Extreme Low Carb Diet
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Good luck. Hopefully you don't feel hungry like last time.gettingfitformywedding wrote: »Thanks to everyone who posted their opinion and advice! I read through everyone's response and have decided to follow the low carb for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. I'm on day two and feel lots of energy and don't feel hungry! As I had said before, I did low cal and did well on it, but am wanting to see how my body responds to something different. Sometimes it's good to shake things up a bit. Every person responds differently to different things. I will post my 15 day results.
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gettingfitformywedding wrote: »Thanks to everyone who posted their opinion and advice! I read through everyone's response and have decided to follow the low carb for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. I'm on day two and feel lots of energy and don't feel hungry! As I had said before, I did low cal and did well on it, but am wanting to see how my body responds to something different. Sometimes it's good to shake things up a bit. Every person responds differently to different things. I will post my 15 day results.
You'll probably want to give yourself 3-4 weeks to become adapted, especially if you choose to go very low carb. Good luck!0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
LCHF is one of many WOE that will help improve health and wellness. Any WOE that a person can sustain that will help them lose weight and become more fit will inherently improve your health markers.
For the OP, only time will tell if its beneficial and sustainable. For some people it works very well and for some (me) its a huge failure.
Following to see how the OP does in 15 or 30 days. Good luck OP.0 -
callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
Please substantiate the claim that "most" use LCHF to improve health. Are you saying the majority of LCHF adherents or using a different definition or is this yet another baseless claim aka the usual0 -
gettingfitformywedding wrote: »Thanks to everyone who posted their opinion and advice! I read through everyone's response and have decided to follow the low carb for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. I'm on day two and feel lots of energy and don't feel hungry! As I had said before, I did low cal and did well on it, but am wanting to see how my body responds to something different. Sometimes it's good to shake things up a bit. Every person responds differently to different things. I will post my 15 day results.
You'll probably want to give yourself 3-4 weeks to become adapted, especially if you choose to go very low carb. Good luck!
Agreed. Many people experience the "keto flu" (from what I've read) although others have no issues. So, for a few days to a week or so, some people have less energy, then their body adapts and then they have increased energy levels again. Make sure you give yourself enough time to get through that if it happens and then see. I've also read that some people don't bounce back, and they usually decide low carb isn't for them due to the lower energy levels.
Good luck in your experiment.0 -
Just posted this in another thread where the low carb posse was spouting their usual nonsense...
You don't necessarily have to go "low carb" to be healthy and lose weight, but a lot of highly processed foods are very carb/sugar laden and high calorie. With a diet rich in these processed foods, it is easy for a person to overconsume beyond their activity level. That is one of the reasons why following macro targets and knowing your daily maintenance calories is so important. Avoiding rice, potatoes, bread, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc. is not the answer... but limiting highly processed foods and not overindulging in general will help.
Here is the same type of meaningless correlation that just about every low carb fanatic uses to justify their recent turn toward better health:
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Just posted this in another thread where the low carb posse was spouting their usual nonsense...
You don't necessarily have to go "low carb" to be healthy and lose weight, but a lot of highly processed foods are very carb/sugar laden and high calorie. With a diet rich in these processed foods, it is easy for a person to overconsume beyond their activity level. That is one of the reasons why following macro targets and knowing your daily maintenance calories is so important. Avoiding rice, potatoes, bread, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc. is not the answer... but limiting highly processed foods and not overindulging in general will help.
Here is the same type of meaningless correlation that just about every low carb fanatic uses to justify their recent turn toward better health:
Who avoids veggies??
And why is it bad or wrong to avoid grains (whole or refined)!0 -
gettingfitformywedding wrote: »Thanks to everyone who posted their opinion and advice! I read through everyone's response and have decided to follow the low carb for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. I'm on day two and feel lots of energy and don't feel hungry! As I had said before, I did low cal and did well on it, but am wanting to see how my body responds to something different. Sometimes it's good to shake things up a bit. Every person responds differently to different things. I will post my 15 day results.
Two weeks isn't very long. Many who go lery low carb feel poorly the first few weeks because their electrolytes are out of balance. A vLC diet will cause you to need about 5000mg of sodium per day, so you will need to double your salt intake (most likely). You may need to up potassium and magnesium too.
I agree with @2Poufs. Consider giving it 4 weeks.
Good luck!callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
LCHF is one of many WOE that will help improve health and wellness. Any WOE that a person can sustain that will help them lose weight and become more fit will inherently improve your health markers.
For the OP, only time will tell if its beneficial and sustainable. For some people it works very well and for some (me) its a huge failure.
Following to see how the OP does in 15 or 30 days. Good luck OP.
I agree. It's one of many WOEs. It's just a matter of finding the one best suited for your personal health issues, and that you find satisfactory.callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
Please substantiate the claim that "most" use LCHF to improve health. Are you saying the majority of LCHF adherents or using a different definition or is this yet another baseless claim aka the usual
Apologies. I should have said that most of the people who use a LCHF diet over the long term, and who frequent the various MFP groups (like Low Carber Daily), state that they use this diet to improve their health. They eat at a deficit for weight loss.
And I really don't think my usual claims are baseless.... My guess is that you write that because you generally disagree with my opinion; that alone does not mean that I wrong.0 -
gettingfitformywedding wrote: »Thanks to everyone who posted their opinion and advice! I read through everyone's response and have decided to follow the low carb for a couple of weeks and see how it goes. I'm on day two and feel lots of energy and don't feel hungry! As I had said before, I did low cal and did well on it, but am wanting to see how my body responds to something different. Sometimes it's good to shake things up a bit. Every person responds differently to different things. I will post my 15 day results.
Two weeks isn't very long. Many who go lery low carb feel poorly the first few weeks because their electrolytes are out of balance. A vLC diet will cause you to need about 5000mg of sodium per day, so you will need to double your salt intake (most likely). You may need to up potassium and magnesium too.
I agree with @2Poufs. Consider giving it 4 weeks.
Good luck!callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
LCHF is one of many WOE that will help improve health and wellness. Any WOE that a person can sustain that will help them lose weight and become more fit will inherently improve your health markers.
For the OP, only time will tell if its beneficial and sustainable. For some people it works very well and for some (me) its a huge failure.
Following to see how the OP does in 15 or 30 days. Good luck OP.
I agree. It's one of many WOEs. It's just a matter of finding the one best suited for your personal health issues, and that you find satisfactory.callsitlikeiseeit wrote: »a low carb diet is essentially a way to cut calories. Unless you are diabetic, or have a history of diabetes in your family perhaps, it's generally unnecessary to follow a LC diet.cwolfman13 wrote: »low carb is just a way to cut calories...if you low carb and lose weight then you've also cut calories. people do put on some weight when they introduce carbs back into their diet as they restore depleted glycogen stores...essentially water...which has mass and thus weight.
I would disagree that low carb is just a way to cut calories. I'm sure it is for some people because carbs are easy to cut, but LCHF is a way of eating that most use to improve their health. It can be eaten in a calorie deficit or not, or to bulk.
Please substantiate the claim that "most" use LCHF to improve health. Are you saying the majority of LCHF adherents or using a different definition or is this yet another baseless claim aka the usual
Apologies. I should have said that most of the people who use a LCHF diet over the long term, and who frequent the various MFP groups (like Low Carber Daily), state that they use this diet to improve their health. They eat at a deficit for weight loss.
And I really don't think my usual claims are baseless.... My guess is that you write that because you generally disagree with my opinion; that alone does not mean that I wrong.
I can only speak for myself (which is true of everyone on these forums), but I don't suffer from a if reflux on a low carb diets, whereas I do when I increase my carb levels and eat grains!
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I just restarted paleo this week. The last couple weeks have been semi-paleo. For me, what has been the most successful is counting calories (which is generally frowned upon in the paleo and LCHF world). My best piece of advice is try to get over the anti-fat bias we all have. I'd also recommend watching the film Fat Head (available on YouTube)--it explains low carb eating and the science/history of modern diets.
Also, I highly recommend cooking with coconut oil. It's delicious and makes me feel full longer!0 -
Okay....Just posted this in another thread where the low carb posse was spouting their usual nonsense...
You don't necessarily have to go "low carb" to be healthy and lose weight, but a lot of highly processed foods are very carb/sugar laden and high calorie. With a diet rich in these processed foods, it is easy for a person to overconsume beyond their activity level. That is one of the reasons why following macro targets and knowing your daily maintenance calories is so important. Avoiding rice, potatoes, bread, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc. is not the answer... but limiting highly processed foods and not overindulging in general will help.
Here is the same type of meaningless correlation that just about every low carb fanatic uses to justify their recent turn toward better health:
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WinoGelato wrote: »gettingfitformywedding wrote: »My mom and co worker have convinced me that a low carb diet is what I should follow to reach my weight loss goals. I've read the other forums and am not interested in the debate on whether low calorie or low carb is the better of two.. I've tried low carb, I did well on it but constantly felt hungry. I know different diets work for different people, but these two people in particular have lost significant weight following extreme low carb diet. My coworker has lost 120 pounds since January of this year when he went to the doctor for the first time in awhile and found out he was diabetic and weighed over 300 pounds. These two people are following a diet similar to Atkins.. only eating 20-30 carbs per day. I suppose my question is.. is this realistic? 20 carbs is not a lot at all especially when you're used to eating 200-250 carbs per day. I feel that even if I lose the weight, or in my coworkers situation that when/if he stops following the low carb regime OR even goes back to eating a daily recommended amount of carbs that he will likely gain it back. Advice?
If a low carb diet helps you implement a low calorie diet, good for you. If you expect to eat the same calories that you do today, but only change the macros, nothing will happen.
Not true. You CAN eat more calories and lose weight if you're limiting carbs.
To the op, I on Atkins now and you need to make sure you are eating enough fat to feel full. I eat 3-4 meals a day and I am satisfied and I used to eat junk food all day long.
Edit to add, Atkins can be low calorie depending on what you eat but you're not supposed to count calories. I know that I'm eating about 1800-1900 calories though and I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days with no exercise so...obv something is working
Sorry, to clarify, are you saying that if you eat a low carb diet, you can eat in a calorie surplus above your maintenance level and still lose weight?
No. I'm saying that when counting calories I find that I have to eat 1200-1500 cals to lose. But counting carbs I can eat 1800-2000 and still lose
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WinoGelato wrote: »gettingfitformywedding wrote: »My mom and co worker have convinced me that a low carb diet is what I should follow to reach my weight loss goals. I've read the other forums and am not interested in the debate on whether low calorie or low carb is the better of two.. I've tried low carb, I did well on it but constantly felt hungry. I know different diets work for different people, but these two people in particular have lost significant weight following extreme low carb diet. My coworker has lost 120 pounds since January of this year when he went to the doctor for the first time in awhile and found out he was diabetic and weighed over 300 pounds. These two people are following a diet similar to Atkins.. only eating 20-30 carbs per day. I suppose my question is.. is this realistic? 20 carbs is not a lot at all especially when you're used to eating 200-250 carbs per day. I feel that even if I lose the weight, or in my coworkers situation that when/if he stops following the low carb regime OR even goes back to eating a daily recommended amount of carbs that he will likely gain it back. Advice?
If a low carb diet helps you implement a low calorie diet, good for you. If you expect to eat the same calories that you do today, but only change the macros, nothing will happen.
Not true. You CAN eat more calories and lose weight if you're limiting carbs.
To the op, I on Atkins now and you need to make sure you are eating enough fat to feel full. I eat 3-4 meals a day and I am satisfied and I used to eat junk food all day long.
Edit to add, Atkins can be low calorie depending on what you eat but you're not supposed to count calories. I know that I'm eating about 1800-1900 calories though and I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days with no exercise so...obv something is working
Sorry, to clarify, are you saying that if you eat a low carb diet, you can eat in a calorie surplus above your maintenance level and still lose weight?
No. I'm saying that when counting calories I find that I have to eat 1200-1500 cals to lose. But counting carbs I can eat 1800-2000 and still lose. Not only that but I'm losing more weight than eating less cals and more carbs
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Just posted this in another thread where the low carb posse was spouting their usual nonsense...
You don't necessarily have to go "low carb" to be healthy and lose weight, but a lot of highly processed foods are very carb/sugar laden and high calorie. With a diet rich in these processed foods, it is easy for a person to overconsume beyond their activity level. That is one of the reasons why following macro targets and knowing your daily maintenance calories is so important. Avoiding rice, potatoes, bread, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc. is not the answer... but limiting highly processed foods and not overindulging in general will help.
Here is the same type of meaningless correlation that just about every low carb fanatic uses to justify their recent turn toward better health:
Yes, but did the pirates eat any carbs or not? This is the question0 -
That inverted logarithmic X-axis of the pirate chart is short-circuiting my engineering brain. Oh the humanity, make it stop.0
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WinoGelato wrote: »gettingfitformywedding wrote: »My mom and co worker have convinced me that a low carb diet is what I should follow to reach my weight loss goals. I've read the other forums and am not interested in the debate on whether low calorie or low carb is the better of two.. I've tried low carb, I did well on it but constantly felt hungry. I know different diets work for different people, but these two people in particular have lost significant weight following extreme low carb diet. My coworker has lost 120 pounds since January of this year when he went to the doctor for the first time in awhile and found out he was diabetic and weighed over 300 pounds. These two people are following a diet similar to Atkins.. only eating 20-30 carbs per day. I suppose my question is.. is this realistic? 20 carbs is not a lot at all especially when you're used to eating 200-250 carbs per day. I feel that even if I lose the weight, or in my coworkers situation that when/if he stops following the low carb regime OR even goes back to eating a daily recommended amount of carbs that he will likely gain it back. Advice?
If a low carb diet helps you implement a low calorie diet, good for you. If you expect to eat the same calories that you do today, but only change the macros, nothing will happen.
Not true. You CAN eat more calories and lose weight if you're limiting carbs.
To the op, I on Atkins now and you need to make sure you are eating enough fat to feel full. I eat 3-4 meals a day and I am satisfied and I used to eat junk food all day long.
Edit to add, Atkins can be low calorie depending on what you eat but you're not supposed to count calories. I know that I'm eating about 1800-1900 calories though and I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days with no exercise so...obv something is working
Sorry, to clarify, are you saying that if you eat a low carb diet, you can eat in a calorie surplus above your maintenance level and still lose weight?
No. I'm saying that when counting calories I find that I have to eat 1200-1500 cals to lose. But counting carbs I can eat 1800-2000 and still lose
1) You are an alien and cannot metabolise effectively fat and protein
2) Your calorie counting is off, something is wrong with your logging0 -
Just posted this in another thread where the low carb posse was spouting their usual nonsense...
You don't necessarily have to go "low carb" to be healthy and lose weight, but a lot of highly processed foods are very carb/sugar laden and high calorie. With a diet rich in these processed foods, it is easy for a person to overconsume beyond their activity level. That is one of the reasons why following macro targets and knowing your daily maintenance calories is so important. Avoiding rice, potatoes, bread, veggies, fruits, whole grains, etc. is not the answer... but limiting highly processed foods and not overindulging in general will help.
Here is the same type of meaningless correlation that just about every low carb fanatic uses to justify their recent turn toward better health:
Yes, but did the pirates eat any carbs or not? This is the question
Rum is made from sugar, and sugar is a carb.... so indirectly, yes.
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WinoGelato wrote: »gettingfitformywedding wrote: »My mom and co worker have convinced me that a low carb diet is what I should follow to reach my weight loss goals. I've read the other forums and am not interested in the debate on whether low calorie or low carb is the better of two.. I've tried low carb, I did well on it but constantly felt hungry. I know different diets work for different people, but these two people in particular have lost significant weight following extreme low carb diet. My coworker has lost 120 pounds since January of this year when he went to the doctor for the first time in awhile and found out he was diabetic and weighed over 300 pounds. These two people are following a diet similar to Atkins.. only eating 20-30 carbs per day. I suppose my question is.. is this realistic? 20 carbs is not a lot at all especially when you're used to eating 200-250 carbs per day. I feel that even if I lose the weight, or in my coworkers situation that when/if he stops following the low carb regime OR even goes back to eating a daily recommended amount of carbs that he will likely gain it back. Advice?
If a low carb diet helps you implement a low calorie diet, good for you. If you expect to eat the same calories that you do today, but only change the macros, nothing will happen.
Not true. You CAN eat more calories and lose weight if you're limiting carbs.
To the op, I on Atkins now and you need to make sure you are eating enough fat to feel full. I eat 3-4 meals a day and I am satisfied and I used to eat junk food all day long.
Edit to add, Atkins can be low calorie depending on what you eat but you're not supposed to count calories. I know that I'm eating about 1800-1900 calories though and I've lost 4 pounds in the last 4 days with no exercise so...obv something is working
Sorry, to clarify, are you saying that if you eat a low carb diet, you can eat in a calorie surplus above your maintenance level and still lose weight?
No. I'm saying that when counting calories I find that I have to eat 1200-1500 cals to lose. But counting carbs I can eat 1800-2000 and still lose
1) You are an alien and cannot metabolise effectively fat and protein
2) Your calorie counting is off, something is wrong with your logging
Nothing is wrong with my logging. Just because you don't believe it's possible, doesn't mean it's not true0 -
How does it not make sense? Results speak for themselves. Period.0
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