Pavlok

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  • Posts: 15,317 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    As much as I don't care for the book / movie, has no one seen A Clockwork Orange? The whole point of the story is that classical conditioning doesn't really work when dealing with humans. Sure, you can stick someone with an involuntary reaction to certain stimuli, but you don't really change who the person fundamentally is.
    Using a device or pain stimulus to do the same with food will have the same effect. You might fool your body into reacting against certain foods, but you won't have fundamentally changed your relationship with food, you'll just have to deal with a higher hurdle to eating them.

    seen it, loved the soundtrack
  • Posts: 5,377 Member
    queenliz99 wrote: »

    seen it, loved the soundtrack

    Will you Tell me more about the soundtrack, or does that request sound like an overture?
  • Posts: 15,317 Member
    senecarr wrote: »

    Will you Tell me more about the soundtrack, or does that request sound like an overture?

    do Tell
  • Posts: 12,942 Member
    Venus_Red wrote: »

    Because call/response has nothing to do with harm. Someone decided to add in that bit but it could be any response, really.

    What? The OP said she used rubber bands on her wrists, which caused bruising. That is physical harm.
  • Posts: 12,942 Member
    If you mean Pavlov, then yes, behavioral conditioning is very effective. However, pairing a unpleasant stimulus with food probably isn't a good idea, because food isn't bad, and that's likely to lead to some seriously disorded thinking.
    Try pairing a pleasant stimulus with desirable behaviors. For instance, I used to buy myself an inexpensive pair of earrings for every 5 lbs I lost. I love earrings, so it made me want to do the desirable behavior, which was eat less.

    ETA: I didn't realize that Pavlok was a thing, so I assumed it was a typo, esp with the rubber band thing. I'm finishing up a Bachelor's in Psychology right now, so perhaps it is a pardonable error. I stand by the rest of what I said, though.

    And here we go, well said. This is exactly what makes that kind of behavior harmful.
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