Study proves protein isn't filling
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Here are a few studies which show protein is more satiating than carbs or fats. You have to realize that highly processed foods like whey protein powder are not as satiating as something like eggs or meat, which is what your study suggests. The study you posted can't be extrapolated to all protein sources.
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/13/1/97
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20847729/
Maybe its the fat in those products that make you full. Meat and eggs are more than just protein bro
No, it still looks like the protein if this is anything to go by:
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/41.full
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If protein isn't protein does that mean we can end the sugar is sugar arguments now?0
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
Tell that to my stomach.
Your summarization skills are sorely lacking.
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Who said protein wasn't protein?AlabasterVerve wrote: »If protein isn't protein does that mean we can end the sugar is sugar arguments now?
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OUCH...so embarrassing...lolBronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
The study involves something called "low-dose whey protein-enriched and sucrose-enriched water beverages"...lol
Please, let's not pretend this absurd conclusion would actually apply to real food.
Here's my study...real food protein was filling, and I lost 100 pounds and have maintained weight for 3 years.
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Meat sits like a rock in my stomach. It's more than filling. It's...ugck. Heavy.
I prefer fiber-rich foods. Just as filling, but without the heaviness.
I don't use the powders.0 -
Study: Protein water and sugar water are not satiating for 60 obese women.
OP: Study proves protein isn't filling.
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doesn't this also demonstrate that overweight/obese women can't control what they eat, even when given a beverage that has previously been demonstrated to increase fullness?0
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
Isnt the study just concerned with low dosage protein enhaced water? The beverages were 2 (178 kJ) and 4% (348 kJ) protein-enriched water. You could have inccluded that in the title. It doesnt prove that protein in and of itself cant be filling. Not sure you think what you are proving.0 -
I feel full for a few hours when I drink 8 oz of Muscle Milk and it only has 20g of protein. I feel very full after I eat 3-4 oz of any meat which usually has 20+g. Everyone is different though0
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...looking forward to the confirmation studies....0
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Seeing where this discussion is going, I'm just going to sit over here for a while.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »It's almost like there haven't been dozens of posts here relating to the idea that protein shakes are not necessarily satiating and could end up spurring overeating as compared to getting protein from solid food.
Wrong thread, m8.0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
Proves is the wrong word when speaking about science0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
Proves is the wrong word when speaking about science
No, that's kinda what science does, but one study isn't proving a fact. It's noting a trend or showing a theory and indicates that more studies would be good. You need multiple studies with proper control groups, done by different people and different situations to be on the path to proving something, but part of science is using facts to prove theories.0 -
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »If protein isn't protein does that mean we can end the sugar is sugar arguments now?
Your baiting skills need work0 -
AlabasterVerve wrote: »If protein isn't protein does that mean we can end the sugar is sugar arguments now?
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »Here are a few studies which show protein is more satiating than carbs or fats. You have to realize that highly processed foods like whey protein powder are not as satiating as something like eggs or meat, which is what your study suggests. The study you posted can't be extrapolated to all protein sources.
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/87/5/1558S.long
http://www.nutritionj.com/content/13/1/97
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20847729/
Maybe its the fat in those products that make you full. Meat and eggs are more than just protein bro
So you didn't read the studies I posted is what you're saying?0 -
:flowerforyou:Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Flower for my hero...0 -
A drink made from straight protein powder doesn't fill me up either. It's not a complete meal and lacks calories, carbs, fiber and fat.
For a quick protein powder-based snack, I'll start with protein powder and liquid and add coconut oil, and for a slightly heartier snack, some fruit as well.
For my breakfast smoothie, in addition to protein powder, I add fat from an egg and peanut butter, fiber from chia and flax seeds, and carbs from bananas and am full til lunch.0 -
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Listen here... I have two liberal arts degrees, please show me a little respect
You didn't learn your mistake from the first one? Mine at least prepared me for the breadline, which provided sustenance as I switched to science.0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
Proves is the wrong word when speaking about science
No, that's kinda what science does, but one study isn't proving a fact. It's noting a trend or showing a theory and indicates that more studies would be good. You need multiple studies with proper control groups, done by different people and different situations to be on the path to proving something, but part of science is using facts to prove theories.
No. Science can not "prove" anything. It is only able to disprove or to offer support for a theory. The word prove indicates that a solution has been found (in a closed sense), this does not apply to science. Even if there is support for a theory,meaning the findings are consistent with a theory, the theory can always be disproved with a future measurement.
See Popper problem of induction0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Listen here... I have two liberal arts degrees, please show me a little respect
You didn't learn your mistake from the first one? Mine at least prepared me for the breadline, which provided sustenance as I switched to science.
^Ah, so you ask for more bread, not more degrees? So many people in humanities doing it wrong... (my brother has a masters in french literature.)0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Listen here... I have two liberal arts degrees, please show me a little respect
Tbh i think you are getting more than the respect you deserve, people will start asking for it back.0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Listen here... I have two liberal arts degrees, please show me a little respect
Good for you. Getting any degree is hard, much less two. Not meaning that sarcastically, either, I've got two degrees and it was hella hard for some of the classes!
However, you're still wrong. One study doesn't prove anything. Especially such a broad statement like protein isn't filling. That's not even what the study says. That study is about protein BEVERAGES, which I think most of us agree it won't make you feel full because most liquids wouldn't make you feel full for long. If your post had been about protein powders or additives to liquids not making you feel full, I don't think this discussion would've devolved the way it has.0 -
Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »Step right up, boys and girls! Feast your eyes on an actual life lesson!
Behold the glory of a thread that proves - yes, proves beyond a doubt - that a zero level in science literacy leads to tragedies like the original post.
Thank you. I'll be here all morning.
Listen here... I have two liberal arts degrees, please show me a little respect
You didn't learn your mistake from the first one? Mine at least prepared me for the breadline, which provided sustenance as I switched to science.
^Ah, so you ask for more bread, not more degrees? So many people in humanities doing it wrong... (my brother has a masters in french literature.)
I blame my elective physics professor - dual PhDs in physics & philosophy and would remark that he "used the income from his physics grants to fund his philosophical pursuits of feeling superior to his fellow (and lesser) man".0
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