I went from morbidly obese to 6 pack abs! Ask me Anything

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  • belgerian
    belgerian Posts: 1,059 Member
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  • LadyKT
    LadyKT Posts: 287 Member
    vismal wrote: »
    I don't use the MFP recommended calorie or rate of loss. I prefer to set up my macros using this method:
    Doing it that way you would NOT eat back any exercise calories as they are accounted for already.

    Oh man, thank you for this video! I was trying to figure my macros on the IIFYM site and it was giving me poverty macros - like only 100 carbs a day! This is so much better!!!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Hi, your results are absolutely amazing. Its very impressive. I am almost in the similar state. I weigh 194 Lbs , height 5' 10" and age 29 years. my goal is to built a slim, sculpted and muscular body. should I go for a weight loss phase first ? should I do weight training along with cardio ?
    With those stats it's very hard to tell without a picture. If you want to look sculpted and muscular, regardless of what you do first, you absolutely need to lift weights. If have never lifted weights seriously, I'd maybe suggest your first 3-6 months just eating maintenance calories while focusing on lifting. After that you can proceed to a fat loss phase.
    mlabelle33 wrote: »
    What I'm having trouble with is binge eating. Has this ever happenned to you and how did you deal with that. Thanks
    Binge eating was certainly a problem for me. It's how I got as heavy as I was. Once I started counting calories I simply would not let myself eat if I didn't have the calories available for it. It didn't matter how hungry I was, I simply didn't eat if I had no calories left. As time went on, I learned what foods provided the maximum amount of satiation compared to the calories they contain. You can eat quite a bit of vegetables and lean meats for very few calories. I made sure I ate plenty of foods like that every day.
  • happysoul72
    happysoul72 Posts: 7 Member
    vismal wrote: »
    You look great!


    How has getting down to this weight and building up muscle impacting your life? The good and bad of it.
    The good: Feel better physically and emotionally by a degree I cannot put into words. Look better. More confidence. I can climb stairs with feeling like death. I work in health care and no long feel like a hypocrite when I tell my patience about the risk factors associated with obesity. I love being able to pull out old fat picture when someone says something to the effect of "You don't understand because your in shape" or "you don't get it, you've never been fat". I could go on and on in this category.

    The bad: I'm kind of a pain about going out to eat certain places. I don't much like eating food I didn't prepare unless its on my very few and far between free days. Don't get me wrong I eat treats and snacks all the time but I weigh/prepare them myself so I can account for it. I will always feel the need to better myself. When I was fat I didn't care. Sometimes this can be mentally exhausting. But the bads don't even begin to compare to all the goods.
    GOOOD JOB !!! You look amazing and the best part you feel amazing as a person .
  • adawson55510
    adawson55510 Posts: 60 Member
    Well done
  • fitnthine5teban
    fitnthine5teban Posts: 4 Member
    Hi Vismal I read through a lot of ur posts and I commend you not just on ur weight loss but answering all the questions everyone has. Your time is valuable and that ur willing to share it with all of us so we can be as successful as you is pretty cool. My question is what was your daily calories goal and what foods did u eat. I don't know if I shld eat less or more or what but I lose then gain then lose but myeasurents are dropping. I lose about a half an inch every two weeks sonim thrilled but the number in thee scale is driving me nuts.
  • fitnthine5teban
    fitnthine5teban Posts: 4 Member
    My starting point is almost exactly as yours, 6'0'' 313lbs. Currently at 305lbs. What did one day look like for you in the beginning, I want to replicate your success. started off powerlifting and have stuck it, don't eat carbs but do a carb evening time week. do?.
  • fitnthine5teban
    fitnthine5teban Posts: 4 Member
    Sorry my previous posts were from my cell phone and all jumbled here is was I was saying, My starting point is almost exactly as yours, 6'0'' 313lbs. Currently at 305lbs. What did one day look like for you in the beginning, in other words if I could shadow you for one day lets say your second month in what would your calorie intake have been? How many meals would you have eaten? What exercise did you do? Did you count calories? 60 pgs is a ton of comments to read through but I'm working on it! I want to replicate your success. I started off powerlifting and have stuck to it I recently received a recommendation to not do as much as I do and switch to a 5x5 routine which I have done, don't eat carbs but do a carb evening one time a week. Thoughts? I have a food scale and pretty much measure out everything. I follow John Kiefer and his carb cycling diet called the carbnite solution. So at this point i'm doing the diet recommended for someone +150lbs which means I eat approx. 2200 calories in healthy fats and proteins such as beef, chicken, and fish. I also take protein shakes and vitamin supplements
  • iloveclones67
    iloveclones67 Posts: 13 Member
    Great story. If you're still answering questions:

    I'm in a weight loss study (they pay me to study me losing weight... :) ) I've lost about 3/4 of what I want, and initially was doing some weight training. After an ankle injury, I kinda backed off the weight training and concentrated on the cardio (which was a "requirement" of the study). I'd like to start in on the weight training again, but even before, I was having a bit of trouble with squats (48yo knees and all). Any suggestions?
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Sorry my previous posts were from my cell phone and all jumbled here is was I was saying, My starting point is almost exactly as yours, 6'0'' 313lbs. Currently at 305lbs. What did one day look like for you in the beginning, in other words if I could shadow you for one day lets say your second month in what would your calorie intake have been? How many meals would you have eaten? What exercise did you do? Did you count calories? 60 pgs is a ton of comments to read through but I'm working on it! I want to replicate your success. I started off powerlifting and have stuck to it I recently received a recommendation to not do as much as I do and switch to a 5x5 routine which I have done, don't eat carbs but do a carb evening one time a week. Thoughts? I have a food scale and pretty much measure out everything. I follow John Kiefer and his carb cycling diet called the carbnite solution. So at this point i'm doing the diet recommended for someone +150lbs which means I eat approx. 2200 calories in healthy fats and proteins such as beef, chicken, and fish. I also take protein shakes and vitamin supplements
    I tell people all the time not to do what you are trying. Do not mirror what I did exactly. We are two different people with different genetics, preferences, etc. While we share a similar height and starting weight, that doesn't mean the amount of calories I ate is appropriate for you. You need to eat enough calories so that you lose weight consistently. This can be determined through trial and error. 2200 seems a touch low, but accuracy of your calorie count effects that more than anything. When I first started dieting, what I thought was 2000 calories was more than 3000 due to logging inaccuracies, cheat days, and forgetting to log things. The number of meals you eat in a day and when you eat them is almost completely irrelevant to fat loss. I don't find carb cycling to be necessary beyond personal preference. If you enjoy or find it easier to only eat carbs once a week, that's fine, but it isn't going to make you lose weight any faster with all other factors being equal. As to powerlifting vs 5x5, they are both fine. Do whichever you enjoy most. If you have aspirations to become a powerlifter at some point, the powerlifting routine makes sense to me.
    Great story. If you're still answering questions:

    I'm in a weight loss study (they pay me to study me losing weight... :) ) I've lost about 3/4 of what I want, and initially was doing some weight training. After an ankle injury, I kinda backed off the weight training and concentrated on the cardio (which was a "requirement" of the study). I'd like to start in on the weight training again, but even before, I was having a bit of trouble with squats (48yo knees and all). Any suggestions?
    If your knees make it so you cannot tolerate squats, there are plenty of other ways to exercise your legs. While squats are absolutely great, and everyone who can do them probably should, there is no point in trying to do something that hurts you. Leg press is a decent alternative, lunges are good, leg extensions. All of those substitutes can also aggravate the knee. You have to try them and see how they work for you.
  • fitnthine5teban
    fitnthine5teban Posts: 4 Member
    Thanks man, I appreciate the insight. I guess for now I'll just stick to trial and error. What I'm doing now seems to be working and I'll just keep going until I see I've hit a dead end and then maybe change things up!
  • Eleted
    Eleted Posts: 121 Member
    Congratulations! You look amazing. :) I don't really have any questions that probably haven't already been asked; I'm just marking this so I can read it later

  • mingle287
    mingle287 Posts: 44 Member
    Thanks for answering all of our questions! Great work.

    Can you please tell what your ab routine exercise are? Diet as well....so you can see your abs??

    Hope all is well.
  • BritBoogaloo
    BritBoogaloo Posts: 67 Member
    Yay! I did it, I got to the point where I can make my own "success story" thread!

    As my success was largely thanks to the awesome tips you gave in this thread, I linked to your thread in my own post. It seems simpler than rehashing to everyone everything that you already told them!

    In conclusion, you are awesome and know what you're talking about. Thanks again!

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10277155/6-months-in-22-kg-48-5-pounds-down
  • proudseal
    proudseal Posts: 83 Member
    You are such an inspiration! Thank you for taking so much time to share what you have learned.

    The constant struggle of being overweight can become part of one's identity. In a way, being fat has defined me for so long, that I'm a little afraid of the unknown - I won't know what to do with myself once I'm at a healthy weight!

    Once you became fit and no longer had that struggle in your life, did you ever find you were at a loss? Didn't know who you were anymore, had to redefine your goals in life, etc...?
  • gherring2014
    gherring2014 Posts: 16 Member
    I'm on page 38 and can't seem to find a couple of questions I have. How often do you change up your lifting routine? When you stop seeing gains? Or a certain amount of time? I understand with 5x5 you never change up your routine, just weight. But using like strong lifts for example? Also when you are doing cut/bulking cycles do you take any time to maintain between the 2 cycles or do you just go right into the next cycle with no breaks? Sorry if these are repeat questions. Thank you so much for such solid advice!!
  • mumblemagic
    mumblemagic Posts: 1,090 Member
    rageginger wrote: »
    1. Myfitnesspal of course. It wasn't until I began tracking my intake that my success really started to take off
    2. Understanding that "eating clean" is meaningless and that in order to have true life long success I had to eat foods I enjoyed (ice cream, cookies, etc) on a regular basis but in moderation

    #1 rings so true for me - it's been just over a month since I started truly tracking every single thing I eat and drink, and it's amazing to see the results of just being aware and making decisions based on that!

    #2 is a bit of a revelation to me, because I've been avoiding "treat" type foods, since I've had trouble in the past with going from a tiny bit of a treat to the entire box/carton of whatever it is. Moderation is key, and something that I'm going to learn going forward!

    Many people (myself included) struggle with the psychological side of this - learning to eat only *one* cookie rather than the whole pack, rationing out the Giant Chocolate Buttons etc. For this reason some people find it easier to lose weight by avoiding these things all together at first, sometimes slowly introducing them back into the diet later on, or not introducing them back at all. So while the clean eating thing is a myth from the point of view of physical health some people find it easier to maintain a healthy lifestyle by cutting out their food cocaine... :smile:
  • jenj1313
    jenj1313 Posts: 898 Member
    5 months and 60 pages of AMA... you're amazing!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    mingle287 wrote: »
    Thanks for answering all of our questions! Great work.

    Can you please tell what your ab routine exercise are? Diet as well....so you can see your abs??

    Hope all is well.
    Having visible abs is almost completely dependent on having a low level of body fat. I rarely work my abs directly because a previous injury prevents a lot of the best exercises. I suggest training abs the same way you train any other muscle, weighed sets in a reasonable rep range 2-3 times a week. Cable crunches and planks are good choices. As far as diet, you simply have to eat in a calorie deficit long enough to lose enough body fat to have visible abs.
    Yay! I did it, I got to the point where I can make my own "success story" thread!

    As my success was largely thanks to the awesome tips you gave in this thread, I linked to your thread in my own post. It seems simpler than rehashing to everyone everything that you already told them!

    In conclusion, you are awesome and know what you're talking about. Thanks again!

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10277155/6-months-in-22-kg-48-5-pounds-down

    I left a message on your post. You did an AWESOME job! I'm very proud!
    proudseal wrote: »
    You are such an inspiration! Thank you for taking so much time to share what you have learned.

    The constant struggle of being overweight can become part of one's identity. In a way, being fat has defined me for so long, that I'm a little afraid of the unknown - I won't know what to do with myself once I'm at a healthy weight!

    Once you became fit and no longer had that struggle in your life, did you ever find you were at a loss? Didn't know who you were anymore, had to redefine your goals in life, etc...?
    While being obese was certainly part of my identity, upon losing the weight, I had no trouble whatsoever adjusting to no longer being obese. I looked better, and more importantly felt better. My life improved so dramatically and in so many ways that the opposite happened and I now have trouble remembering what it was like when I was obese. Fortunately, since the process does not happen overnight, you do have time to adjust.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    I'm on page 38 and can't seem to find a couple of questions I have. How often do you change up your lifting routine? When you stop seeing gains? Or a certain amount of time? I understand with 5x5 you never change up your routine, just weight. But using like strong lifts for example? Also when you are doing cut/bulking cycles do you take any time to maintain between the 2 cycles or do you just go right into the next cycle with no breaks? Sorry if these are repeat questions. Thank you so much for such solid advice!!
    I give any lifting program at least 3 months. Anything shorter is not enough to fully see the results. With a beginners routine, you should probably run it for 9 months to a year. After that, I would run a program for a long as a bulk or cut phase takes. For me, I usually run a higher frequency routine (5-6 day a week) while bulking and I do an upper/lower 4 day split or a 3 day total body routine for cutting as your body cannot tolerate as much volume in a calorie deficit. You do not need to transition from bulking to cutting slowly. You can literally pick a day and switch. Going from cutting back to bulking is different. You should spend about 2 weeks at maintenance before beginning the bulk; Then you begin slowly adding calories until you hit the optimal rate of weight gain which is 2 lbs a month for men and 1 lb a month for women.
    rageginger wrote: »
    1. Myfitnesspal of course. It wasn't until I began tracking my intake that my success really started to take off
    2. Understanding that "eating clean" is meaningless and that in order to have true life long success I had to eat foods I enjoyed (ice cream, cookies, etc) on a regular basis but in moderation

    #1 rings so true for me - it's been just over a month since I started truly tracking every single thing I eat and drink, and it's amazing to see the results of just being aware and making decisions based on that!

    #2 is a bit of a revelation to me, because I've been avoiding "treat" type foods, since I've had trouble in the past with going from a tiny bit of a treat to the entire box/carton of whatever it is. Moderation is key, and something that I'm going to learn going forward!

    Many people (myself included) struggle with the psychological side of this - learning to eat only *one* cookie rather than the whole pack, rationing out the Giant Chocolate Buttons etc. For this reason some people find it easier to lose weight by avoiding these things all together at first, sometimes slowly introducing them back into the diet later on, or not introducing them back at all. So while the clean eating thing is a myth from the point of view of physical health some people find it easier to maintain a healthy lifestyle by cutting out their food cocaine... :smile:
    While I accept that at first, certain people need to avoid certain foods for a period of time, I disagree that they should ever ban a food forever. The problem with simply never eating cookies to avoid binging is that cookies will eventually show up. Even if you never buy them, you'll eventually be faced with them and if you have banned them for such a long time, you may end up binging. I think every single person is quite capable of learning moderation. It's difficult at first, but like all things, with practice you can become proficient with it. I think ignoring the problem by banning a food, rather than working through the problem, is a mistake.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    jenj1313 wrote: »
    5 months and 60 pages of AMA... you're amazing!
    1 year and 5 months actually!

  • trossk2
    trossk2 Posts: 50 Member
    I read the first 30 pages or so (just until the same questions kept popping up), and I wanted to say thank you for doing this. I've learned quite a bit from your thread. Also, congrats on the phenomenal success you've had. It's very impressive.
  • AnewCarla
    AnewCarla Posts: 5 Member
    amazing transformation!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    trossk2 wrote: »
    I read the first 30 pages or so (just until the same questions kept popping up), and I wanted to say thank you for doing this. I've learned quite a bit from your thread. Also, congrats on the phenomenal success you've had. It's very impressive.
    Glad you found it useful!

  • ihab90
    ihab90 Posts: 50 Member
    Congrats man, you look awesome. Keep it up
  • es513
    es513 Posts: 51 Member
    edited November 2015
    I'm a 5'6 1/2 female and my SW was 270. I am now 200. I am eating around 1500 calories per day give or take some here and there, and I am also doing mostly just walking on an incline as running makes my max heart rate in the 200s.. If I start following the IIFYM and I start lifting.. I would need to increase my calories drastically but wouldn't this cause a gain? I just feel like 2000 calories (according to the video you linked) is way too much food.

    Also, did you track your HR during exercise? Did you ever feel like you were doing TOO much?
  • Shull_rachael
    Shull_rachael Posts: 430 Member
    edited November 2015
    You inspirer me!!!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    es513 wrote: »
    I'm a 5'6 1/2 female and my SW was 270. I am now 200. I am eating around 1500 calories per day give or take some here and there, and I am also doing mostly just walking on an incline as running makes my max heart rate in the 200s.. If I start following the IIFYM and I start lifting.. I would need to increase my calories drastically but wouldn't this cause a gain? I just feel like 2000 calories (according to the video you linked) is way too much food.

    Also, did you track your HR during exercise? Did you ever feel like you were doing TOO much?
    I believe I answered your first question on my youtube site. It's in the comment section of this video for anyone who wants to see: https://youtu.be/7cc18wLJW3k
    As far as heart rate monitors go, I usually do not wear them as I don't really care what my heart rate is during exercise. I do primarily weight lifting and it's fairly irrelevant what my heart rate is. You can certainly do too much exercise! This is more true when you are in a calorie deficit. For beginners for weight loss I usually suggest 3 days a week total body lifting, then 2-3 cardio sessions. If you do hiit, only 1 of the cardio sessions should be hiit. If you feel you are not recovering from workouts well (low energy, low motivation, sick feeling, etc) I'd reduce the cardio or reexamine how large your calorie deficit is.
  • RozyAmps
    RozyAmps Posts: 1 Member
    Hey! Thanks for your inspiration! Do u train clients through the process?
    Iam 5'7" F 252lbs, ~44% body fat. weight is distributed- pear shape. I've done weights before, but don't have a routine or program to follow.
    Where do u suggest I start?
  • Quitabanks
    Quitabanks Posts: 16 Member
    Do weight lifting help you lose weight faster?
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