Overweight Vegetarian! Yes it is possible.

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  • haleyjones7
    haleyjones7 Posts: 16 Member
    I too have had the same problem.
    I am a vegetarian and I found myself filling up on carbs and junk food.
    After I cut all of the junk food out of my diet and white carbs, I lost 10 pounds within two weeks.
    Try eating more vegetables, almonds, nuts, and fruits and less fill up carbs and dairy.
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Thanks guys! I really appreciate your advice and support. Nice to know I'm not alone.
  • robynmoosehead
    robynmoosehead Posts: 66 Member

    Potato gnocchi with basil pesto. I reckon I could pack twice my daily calories away in that alone! I think it's even vegan!

    I'd double check your pesto if I were you. If it's made with proper Italian parmesan then it's not even vegetarian!

    Most of the cheaper, more common brands are made with cheap Italian hard cheese and they're usually ok but seriously double check.
    PROPER PESTO IS NOT VEGETARIAN

    or just make your own. It's so quick and easy. I've got a few recipes kicking around somewhere and they're easy to make veggie.
  • kaileyfry
    kaileyfry Posts: 56 Member
    Do you eat allot of carbs?
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    kaileyfry wrote: »
    Do you eat allot of carbs?

    Yes way too many that is a big weakness of mine.
  • mikehardin62
    mikehardin62 Posts: 122 Member
    Hello i am Mike and i have been with MFP since June...doing Calorie King before that. I have lost a few pounds, but i have 15 more to go. Let me back up...i am down from 2670lbs to 195lbs. ..with a goal of 180lbs. ..please help!
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Hello i am Mike and i have been with MFP since June...doing Calorie King before that. I have lost a few pounds, but i have 15 more to go. Let me back up...i am down from 2670lbs to 195lbs. ..with a goal of 180lbs. ..please help!

    Congrats on ur progress so far! Are u a vegetarian?
  • high_carb_daisy
    high_carb_daisy Posts: 4 Member
    Hey Ashley,
    My problem is my sweet tooth too! Have been veggie for years and vegan for the past couple, and its so easy to put on the weight! Anyways I find dairy can hinder the weightloss (cheese,cream, butter) whats working for me anyways is a high carb/low fat diet. Loads of whole grains like oats, wholemeal pasta, couscous, brownrice with beans n veg, i dont limit at all. And for sweet fixes mostly dried fruit, prunes are good and dried apple slices. Of your looking for easy recipes I can advise some veg friendly websites :smile:
    Lg, Daisy
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Hey Ashley,
    My problem is my sweet tooth too! Have been veggie for years and vegan for the past couple, and its so easy to put on the weight! Anyways I find dairy can hinder the weightloss (cheese,cream, butter) whats working for me anyways is a high carb/low fat diet. Loads of whole grains like oats, wholemeal pasta, couscous, brownrice with beans n veg, i dont limit at all. And for sweet fixes mostly dried fruit, prunes are good and dried apple slices. Of your looking for easy recipes I can advise some veg friendly websites :smile:
    Lg, Daisy

    Thanks, I love dried apples. Good idea!
  • tiffpileg
    tiffpileg Posts: 3 Member
    Go vegan girl! It is a lifesavor to your health. Trust me, the pounds will melt off
  • ffbrown25
    ffbrown25 Posts: 110 Member
    edited August 2015
    Lol. Yeah, that's the goal. I'm looking for more specific foods that vegetarians can eat and still be full and get the proper nutrients without going over on calories.

    More veggies and less dairy, pastas and breads. It all comes down to CICO--calories in, calories out, meaning that theoretically it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you burn more. But when I meet vegetarians who are overweight, they are almost always overdoing the breads, the dairy, the pastas. Veggies will fill you up! Make giant salads with fruit and beans for lunch, eat eggs for breakfast, eat more veggies for dinner. Buy a good protein powder. You'll get it! ;)
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Thanks ladies. :smile:
  • rwhyte12
    rwhyte12 Posts: 204 Member
    Hi. I'm not vegetarian but I was until recently just getting more and more overweight while doing exercise and eating 1200 calories a day without eating exercise calories back. I found that it is not the calories in and calories out but the composition of what I eat.

    I find that 100 grams of carbs or less is all I can eat. 50-60 grams of fat (mostly olive oil) makes me full. I eat protein at 80 to 100 grams, really limitless. Then, I just only eat sugar from fruit in an incidental way.

    So I went from just having a bad metabolism to having one that is burning through weight. I'm 21 pounds down in five weeks. It's the same level of exercise but I eat between 1200 and 1500 calories. I am full all day. For snacking, I have whey protein once or twice a day and I also eat a mixture of seeds (about four tablepoons) that is filling.

    At 100 grams of protein, I can get two slices of bread and then whatever is in veggies and fruits.

    So I think composition is the key. Hope that helps.
    Good luck.
  • JoeyFrappuccino
    JoeyFrappuccino Posts: 88 Member
    rwhyte12 wrote: »
    Hi. I'm not vegetarian but I was until recently just getting more and more overweight while doing exercise and eating 1200 calories a day without eating exercise calories back. I found that it is not the calories in and calories out but the composition of what I eat.

    I find that 100 grams of carbs or less is all I can eat. 50-60 grams of fat (mostly olive oil) makes me full. I eat protein at 80 to 100 grams, really limitless. Then, I just only eat sugar from fruit in an incidental way.

    So I went from just having a bad metabolism to having one that is burning through weight. I'm 21 pounds down in five weeks. It's the same level of exercise but I eat between 1200 and 1500 calories. I am full all day. For snacking, I have whey protein once or twice a day and I also eat a mixture of seeds (about four tablepoons) that is filling.

    At 100 grams of protein, I can get two slices of bread and then whatever is in veggies and fruits.

    So I think composition is the key. Hope that helps.
    Good luck.

    Weight loss is calories in < calories out. It's not "bad metabolism" or "composition". If you're eating 1500 calories and losing weight, then you were eating more than 1200 calories while you were gaining weight.
  • rwhyte12
    rwhyte12 Posts: 204 Member
    rwhyte12 wrote: »
    Hi. I'm not vegetarian but I was until recently just getting more and more overweight while doing exercise and eating 1200 calories a day without eating exercise calories back. I found that it is not the calories in and calories out but the composition of what I eat.

    I find that 100 grams of carbs or less is all I can eat. 50-60 grams of fat (mostly olive oil) makes me full. I eat protein at 80 to 100 grams, really limitless. Then, I just only eat sugar from fruit in an incidental way.

    So I went from just having a bad metabolism to having one that is burning through weight. I'm 21 pounds down in five weeks. It's the same level of exercise but I eat between 1200 and 1500 calories. I am full all day. For snacking, I have whey protein once or twice a day and I also eat a mixture of seeds (about four tablepoons) that is filling.

    At 100 grams of protein, I can get two slices of bread and then whatever is in veggies and fruits.

    So I think composition is the key. Hope that helps.
    Good luck.

    Weight loss is calories in < calories out. It's not "bad metabolism" or "composition". If you're eating 1500 calories and losing weight, then you were eating more than 1200 calories while you were gaining weight.

    Hi. I speak for myself when I put anything down. So prior to changing the composition of what I was eating, I was gaining at 1200 calories with exercise. I felt doomed. It took a bit of changing around the composition but it's awesome that the weight is now coming down. That's why I passed this on. It could be the thing that is needed to help someone else with weightloss.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,118 Member
    I've been vegetarian (ovo-lacto) since 1974 - before a lot of you were even born ;) . And I've been overweight for most of that time (highest BMI around 32, now down to 25.1).

    One of my main strategies for getting calories down while keeping nutrients high has been to eliminate pointless carbs. I'm not on a low-carb diet, but there are a lot of carb-intensive things that don't IMO contribute enough nutrition to be worth the calories.

    I'm talking about breads, pasta, rice, that sort of thing - even whole grain types. (Please note: I do know these do have nutritional value! It's just that other things do more for nutrition & satiety for the same calories.) Instead of a sandwich, I eat what I would've put in the sandwich. Same deal with pasta - eat the topping.

    I do get quite a bit of my protein from milk products, especially greek yogurt, which I eat virtually every day. Other protein staples are legumes (beans, peas, lentils, peanuts (especially peanut butter)), nuts (reasonable portions), quinoa, and eggs. I try not to overdose on soy (reasons too complicated to go into here), but do eat edamame (frozen or dry roasted), tempeh, and miso a few times a week.

    I find protein and fat satiating, so try hard to get adequate protein, and to eat some healthy fat with (nuts, avocado, olive oil . . . ) with each meal. And of course I eat *lots* of non-starchy veggies.
  • JoeyFrappuccino
    JoeyFrappuccino Posts: 88 Member
    rwhyte12 wrote: »
    rwhyte12 wrote: »
    Hi. I'm not vegetarian but I was until recently just getting more and more overweight while doing exercise and eating 1200 calories a day without eating exercise calories back. I found that it is not the calories in and calories out but the composition of what I eat.

    I find that 100 grams of carbs or less is all I can eat. 50-60 grams of fat (mostly olive oil) makes me full. I eat protein at 80 to 100 grams, really limitless. Then, I just only eat sugar from fruit in an incidental way.

    So I went from just having a bad metabolism to having one that is burning through weight. I'm 21 pounds down in five weeks. It's the same level of exercise but I eat between 1200 and 1500 calories. I am full all day. For snacking, I have whey protein once or twice a day and I also eat a mixture of seeds (about four tablepoons) that is filling.

    At 100 grams of protein, I can get two slices of bread and then whatever is in veggies and fruits.

    So I think composition is the key. Hope that helps.
    Good luck.

    Weight loss is calories in < calories out. It's not "bad metabolism" or "composition". If you're eating 1500 calories and losing weight, then you were eating more than 1200 calories while you were gaining weight.

    Hi. I speak for myself when I put anything down. So prior to changing the composition of what I was eating, I was gaining at 1200 calories with exercise. I felt doomed. It took a bit of changing around the composition but it's awesome that the weight is now coming down. That's why I passed this on. It could be the thing that is needed to help someone else with weightloss.

    Hello. I'm happy for your success, and I believe that you've found something that worked for you, but if you're losing weight eating 1500 calories from protein and fat, it is simply impossible that you would not have lost even more weight eating 1200 calories from any source, even pure sugar. Many people find weight loss/maintenance easier with a diet heavier in fats and proteins than in carbs, but that's only because they find those nutrients more satiating and therefore consume fewer calories. I agree that it can be helpful advice, but the claim that eating more calories causes more weight loss only contributes to the misinformation and confusion that many people face when attempting to lose weight. If eating 1500 calories caused you to lose more weight than eating 1200, why not eat 1800? 2100?
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Thank you for the comment about composition and metabolism. There is a lot more to nutrition and not only weightloss but FAT loss than just calories in and calories out. I am not going to be full and have proper nutrients to fuel my metabolism if I just eat a few candy bars a day, even if I burn those calories off. I really appreciate your comment.
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    Instead of a sandwich, I eat what I would've put in the sandwich. Same deal with pasta - eat the topping.

    I find protein and fat satiating, so try hard to get adequate protein, and to eat some healthy fat with (nuts, avocado, olive oil . . . ) with each meal. And of course I eat *lots* of non-starchy veggies.

    Thanks for the advice about leaving the bread off sandwiches and avoiding starchy vegetables. Good ideas!
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
    You know what really gets me at parties... They know I'm a vegetarian, or ask... And then get cheese pizza. Like... Where's mah veggies?!?!?!? Where's my coveted mushyrooms and onions :'( I like toppings too :(

    Or at family gatherings, all I ask is if there will be anything vegetarian, because if not, I can eat before or on the way(I'm not fussy, it's my lifestyle, not theirs, so if they don't want to get something, it's totally fine)... SO they say say they will get me salad. I will die on just salad. I will drink the entire dressing bottle just to be full. I WILL EAT ALL THE DINNER ROLLS.
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
    By the way, check out Pinterest. I LOVE zucchini noodles or spaghetti squash. I have a HUGE herb garden on our deck, and so I make all my own sauces. I love me some pesto, even though its usually a bit fatty. The spaghetti squash makes up for it. There are also VERY low calorie soy noodles(I think they're soy) in the organic/vegetarian section at my grocery stores. I can't remember what they're called, but they come in a bag of liquid and "noodles." I haven't tried them yet.
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
    moodyfam9 wrote: »
    Look what you've started Ashley. For me I confess that I love meat. After calorie counting I decided I didn't love meat for a while. After actually reviewing my calorie counting with more interest I found that many meats weren't the problem. A harmless peanut butter sandwich almost killed my day! Calories in vs. Calories out along with exercise seem obvious. To answer your question about specific foods . . . I often eat the same foods and just change spices. I made a Greek salad the other day with homemade dressing. Even the kids went back for seconds!

    Keep posting. You'll find more support when asking. There will always be misunderstandings when reading rather than talking. It's easy to misunderstand without hearing tone or reading body language.

    So true. Greek salad is delicious! Wish I could have been there. And I know what you mean with the peanut butter. I used to eat it straight out of the jar. Not anymore! :(

    Be careful with greek dressings. A lot of them contain sardines. I can't have it at restaurants unless the servers double check the ingredients. It usually ends with me not having greek dressing, but I do put italian on it. Try cottage cheese instead of dressing, too! Also, my go to dinner at work is this:
    one of those half pocket whole wheat pita things
    3-4 TBSP of humus
    a little of chopped onion
    a little bit of feta, you don't need a lot
    chopped tomato,
    spinach leaves
    about 3 falafal balls. Kroger has pre-packaged ones, but they are out a lot, so sometimes I will bake my own while cursing the jerks that bought all my falafel balls, or I will use a patty of the Morningstar Meditarranean Chickpea stuff. It's not as good, but it will do.
  • Kimegatron
    Kimegatron Posts: 772 Member
    I'm a very overweight vegetarian. Just because I love animals. Not because I don't love cookies, ice cream, and other sweets that don't contain meat. I think if I could go vegan, I'd be a rail, but I love cheese. I get a lot of the shocked "Omg, YOU'RE vegetarian?????" comments and gape mouthed faces when I tell people. I think the stereotypical image of a vegetarian is healthier and thinner than I am.

    It isn't necessarily easier for vegans to be thin -- we still have access to all kinds of sweet and savory foods that are easy to consume in excess.

    You're 100% right...but for me if I committed to being vegan I would have to give up, for example, ice cream. They do make vegan ice cream, but it's freaking expensive, so that would deter me. I would have to give up, another example, pizza. Since I hate to cook I wouldn't make it myself...lol. And being unable to pick up the phone and order it from any number of places would cut that out of my diet. I know there's soy cheese, but most pizza places don't offer it. That's all I was saying.....personally for ME, I hate to cook and bake and I'm too broke to buy tons of specialty ready made stuff...so it would definitely help ME.

    That sucks, we have vegan pizza options here! And cauliflower crust isn't TOO hard. Check your neighborhood for artisan pizza places, a lot more of them may be around than you think!
  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Man, I know what you mean about the cheese pizzas and salads. And I did not know that about Greek dressing. That's a big surprise to me.
  • vadimknobel
    vadimknobel Posts: 165 Member
    I find eating high protein food like yogurt, tofu, eggs, quinoa, whey protein mix, lentils, beans helps with satiety.
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  • AshleyCMoody
    AshleyCMoody Posts: 144 Member
    Yes I agree. I need to incorporate more protein for sure.
  • breathebelievejen
    breathebelievejen Posts: 83 Member
    edited August 2015
    I was vegan for about 6 years, vegetarian for a few after and I'm now a pescetarian. Things I found helpful to keep my calories down without compromising my sanity/ enjoyment of food:
    - write a list of your favourite (or tolerable) veggies and use these as the bulk and basis of your meals. For example, I eat a crap load of broccoli, cauliflower carrots, peas, sweetcorn and chick peas. I can eat a plate of these with minimal seasoning but I pick out a few ways to vary the flavour (gravy, garlic puree, grated cheese..) so that I can eat them several times a week without getting bored. I also batch cook them and leave them portioned out so I can just stick them in the microwave instead of having to steam them individually each day . If you get bored more easily you might want to look up recipes on pinterest etc for inspiration
    - pretty much same goes with protein sources. I boil eggs for the week or I make them scrambled in the microwave for the sake of saving time (takes only a few minutes). I slow cook Quorn fillets or bake Linda McCartney sausages or tesco meat free burgers (both the highest in protein v calories I can find within my budget in the uk) in batches ready to add to lunch and dinner options
    - get a plan together of things you're happy to eat regularly that you enjoy but still fit your calorie or macro goals. This might mean finding alternative lower cal ways to make your favourite go-to meals (eg. Slim pasta 8cal/100g then you can go all out on the sauce) Almost like your own little restaurant menu.. For example, I make overnight oats a lot for breakfast (soak muesli overnight in your fave milk and add a sliced banana or grated apple in the morning), veggies for lunch or dinner as I said earlier and then I have the freedom of having a portion of whatever I fancy for the other meal.
    - to summarise.. a few meal ideas that can be low-cal (use semi skim milk, eat recommended portion sizes etc etc). Breakfast: overnight oats, scrambled egg on toast, porridge, cereal + fruit
    Lunch/ dinner: steamed veggies, veggie chilli, veggie pita pizza, soup, stew, stir fry, veggie sauce + pasta, rice + veg, Shepherds pie/casseroles..
    Dessert: sugar free jelly, fruit and yoghurt (Greek and sky high protein are my faves atm), dates + raw nuts..

    Hope some of that helped, I can't think of all the things I eat regularly off the top of my head but could add more when I get home and can look at my menu plans. oh, also I found the biggest thing in cutting calories for me was changing my food rituals. For me that means not eating in front of the TV, eating at a table and not doing anything else whilst I eat, also eating more slowly and mindfully and shifting my focus from calories to nutrients. As somebody else mentioned it's often emotions that come into play with overeating. All the best! :)
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    I don't know how much I subscribe to the idea that your macros significantly, though indirectly, affect your weight, but vegetarian diets do seem to trend more towards high-carb than high-protein or -fat. And the large majority of vegetarians and particularly vegans I've known have been overweight or obese. I think the diet has maintained its association with health-freaks and continues to appeal to people looking to be healthier, and some probably think that as long as they're not eating meat, they'll be healthy (and not overweight).

    All the vegans I met at yoga centers were normal - low normal weights. They focused on vegetables, legumes, and nuts, rather than just not-animal products.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    I don't know how much I subscribe to the idea that your macros significantly, though indirectly, affect your weight, but vegetarian diets do seem to trend more towards high-carb than high-protein or -fat. And the large majority of vegetarians and particularly vegans I've known have been overweight or obese. I think the diet has maintained its association with health-freaks and continues to appeal to people looking to be healthier, and some probably think that as long as they're not eating meat, they'll be healthy (and not overweight).


    So wrong Joey.... yesterday I netted 130 grams of carbs and my proteins and fats were on point. I chose this way for moral reasons.

    If slaughter houses had glass walls you would chose this way too.

    I am plant based that eats dairy. Occasional fish, very rarely I may have meat, only from a very specific local source in my area.

    Not all of us are obese or overweight. Judgey mcjudgersonpants

    Well great, I'm glad you found an agreeable amount of carbs, but what I said had nothing to do with you specifically. I was saying what I had found to be typical in my own experiences, and never tried to make it seem like anything but that. So not only am I not wrong, I conceded in a later post here that some studies showed the opposite of what I had seen. I've known many people who've tried going vegan for a few weeks to lose weight, more people than I've known to adopt it for ethical reasons. Again, this was not a personal attack on you.

    I don't like doing the whole pious vegan thing, but I actually am vegan for moral reasons, and if slaughterhouses had glass walls you wouldn't eat dairy. As someone who is both vegan and a normal weight I understand that it's possible. I also understand that most plants are higher in carbs than in fats or protein. Nothing I said was judgmental, so it's unfortunate that you took my post as an attack rather than the opinion it was presented as.

    By the way, my post was about vegetarians and vegans, so if you eat fish and meat (apparently fish are not animals?) none of this would apply to you anyway.

    Did you mean "if dairy farms had glass walls you wouldn't eat dairy"? I'd agree with you if you meant conventional dairy, but we had dairy goats when I was growing up and I have no qualms about consuming dairy from small family farms where the animals are well treated.