having gastric bypass surgery in September
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veganbettie wrote: »i would just be so sad to not eat as much food as i wanted....
I also don't understand the doing this big surgery without seeing a therapist and or nutritionist, in my opinion (which obviously doesn't count for much) a doctor should require a patient see a therapist and nutritionist and attempt to lose weigh the old fashion way before they do this life altering thing to their bodies.
But it seems nowadays doctors are more about fixing the problems rather than preventing the problems.
To each their own, but I really don't like these procedures except in extremely extreme cases.
Good luck OP, I hope you find what you're looking for.
These days, most programs do require seeing a therapist for an evaluation and nutrition classes. My program had that and also a requirement to attend support groups that had people who were both pre-surgery and post-surgery. I started therapy a year before I ever contemplated surgery. I believe your head has to be in the right place for lifestyle changes of any kind to work.
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veganbettie wrote: »i would just be so sad to not eat as much food as i wanted....
I also don't understand the doing this big surgery without seeing a therapist and or nutritionist, in my opinion (which obviously doesn't count for much) a doctor should require a patient see a therapist and nutritionist and attempt to lose weigh the old fashion way before they do this life altering thing to their bodies.
But it seems nowadays doctors are more about fixing the problems rather than preventing the problems.
To each their own, but I really don't like these procedures except in extremely extreme cases.
Good luck OP, I hope you find what you're looking for.
These days, most programs do require seeing a therapist for an evaluation and nutrition classes. My program had that and also a requirement to attend support groups that had people who were both pre-surgery and post-surgery. I started therapy a year before I ever contemplated surgery. I believe your head has to be in the right place for lifestyle changes of any kind to work.
from the sounds of it the OP isn't required to see a therapist or a nutritionist, which is why there is concern0 -
slinke2014 wrote: »from the sounds of it the OP isn't required to see a therapist or a nutritionist, which is why there is concern
Totally understandable. I can't imagine going through the process without my surgeon and his awesome support staff. A good surgical team will not just perform surgery and send you on your way, they will give you the tools you need to optimize the procedure.0 -
Problems are generally avoidable and individuals often cause their own discomfort.
Oh absolutely. I believe that is the case for all my friends who have had it done. But if they did not have the self-discipline to engage in behavior modification before the surgery, it's not surprising to me that they don't have it afterwards, either.0 -
maillemaker wrote: »Problems are generally avoidable and individuals often cause their own discomfort.
Oh absolutely. I believe that is the case for all my friends who have had it done. But if they did not have the self-discipline to engage in behavior modification before the surgery, it's not surprising to me that they don't have it afterwards, either.
And if they could, they wouldn't need the surgery.
WLS is a concept that I find very hard to understand.
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Hi there, I am new to the site, (well returning from ages ago). Seeing as the month is almost over you have probably already had your surgery, but I just wanted to see how it all went for you. I had the surgery myself in August and am looking to connect with others to trade stories, tips and advice and support.
If interested feel free to send me a message.
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allaboutthefood wrote: »I am also wondering why the surgery, unless is cause of health reason. I have not got it done and don't want to. I do know 4 people who have, three of them have made is a lifestyle change, they now work out and eat right, unfortunately the fourth, once they where able to start eating again, they chose to continue to eat all the wrong foods, was not active and yes put all the weight back on in a couple years. I wish you much success on your journey.
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This will be unfortunate. Once you remove a chunk of your intestine you will no longer be able to digest foods properly, nor extract needed nutrients. This is a temporary Band-Aid approach that treats the symptom rather than the cause. You'll be sorry in the long run. Better to focus on diet. I wish you luck anyway.0
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Yes but ive tried so hard since i was like 10 im ready to finally fix my life
I just want you to know it will not fix your life, you have to fix your life. This surgery is just a tool, if you don't use your tool in the right way you will find yourself right back in this spot. I post this off experience. I had the gastric sleeve in 2011 and oh boy was it a journey. I was very sick after couldn't drink water for about two weeks just sick. Then I found a way to hold it in drinking it at room temperature. I vomited after every meal for a while still do from time to time. But you do lose weight due to not eating much because of the reduction of stomach size. This is only a temporary fix it only becomes permanent if you adapt to the lifestyle change to keep it off. I failed bcuz I went back to old habits of eating crap often & not being active and the weight has come back quickly. Good luck on this lifestyle change i've been where you are with this decision I hope you use your tool wisely. ..0 -
slinke2014 wrote: »veganbettie wrote: »i would just be so sad to not eat as much food as i wanted.... when you dont have cormalities of high blood pressure, sleep apnea, or diabetic, some things are ruled out. I had none of the cormalities so I made a good candidate for wls but I did have to see a psychologist and nutrition before and after surgery the psychologist is much needed because off all the things you go thur after. Good luck
I also don't understand the doing this big surgery without seeing a therapist and or nutritionist, in my opinion (which obviously doesn't count for much) a doctor should require a patient see a therapist and nutritionist and attempt to lose weigh the old fashion way before they do this life altering thing to their bodies.
But it seems nowadays doctors are more about fixing the problems rather than preventing the problems.
To each their own, but I really don't like these procedures except in extremely extreme cases.
Good luck OP, I hope you find what you're looking for.
These days, most programs do require seeing a therapist for an evaluation and nutrition classes. My program had that and also a requirement to attend support groups that had people who were both pre-surgery and post-surgery. I started therapy a year before I ever contemplated surgery. I believe your head has to be in the right place for lifestyle changes of any kind to work.
from the sounds of it the OP isn't required to see a therapist or a nutritionist, which is why there is concern
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For people judging OP for thinking of having WLS, it is a tool to help lose weight, not "instant gratification". You still have to follow the surgeon's diet and exercise to be able to lose weight. Typically people who have this surgery have tried everything and this is a last resort. OP just wanted to know if anyone had it, not to be told to try a "calorie deficit". Of course he or she has. We all have.
I had the sleeve in July. I have lost 73 lbs all together. I suggest no matter what surgery you have to be diligent about getting in your protein and water. Walk every day- even if you can only do a few minutes at a time. It helps. Also attend a support group. Best of luck.0 -
Hey everyone im having gastric bypass a month from Friday... eek
im wondering if anyone else here has had it or planning to do it... im starting my own diet for the next 2 week's.. not going crazy with it but going to eat pretty healthy. Then after two weeks i start my pre op diet.. oh boy... just looking for advice or friends
My question to you is how much do you have to lose?
I haven't had gastric bypass but my SIL and 3 of her sisters did. My SIL lost over 100 pounds in a short time, had digestive troubles, got a lot of hanging skin all over her body, and eventually gained about half of the weight back. She still has digestive problems, and that was five years ago she had the surgery. She has told me if she had it to do it over again she would not have done it.
Her sisters didn't lose a whole lot of weight, but gained back what they dId lose.
The only thing required to lose weight is a calorie deficit, and you can do that without surgery. Your results will be slower but you'll be able to build good eating habits that will take you through your life.
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To all the ones on this post who are just saying negative things you can leave... i am doing this for me. Yes it is a long a hard road basically im starting out eating as if i was a baby learning tp eat again and having a healthy relationship with food. I do plan on seeing a therapist and possibly a nutritionist after. I have known a lot of people with success but also a lot with regain. This is a TOOL not a fix. Im excited but nervous as this is my first surgery. And i am not a child i have done so much research and planning it would makd your head spin. And to the others giving great advice and support thank you
People are being honest with you, but I'm sorry if you choose to see it as negative. 0 -
It's the water issue that makes me say hecks no. Your reduced stomach will only hold about 2 tbs of food/liquid at a sitting. How exactly are you going to drink enough water when you exercise? My cousin had it done, and she has to carry a water bottle around all day and take sips. She does not exercise because she cannot really replace the sweat with water quick enough.
I manage an active lifestyle after Bariatric surgery just fine. I do carry a water bottle with me.0 -
I only read the first couple of pages but I don't understand why people are questioning the OP's reasons for doing the surgery. If it's the best that the OP and her Dr decided in then why not support her decision. Just because one person wouldn't do it doesn't mean it's a good fit for another person. OP if this is something you are choosing then I am sure you have exhausted all other options and you and your DR made this decision together. I know several people who have had so much success with getting this done, I'm sure you will be happy you did this. Yes it's major surgery, but it's your body and your decision. Good luck and I wish you a speedy recovery.0
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Why question the plan? Because too many people view this as a quick fix and easy answer. It is neither. And if you don't make the necessary changes in lifestyle the weight will come back and you end up far worse off.0
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Hey everyone im having gastric bypass a month from Friday... eek im wondering if anyone else here has had it or planning to do it... im starting my own diet for the next 2 week's.. not going crazy with it but going to eat pretty healthy. Then after two weeks i start my pre op diet.. oh boy... just looking for advice or friends
@rny91415 I looked for a post surgery update. If I missed it in this thread I am sorry but I am wishing you success.
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allenpriest wrote: »Why question the plan? Because too many people view this as a quick fix and easy answer. It is neither. And if you don't make the necessary changes in lifestyle the weight will come back and you end up far worse off.
And the rest of us view it as an unneccesary, hard and dangerous answer. You still have to do the things everybody else have to do to lose weight - eat less, move more. But in addition you'll have a crippled stomach and intestines, life long malabsorbtions, and you can never eat your favorite foods again, and never a normal adult sized meal, without risking pain and vomiting.
I have started calling this operation "barbaric surgery".0 -
The OP hasn't logged back in since the first day. I guess since she didn't get the answer she wanted she quit listening. That's not a good sign even for her success with such surgery. There was just such a "quick fix/magic pill" vibe going on and far too little physical and psychological preparation outlined.0
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The OP did NOT ask whether she should have the surgery. Surgery talk is allowed here.
You need to meet people where they are. Not where YOU think they should be.
The holier-than-thou people here are a big turn-off.
I hope she got the support she was seeking somewhere else since she was chased away from here.0 -
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kommodevaran wrote: »allenpriest wrote: »Why question the plan? Because too many people view this as a quick fix and easy answer. It is neither. And if you don't make the necessary changes in lifestyle the weight will come back and you end up far worse off.
And the rest of us view it as an unneccesary, hard and dangerous answer. You still have to do the things everybody else have to do to lose weight - eat less, move more. But in addition you'll have a crippled stomach and intestines, life long malabsorbtions, and you can never eat your favorite foods again, and never a normal adult sized meal, without risking pain and vomiting.
I have started calling this operation "barbaric surgery".
And yet the fact still remains that more people are successful keeping weight off with bariatric surgery than any other method. Most people who try to lose weight "the normal way" fail. Surgery should not be anyone's first resort but if repeated attempts at weight loss have not been successful, surgery is better than continuing the yo-yo cycle of losing and regaining - never mind the negative effects this has on your mental health too.0 -
Opinions are like butt holes. Everyone has one and most of them stink. In an ideal world we'd all live on foraged nuts and berries and the world would be a verdant haven and we'd all be naked and sexy.
OP, you need to do what you need to do. If you have talked to a doctor (or several) and you have discussed it with the people you live with, and your family, or whomever is important to you, and if your health is compromised more by not doing it than the potential risk of doing it, then you're the only person who can give the final go / no-go to the whole thing.0 -
peter56765 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »allenpriest wrote: »Why question the plan? Because too many people view this as a quick fix and easy answer. It is neither. And if you don't make the necessary changes in lifestyle the weight will come back and you end up far worse off.
And the rest of us view it as an unneccesary, hard and dangerous answer. You still have to do the things everybody else have to do to lose weight - eat less, move more. But in addition you'll have a crippled stomach and intestines, life long malabsorbtions, and you can never eat your favorite foods again, and never a normal adult sized meal, without risking pain and vomiting.
I have started calling this operation "barbaric surgery".
And yet the fact still remains that more people are successful keeping weight off with bariatric surgery than any other method. Most people who try to lose weight "the normal way" fail. Surgery should not be anyone's first resort but if repeated attempts at weight loss have not been successful, surgery is better than continuing the yo-yo cycle of losing and regaining - never mind the negative effects this has on your mental health too.
Nobody said that people can't keep the weight off after surgery. One person that I've seen so far said she's kep her weight off.
Please back up your assertion with peer reviewed research.
I posted up stream of four women (my sister in law and her three sisters) who were not successful with keeping the weight off after gastric bypass, and that's in real life.
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susan100df wrote: »The OP did NOT ask whether she should have the surgery. Surgery talk is allowed here.
You need to meet people where they are. Not where YOU think they should be.
The holier-than-thou people here are a big turn-off.
I hope she got the support she was seeking somewhere else since she was chased away from here.
Well, I hope she does well too. However, nobody here is responsible for her decision to not come back and post anymore. She did ask for advice and got it.
ETA: Didn't realize this was from back in August either. She's either had it or not. Would love to hear too.0 -
I hate this thread so much. Bariatric surgery is definitely the "easy way out". I can understand the need for surgery in the instances when a person is so overweight that their mobility is affected, death is knocking at their door and a "quick fix" is needed to save their life. Otherwise, this surgery is ridiculous. If you are physically and mentally capable enough to get in your car and drive to the store to get the food that's making you obese, then you are able to start a little exercise routine, make better food choices, and get yourself to a therapist and nutritionist and work on your relationship with food.
If you've lost weight in the past and failed to keep it off because you've failed to truly change your lifestyle, then bariatric surgery is STILL not going to help. You'll still have a warped relationship with food, only this time your body physically cannot hold the volume as it did pre-surgery. I know SEVERAL people who have "eaten through" their surgeries (i.e. stretched their stomach back out) because the true issue was not addressed.
Your relationship with food needs to be evaluated and altered, NOT your body.
But have fun vomiting, feeling stuffed, and taking lots of pills for the rest of your life (if you are one of the small percentages who actually succeed). I'll be over here losing weight AND eating three slices of pizza 0 -
Peer reviewed study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23163728/
Definitely supports people like me.0 -
This surgery causes a host of health problems and won't change the underlying problem. I hate to see that happen to you.0
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