Just started counting and I'm putting on weight!?
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Hi hunny, please don't be discouraged that you are not losing weight just keep working at it your body will need some time to adjust with coming off the pill. Don't forget to track you're macro nutrients as well as count your calories and remember muscle weighs more then fat so the scales may say your not losing weight but you could be gaining muscle so a shred will reveal your rewards in time. Good luck and keep going0
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Wow this forum got heated quick0
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Gotta love MFP, where all the special snowflakes think everyone else must be, too. Unfortunately, a lot of the old-timers aren't posting anymore, or this would already have been addressed (and some of it has been touched on).
You've put on a kilo since you've been counting and working out. You have been weighing your food inconsistently. 1. A kilo is within the range of a 'normal fluctuation'. It could be time of month, retaining solids
or water weight from working out. 2. You need to weigh all your solid food and semi solid food, especially things like peanut butter, cheese, pasta, rice, etc. 3. Are you logging your workouts, and if so, what percentage of your exercise calories are you eating back?
I haven't posted this in a while, but here is my MFP how to:
Buy a food scale, weigh and log everything.
Do cardio if you want, and if you do, only eat back 50% of your calories (if you are losing faster than expected after logging for a few weeks, then up the % you eat back). Lift weights and hit your protein goal to help maintain muscle mass while losing.
Cheat meals that take you over maintenance will sabotage your efforts. Log the cheat meals too (falls under the 'log everything' rule).
Eat anything you want in moderation, keeping in mind that your diet will be easier to stick with if you chose foods that make it easier to stay under your calories without feeling hungry.
Also it would be a good idea to read some of the best forum posts such as:
Calorie Counting 101
Logging Accuracy, Consistency, & You're Probably Eating More Than You Think
A Guide To Get You Started on Your Path To Sexy Pants0 -
^^^^ so much this.
Sorry your thread got derailed, OP. Also, have a look at this:
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Thanks queenliz99, you're the only one who hasn't ignored my comment on my own post lol
I did not ignore your posts. I have been trying to give you alternative solutions. It could be a fluctuation which you already knew on your own. I was just giving you an alternative if it wasn't. I also posted that you could message me if I left off anything and wanted to vent.0 -
Yes, everyone. As I said they may have to do certain things to achieve that equation. Or are you saying that there are some people who absolutely cannot lose weight?
I did not say people can never lose weight. CI<CO is not all the equation is if you do that but only eat carbs and don't lose. That's simple math. That is a logical fact. There are people in this world with insulin resistance that if they eat 1000 calories of bread and ran 2 miles and drank water, their body would not allow them to lose. Because of the insulin resistance they cannot break down that bread. So they still were eating less calories than they expended. But lost nothing.0 -
I did not say people can never lose weight. CI<CO is not all the equation is if you do that but only eat carbs and don't lose. That's simple math. That is a logical fact. There are people in this world with insulin resistance that if they eat 1000 calories of bread and ran 2 miles and drank water, their body would not allow them to lose. Because of the insulin resistance they cannot break down that bread. So they still were eating less calories than they expended. But lost nothing.
If they can't break down the bread, then how does their body store the energy in it? That literally doesn't make sense. If your body can't break something down, then it can't be stored as fat. I think you may be receiving misinformation from your treatment team.0 -
The bottom line remains that CI<CO works no matter what. Yes, a myriad of issues can affect the equation, and one might need to eat a certain way for medical conditions but the equation is always true. People are different but every single person has to take in less than they burn to achieve weight loss.
QTF.
If it were possible for anyone to be a special snowflake when it comes to weight loss, I would've been first in line.
OP, if you have gained weight over time, it's from eating too much food. The only exception to this would be water retention from a medical issue, in which case you need to go to the doctor now.
Make sure you weigh your solid food and measure your liquids so you have an accurate picture of how much you are eating.
If you exercise and count those calories, do so only for cardio and nothing else because everything outside of cardio is included in your activity level. Eat back only about 75% of your exercise calories.
If what you are experiencing now is water retention from your increased exercise, it will dissipate in a few weeks.0 -
blankiefinder wrote: »Gotta love MFP, where all the special snowflakes think everyone else must be, too. Unfortunately, a lot of the old-timers aren't posting anymore, or this would already have been addressed (and some of it has been touched on).
You've put on a kilo since you've been counting and working out. You have been weighing your food inconsistently. 1. A kilo is within the range of a 'normal fluctuation'. It could be time of month, retaining solids or water weight from working out. 2. You need to weigh all your solid food and semi solid food, especially things like peanut butter, cheese, pasta, rice, etc. 3. Are you logging your workouts, and if so, what percentage of your exercise calories are you eating back?
I haven't posted this in a while, but here is my MFP how to:
Buy a food scale, weigh and log everything.
Do cardio if you want, and if you do, only eat back 50% of your calories (if you are losing faster than expected after logging for a few weeks, then up the % you eat back). Lift weights and hit your protein goal to help maintain muscle mass while losing.
Cheat meals that take you over maintenance will sabotage your efforts. Log the cheat meals too (falls under the 'log everything' rule).
Eat anything you want in moderation, keeping in mind that your diet will be easier to stick with if you chose foods that make it easier to stay under your calories without feeling hungry.
Also it would be a good idea to read some of the best forum posts such as:
Calorie Counting 101
Logging Accuracy, Consistency, & You're Probably Eating More Than You Think
A Guide To Get You Started on Your Path To Sexy Pantssnickerscharlie wrote: »^^^^ so much this.
Sorry your thread got derailed, OP. Also, have a look at this:
These two posts as well.0 -
I did not say people can never lose weight. CI<CO is not all the equation is if you do that but only eat carbs and don't lose. That's simple math. That is a logical fact. There are people in this world with insulin resistance that if they eat 1000 calories of bread and ran 2 miles and drank water, their body would not allow them to lose. Because of the insulin resistance they cannot break down that bread. So they still were eating less calories than they expended. But lost nothing.
I have a secret.
CICO works for every single time (every single time) whether a person wants to lose weight, gain weight, or manage weight. If you eat less calories than you burn you will lose weight.
However, when people have medical conditions, it just takes some time and work to find that CICO number that will work due to their special condition.
Your 1,000 calorie bread and all carb examples are extreme and does not even apply to the OP's original question.
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janejellyroll wrote: »
If they can't break down the bread, then how does their body store the energy in it? That literally doesn't make sense. If your body can't break something down, then it can't be stored as fat. I think you may be receiving misinformation from your treatment team.
That's what I'm thinking as well.0 -
I did not say people can never lose weight. CI<CO is not all the equation is if you do that but only eat carbs and don't lose. That's simple math. That is a logical fact. There are people in this world with insulin resistance that if they eat 1000 calories of bread and ran 2 miles and drank water, their body would not allow them to lose. Because of the insulin resistance they cannot break down that bread. So they still were eating less calories than they expended. But lost nothing.
That doesn't even begin to make sense.0 -
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If you can't break down the bread, or whatever, then how does your body store the energy in it? If your body can't break something down, then it can't be stored as fat. You might as well be eating rocks as far as affecting your body fat.Or what you are eating now is low cal but too hard for your body to break down so you are holding on to the food and putting on weight.0 -
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for @Reerdaber - I would suggest getting a digital scale. They're not that expensive and it really makes a difference. My other suggestion is once you have it, weigh EVERYTHING for a week or two while eating like you normally do. I think you'll find that your estimates were off originally. I know when I did that, I was totally surprised by how much extra I was eating that I didn't realize! Once you get a baseline, you can start finding things to change to lower your calories. It doesn't have to be cutting out 'junk' food either, just eat less of it. If you start slow and change only a couple things at a time and give yourself time to get used to it, you're much more likely to keep going. Yes, it's a lot slower, but more sustainable over time as you retrain your body and brain to what a 'normal' portion of food is.
FOR THE THREAD DERAILERS
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How does that work?
Unless she's eating bricks and tires, I don't really think this is happening. The digestive system is pretty effective at what it's designed to do.
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UltimateRBF wrote: »
Nice try, but I read the thread. You're not a victim.
Lol I don't need your approval. Nor do I need your support. The poster said science doesn't give a *kitten* what a believe which is offensive. So I responded. Good bye to you.
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@Reerdaber your post went crazy and you weren't even involved. It could also be from coming off the pill that your weight isn't fluctuating. That might be something. i know that personally I change BC (well i stopped it, got pregnant, and then changed bc) and it definitely has an affect on my hormones and such. JUst an idea. Hopefully though whatever tests you are going for show up normal.
As far as weight loss if it's only been a week or so than give it time. I was stuck at the same weight for weeks so i measured certain areas of my body and noticed a decrease in inches. So the scale does lie sometimes. Other than that yeah the basic principle of CICO should work for you. Good luck!0 -
jennifer_417 wrote: »
Unless she's eating bricks and tires, I don't really think this is happening. The digestive system is pretty effective at what it's designed to do.
The digestive system is effective if you don't have insulin resistance or other medical conditions.0 -
Lol I don't need your approval. Nor do I need your support. The poster said science doesn't give a *kitten* what a believe which is offensive. So I responded. Good bye to you.
Science, as a discipline, doesn't care what anyone believes. How is that offensive? Do you think science SHOULD take your personal beliefs into account?0 -
DeguelloTex wrote: »If you can't break down the bread, or whatever, then how does your body store the energy in it? If your body can't break something down, then it can't be stored as fat. You might as well be eating rocks as far as affecting your body fat.
Your body eventually breaks it down but it takes a really long time. Thus just eating less than you put out won't work
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If your digestive system can't break down the bread, then how does your body store the energy in it? If your body can't break something down, then it can't be stored as fat. You might as well be eating rocks as far as affecting your body fat.
The digestive system is effective if you don't have insulin resistance or other medical conditions.
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stevencloser wrote: »
That doesn't even begin to make sense.
It's an unfortunate problem for some people whether it makes sense to you or not. Do your research. You will see im right.
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Your body eventually breaks it down but it takes a really long time. Thus just eating less than you put out won't work
How does your body store it as fat without breaking it down? Are there just, like, pieces of bread hanging out in your body until enough time passes to break them down? Do they stay in the stomach or does the body somehow transfer the undigested bread to other parts of the body?0 -
Why does taking a really long time change the number of calories?
Your body eventually breaks it down but it takes a really long time. Thus just eating less than you put out won't work0 -
I have a secret.
CICO works for every single time (every single time) whether a person wants to lose weight, gain weight, or manage weight. If you eat less calories than you burn you will lose weight.
However, when people have medical conditions, it just takes some time and work to find that CICO number that will work due to their special condition.
Your 1,000 calorie bread and all carb examples are extreme and does not even apply to the OP's original question.
I was giving the OP an option of what possibly could be causing her scale issues or stall. I didn't just tell her it could just be a fluctuation or eat less. That's basic. She knows that.
As for the equation you state, I've had an active and resting metabolic test to tell me how much I can eat and I eat well below that AND workout. It doesn't change my scale if I have simple carbs.0 -
You know it's not possible to eat below RMR and not have your scale change, right? That's basic. You should know that.
I was giving the OP an option of what possibly could be causing her scale issues or stall. I didn't just tell her it could just be a fluctuation or eat less. That's basic. She knows that.
As for the equation you state, I've had an active and resting metabolic test to tell me how much I can eat and I eat well below that AND workout. It doesn't change my scale if I have simple carbs.
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I was giving the OP an option of what possibly could be causing her scale issues or stall. I didn't just tell her it could just be a fluctuation or eat less. That's basic. She knows that.
As for the equation you state, I've had an active and resting metabolic test to tell me how much I can eat and I eat well below that AND workout. It doesn't change my scale if I have simple carbs.
Why are you using bread as an example then? Isn't bread a complex carbohydrate?0
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