankly, I dont know the answer. Something is botheriing me! I am wondering whether this site is for big people who want to be small, unfit people who want to be fit, or a mix of both. I am rather disturbed by some of the profile pictures some people have put on here as they are, quite honestly, pictures of near anorexic young woman / girls.
I strongly beleive that this site should be used as a tool to HELP acheive a healthy lifestyle through sensible eating and regular excercise. It is most useful to people who need the support of a network of friends, albeit virtual, and do not want, for whatever reason, the formal regular support from a group such as WW.
From a males point of view, and please dont take offence, a near skeletal frame on a pretty woman is not attractive. I underdstand that anorexia is an illness but I ask myself "is MFP an appropriate platform to encouragebeing so skinny".
Im sorry if this has upset anyone, it wasnt meant to, it was just meant to encourage some debate.
MFP is for anyone that needs help & accountability in achieving their goals. Quite frankly it is also partially a dating site, or at least has those overtones. That was never Mike's intention but it has partially evolved into that. People tend to make close relationships on here and they grow into dating relationships sometimes. But overall it remains a support site to achive whatever your fitness goals may be.0 -
MFP is for everyone. Those 'people' you are referring to may in fact be here to take that first step in recovery. To begin helping themselves. Success can be acheived when you are surrounded by encouraging, supportive, understanding people. In reality, they may not have environment and mfp can offer what they are missing.
This, truely.0 -
Some very interesting points.
I view the site as a tool that all people should use to reach there own goals.
There are a few people on here with Eating Disorders and I think they should be to use the site to to gain weight or re take some control over there issues
I think a lot of people, and I have the guts to include myself, forget what the site is called.
Its no My skinny Pal
or My lose as much weight as i jolly well can pal
It my FITNESS PAL
FIT = Healthy !
Which means a healthy weight, a good balance between living and enjoying life,0 -
MFP is for everyone. Those 'people' you are referring to may in fact be here to take that first step in recovery. To begin helping themselves. Success can be acheived when you are surrounded by encouraging, supportive, understanding people. In reality, they may not have environment and mfp can offer what they are missing.
Thats a great point and im glad you made it.0 -
Its not that you are encouraging them to stay skinny! Maybe some of us are using it to stay fit or to lose weight the healthy way instead of an unhealthy way. Perhaps some of the "skinny girls" need help gaining or maintaining. You really don't know a members story unless you ask. So I do take a tad bit of offense but hey this is a public thread....I just say to you don't be so quick to judge just cos the pic you see of the person is a "skinny pic"0
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I have to admit that I've wondered this same thing. In the past week I have come across a couple of posts that were a little disturbing. It is my opinion that this site is here to encourage healthy eating/exercise habits which in turn encourages healthy weight loss for those of us who need it. I don't believe it is intended to encourage unhealthy goals.0
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Jeff,
This place is for everyone (read everyone) to come together without judgement. This post is an example (read perfect example) of someone for whom MFP is not for...
I am offended by your remarks, comments, and attitude. Your judemental comments are not welcomed here. If you can not live with that I suggest you go find a 'perfect' world website where all your expectaions of others can be realized.
Otherwise if you remain here (which I welcome you to do) I respectfully suggest that you keep your ideas about other peoples journeys to yourself.
Sincerely,
ZebraHead0 -
Unfortunately, society's ideal tells us that skinny = pretty/fit. It takes a lot of maturity (not always age related) to realize that fit and pretty comes in a lot of different packages. I hate that so many women can't accept that no matter what they do, they will never look exactly like the women in magazines. Our body structure, bone structure and genetics all combine to make each of us individually beautiful.
I know that many people don't use their own picture as an avatar. They find a picture of the body/body type they want to be and use that. Up until this weekend I had a picture of myself in my sports bra and shorts as my avatar. Not pretty, certainly far from fit, but ME. Realistically showing the world who I am and why I'm here. The picture I have now is also me, just proudly wearing a dress I couldn't zip a couple of months ago. Still not fit or thin, but closer than I've been in a long time.
I wish more people would love and accept who they are while working toward being a better them, than trying to look like someone else.
We are all here because we aspire to be better. I believe that most here truly do want to be healthier and fitter. I do believe we need to be better ME's, not better copies of someone else.0 -
Woops, double posted! I sure wish there was a delete post button!:flowerforyou:0
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There's many options when you sign up. I only know this because it was just a week ago when I did. It asks if you're trying to lose weight, maintain weight or even gain weight. I think there's a mixture of pretty much everyone on here. While most of us are here to lose weight, I have seen several profiles of people who have already lost their weight and are just here for maintaining weight support. I haven't ran into anyone trying to gain weight yet, but I'm sure they're here somewhere!
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I agree - it's pretty much for anyone who wants to track what they eat - or their exercise - in a healthy way. Many thin people are not necessarily healthy. Also, I've read many posts from people who are tracking their food for a variety of health-related purposes.
Not everyone's profile picture is a self-portrait, either. Some people use a "goal picture" to help inspire them to meet their goals. Remember, what you see on-line is not necessarily what you get.0 -
It's the internet...it's no different than facebook or life in general that matter, you interact with the people you want to interact with. The important thing to remember is that you make this place work for you. It's about support and advice (keeping in mind your doctor and trained professionals are still the people you should consult) you get ideas and support here. Cheers0
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Jeff,
This place is for everyone (read everyone) to come together without judgement. This post is an example (read perfect example) of someone for whom MFP is not for...
I am offended by your remarks, comments, and attitude. Your judemental comments are not welcomed here. If you can not live with that I suggest you go find a 'perfect' world website where all your expectaions of others can be realized.
Otherwise if you remain here (which I welcome you to do) I respectfully suggest that you keep your ideas about other peoples journeys to yourself.
Sincerely,
ZebraHead
This is why you are such an amazing friend
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its for everyone. Its useful for people trying to lose weight, gain weight, keep track of their nutrition, maintain weight, as a training diary.
its absolutely none of your business if you think someone looks too thin for your taste0 -
While I applaud those who have had eating disorders and are trying to improve their health etc there are plenty more with already too thin bodies aiming to lose another 15, 20 pounds. Very sad0
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Not everyone here is here to lose weight, if you notice the title of the site, "MY FITNESS PAL", it is for people that want to be HEALTHY...... the ones here that are suffering from ED's....are here for support, and to try and get and stay healthy.... its is a battle, and some are struggling more than others....
I hope you see that the near skeletal ones that are here, for the most part, are trying to recover, or are recovered....
there are plenty of pro ana sites out there for the ones that are not trying to be healthy, so I don't think there is an issue with that here....for the most part we are close friends with each other on here, and we DO NOT encourage each other to be "so skinny", we encourage them to be healthy, and we are there for each other when we fall.....
And for some, if this site were not available to us, then we would more than likely be on the pro-ana sites, spiraling down instead slowly becoming healthy.0 -
Seems to me the easy answer it's for anyone who is concerned about their nutrition, weight, and fitness - whether they want to lose, maintain, or gain.0
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I am wondering whether this site is for big people who want to be small, unfit people who want to be fit, or a mix of both.
Oh, crap. You mean once I reach my goal, I get kicked out?! It's like Menudo! :sad:
"Fitness" is about being healthy, whether it's something you're trying to attain, or something you trying to maintain. Are there folks here who care more about their appearance than their health? Absolutely. But it's those folks who need our support and encouragement even more.0 -
I am one of those 120somethings who would like to be 115. Although I have that as my ultimate goal, I am not really that set on reaching it. I have a food addiction that I'm trying to get under control. Let me ask everyone on here with an "overweight" problem, don't you wish you had MFP to make sure you maintained your healthy lifestyle while you were young?
MFP is for everyone, people who have ED's, people who want to be healthy, people who are already healthy and want to maintain their lifestyle, or just people who simply want to lose weight.
As for the people on here with anorexia type ED's, we should be happy that they are on here. Maybe they can take a look at other people's lifestyles and see what they are doing to themselves. We shouldn't condone them for having a problem, let's try to help them live a healthy lifestyle!0 -
Jeff,
This place is for everyone (read everyone) to come together without judgement. This post is an example (read perfect example) of someone for whom MFP is not for...
I am offended by your remarks, comments, and attitude. Your judemental comments are not welcomed here. If you can not live with that I suggest you go find a 'perfect' world website where all your expectaions of others can be realized.
Otherwise if you remain here (which I welcome you to do) I respectfully suggest that you keep your ideas about other peoples journeys to yourself.
Sincerely,
ZebraHead
You are awesome! 0 -
To the OP---Here is my thoughts on your thoughts. MFP is a free website at use for all walks of life, skinny, fat, lazy, anorexic or how every you want to deem us. In your opinion, a skin and bones women is unattractive, well, you are intitled to your opinion but maybe that person is using this site as a tool for support to gain weight and be happy with they way they look. Don't judge unless ye be judged. AND DON'T make rude statements for debate.
I am here to lose weight, some of my "virtual friends" are here to maintain their body, and others that are my "virtual friends" are here to gain weight via muscle and learn how to better watch what they eat via nutrition. So this site, being free and public is for every Tom, **** and Jane in the free world. If you don't like the pics that you see, you can always close your eyes, or just avoid those pics, which would be a valid solution. I am here to have support from some amazing people, give that support back hopefully ten fold, and to lose these extra lbs that I have packed on in this journey we call life.
If that is what you are here for, so be it. But everyone has the right to use this "Free" site however the see fit. Let these people seek the knowledge and power and support they need with out judging them based on looks or pics. That is all I have to say.0 -
I think he asked a great question. He was really just trying to get an answer to a question that was on his mind and if you noticed he did say he was not trying to offend anyone but just wanted to know was the site intended for one type or for all. I agree with most of the comments on here that its for everyone to become healthier and not to get as skinny as possible and most of you all were respectful with your response except for one person. I won't call out the name but if you don't like his question or the post remember you dont have to read or respond to it. This is a place to help and encourage and you really just defeated the whole purpose of the site. He had a question... exactly what the forum is for. I found some great answers on here so thanks for asking the question and thanks all for the resonses! This was very interesting to read0
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i was 129 and my goal was 119 and ive reached it and managed to maintain it for a while - while still logging.
Ive cut back on/stopped the logging now, but i dont want to just leave the site because to some people im not big enough to warrant being a member anymore. I enjoy the message boards and i enjoy keeping up to date with my MFP friends progresses0
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