No posts about alcohol consumption on here?
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Check out the book "Under The Influence".
13 years sober here
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Lets hope these suggestions serve lurkers who may be negotiating their weekly alcohol consumption! The OP already did say he's not interested in changing his drinking patterns0
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You say you're not ready to stop yet. But the thing is, lots and lots of people who drink like you do won't just wake up one day and decide they're ready to stop. Because right now, it is "fun" (I use fun subjectively because, objectively, what you do doesn't sound fun). Usually, a great deal of the time, they stop (if they stop at all) when drinking like that causes something to go horribly wrong. And sometimes that horribly wrong can be fixed and/or recovered from, but many many times it can't. Many times it can kill or permanently damage you, or someone around you, or cause ruinous effects that will stain the rest of your life.
Deciding to stop drinking like that doesn't come from a "meh, I'm not ready" point of view, it comes from a "what I'm doing it damaging and potentially very dangerous and the mature, adult thing to do would be to stop before it causes something disastrous". Because hindsight is a beyotch.0 -
I'd been a heavy drinker for about 15 years when I started taking yoga classes. I gradually lost the urge to self-medicate with alcohol. I also went to one or two each Smart Recovery and Rational Recovery meetings, which was a better fit for me than AA. I think yoga helped me not want and need to drink regularly and SR/RR helped me identify sabotaging thoughts that would have led me to drink episodically.
Fast forward many years and now I can drink moderately. I had a few drinks during the Superbowl, which was the first time since before Christmas. (I realize this does not work for everyone and I'm certainly not encouraging people who are successful with sobriety to experiment with this. I wanted to point out that for some people it doesn't have to be an all or nothing thing.)
I am much happier now than I was 20 years ago when alcohol controlled me and my social life revolved around drunken stupidity.0 -
Protranser wrote: »Lets hope these suggestions serve lurkers who may be negotiating their weekly alcohol consumption! The OP already did say he's not interested in changing his drinking patterns
I said I didn't want to stop as I see no need to other than the fitness thing, which is purely aesthetic. Just was asking if anyone found greater success with drinking+fitness is all. This was never meant to be an alcoholic/living standard/true happiness post... I have plenty of fun and don't do any of these "destructive" things others have talked about. I will stop at some point. It would be cool to know the number of drinks it took to black out tho. Perhaps an experiment is called for0 -
Protranser wrote: »Lets hope these suggestions serve lurkers who may be negotiating their weekly alcohol consumption! The OP already did say he's not interested in changing his drinking patterns
But yes haha. I hope it helps someone. Gave me some ideas on how to drink a bit healthier ha.
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n/t0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »rchlthompson wrote: »I can't really say anything that someone else hasn't said. I will however, offer my support. I quit drinking January 4th and haven't touched anything since. I had a pretty serious drinking habit (couple of bottles of vodka a week not including what I drank when I went out). It hasn't been easy, but it hasn't been as hard as I anticipated. I'm not saying I'll never drink again, but I won't drink until I feel I can do it in moderation.
I sincerely wish you luck, alcohol is a mean b!tch.
Yes but as most mean *kitten* they are a fun time if not in constant interaction with them.
From reading your responses in this thread, all I see are attempts to rationalize what you're doing. You've said yourself that you're not ready to quit and if that's the case, nothing anybody says here is going to do any good or make any sense to you. Some people learn the easy way, some people learn the hard way, some people never learn.
I again have created a confusing post I think. I was more or less looking for ways to drink and not gain "as much" body fat or lose "as much" muscle. I have gotten some valid ideas here on how to do that...don't know if they will work or not but I'm down to try and see....I think some peeps assumed that I thought I had some sort of problem and wanted to rid myself completely of the Devils sauce which was not my intention, still cool of everyone to help out tho and offer opinions. Interesting stuff.0 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »Am I the only one who blacks out each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday? This of course ruining everything I've done in the gym and the kitchen for the last 6 days? Any pointers, tips, ideas, etc?
AA?
Haha thanks homie.
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Splitbygreg wrote: »
By this logic-the heroin addict who is homeless due to his addiction is normal because it is normal for him to be chasing that high/spending money on drugs instead of a home.
Binge drinking can be a symptom of alcoholism. The fact that you say you CANT stop is indicative of it being a huge problem. It took a family member of mine 2 DUIs, a failed marriage and the state taking his children to realize that his binge drinking was an issue. He only drank on days off and for the most part held down a full time job. But when he drank, he would black out and was irresponsible. It got to the point his job let him go because of his second DUI.
Alcoholism is much more than just drinking everyday.
Gotcha. That is rough. And agreed that it involves more than consistency. I can't stop cause I can't gage when I'm drunk. I'm just sober and then the blackout. Meh idk momma try the set limit preload thing. This is more about diet than responsibility or growing up or whatever. Oh and no kids or family (blacking out around kids would not be cool mmmkay).
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emmycantbemeeko wrote: »By definition, you can't pre-log and out-exercise a blackout drinking binge- you're blacking out. Not only does that mean you're consuming far more calories than you can work off or "save" during the rest of the week to achieve that level of intoxication (especially if you've been doing this for a long time- it's likely you have a high tolerance and have to consume many more drinks than an alcohol-naive person to get the same symptoms of extreme intoxication). Who knows what else you're eating and drinking at the same time.
That said? The weight loss aspect is only the tiniest drop in the bucket of why you should stop this. The damage you're doing to your body is real and may be permanent, and the sooner you stop the better, to say nothing of what you're likely doing to your relationships. I work in an ER and I treat both young people who are maimed or dying from their own drinking or the drunken idiocy of others, and people, often not much older, who are dying (in profoundly painful, ugly, pitiful ways- ever seen an alcoholic with the shakes and what looks like a six-month pregnant belly from ascites hanging off their skinny, stinky frame?) from the long-term consequences of alcohol abuse.
Even if it feels normal to you, even if many people around you do it, binge drinking three days a week is absolutely alcohol abuse, and by persisting, you're on your way to cirrhosis, liver failure, malnutrition, gut bleeds, and brain damage sooner than you think, and hell, even the ever-present possibility of a fatal accident (fatal to you or someone else) during your next blackout. Are you cool with possibly dying every time you go on a binge? Because that happens. Every night, all over the world, people die of what you're doing. I'm one of the people who puts them in body bags and has to see their sobbing families.
That the excess calories from this behavior will eventually make you fat is true, but that's so far down on the list of why this is a terrible idea.
Heavy stuff. Yes I know alcohol can do more than just make one fat. My uncle actually had cirrhosis, liver failure and some sort of ulcers I think. He know doesn't drink or smoke. So yes I am aware it can be a gruesome thing. Thanks for sharing your stories tho. Sounds like you've seen some rough stuff0 -
Move out of the Midwest. All there is to do when it's this cold is drink.
Or, just keep drinking. For as many anecdotal relatives that have died from drinking in this thread, I know ones that are still alive--and still drinking. Wisconsin blood, perhaps. Alcohol consumption, even out of hand alcohol consumption, isn't a death sentence--though it definitely has that potential. I barely even had hangovers at 26... now it's a two-day recovery minimum for that type of drinking--which is why I plan for the calorie intake and the hangover in advance. Took me years to figure that one out.
Life is short. Yours may likely be shorter because you drink heavily. Figure out what's important to you and make your decisions from there.0 -
myfelinepal wrote: »Splitbygreg wrote: »
I'm guessing 'for as long as you can recall' is also a relative term in your case.
Had to read this twice haha. Quite clever indeed.
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Move out of the Midwest. All there is to do when it's this cold is drink.
Or, just keep drinking. For as many anecdotal relatives that have died from drinking in this thread, I know ones that are still alive--and still drinking. Wisconsin blood, perhaps. Alcohol consumption, even out of hand alcohol consumption, isn't a death sentence--though it definitely has that potential. I barely even had hangovers at 26... now it's a two-day recovery minimum for that type of drinking--which is why I plan for the calorie intake and the hangover in advance. Took me years to figure that one out.
Life is short. Yours may likely be shorter because you drink heavily. Figure out what's important to you and make your decisions from there.
That's the problem haha. Lived in Illinois and now Ohio. 4 months out of the year it's friggin Russia. Gah.0 -
I drink alot too, but I hardly black out0
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You must have a pretty thick skull. Drinking to blackout? BAD. BAD, BAD, BAD, not good at all, not cool, not funny, not anything except BAD. Your liver? Probably already shot. Your brain cells? Dying.
Come on, you're 26, you're supposed to have outgrown the idiot stage.0 -
"It would be cool to know the number of drinks it took to black out tho. Perhaps an experiment is called for"
^^^I find this concerning.
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You must have a pretty thick skull. Drinking to blackout? BAD. BAD, BAD, BAD, not good at all, not cool, not funny, not anything except BAD. Your liver? Probably already shot. Your brain cells? Dying.
Come on, you're 26, you're supposed to have outgrown the idiot stage.
I still gots plenty off bran sells...No wet brain yet. I agree, blacking out, not the healthiest of things.
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yourhiddengem wrote: »"It would be cool to know the number of drinks it took to black out tho. Perhaps an experiment is called for"
^^^I find this concerning.
No cause for concern. It's just good science!
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You obviously don't really care about this so I am not sure why I am bothering writing. If you are really here to try and figure out how to prevent blackouts, you need to drink less and/or more slowly. I would recommend measuring your alcohol before drinking it. If you drink hard alcohol (which I am guessing you probably are at that rate of blacking out), measure out a shot and then mix it was a lot of mixer, e.g. one shot of alcohol + tons of mixer. Drink as slowly as you can. If you are used to just pouring heavy handed and then gulping, this will be challenging. This can help prevent that instant switch over from 'I feel sober' to blacked out, as you will get drunk albeit more slowly. I am no saint when it comes to alcohol at all but even to me, blacking out three nights a week at your age is A LOT. You are still probably thinking you are young and in that 'just out of college phase' = it's fun! I hope that changes for you. A blackout drunk approaching 30 is pretty unattractive on so many levels. It seems you still think you're invincible even in the face of the overwhelming evidence provided in the forum. Good luck getting it together. And when you really do want help, reach out for supports.0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »You must have a pretty thick skull. Drinking to blackout? BAD. BAD, BAD, BAD, not good at all, not cool, not funny, not anything except BAD. Your liver? Probably already shot. Your brain cells? Dying.
Come on, you're 26, you're supposed to have outgrown the idiot stage.
I still gots plenty off bran sells...No wet brain yet. I agree, blacking out, not the healthiest of things.
Oat bran? Wheat bran? How much do you sell it for?
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I do this!
I'm super good all week...then my weekend ruins it all.
I weigh on a Friday/Saturday morning then by Monday ive put in 3-4 lbs and it takes me until the Wednesday-Thursday until I'm back to my weigh-in weight! (if that makes sense)
But I'm loosing slowly...and I'm SO not willing to give up my weekends!0 -
My tip would be to start acting and singing lessons, so that you'll be ready to audition for "The Simpsons - The Musical" (no body/facepaint will be needed).0
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I drink every weekend, a lot,,,, I work it all off during the week, easy, drinkers add me.0
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I have seen this attitude before--it sure changes when ***** hits the fan. Everythings cool huh? Just want exercise advice? Don't believe it for a second. Do something to really help yourself before the time comes when you don't wakeup.0
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Splitbygreg wrote: »rchlthompson wrote: »I can't really say anything that someone else hasn't said. I will however, offer my support. I quit drinking January 4th and haven't touched anything since. I had a pretty serious drinking habit (couple of bottles of vodka a week not including what I drank when I went out). It hasn't been easy, but it hasn't been as hard as I anticipated. I'm not saying I'll never drink again, but I won't drink until I feel I can do it in moderation.
I sincerely wish you luck, alcohol is a mean b!tch.
Yes but as most mean *kitten* they are a fun time if not in constant interaction with them.
Until the costs outweigh the benefits for you, I'm afraid you will carry on making excuses and convince yourself it's all great fun.
I suspect eventually you will lose friends, who will think someone blacking out for almost half of the week is neither amusing nor particularly clever. Eventually it may interfere with your employment, because you start coming in late on Mondays, then Tuesdays, then.... Eventually someone may tell you you may need a new liver...
I hope you find the motivation to take a good look at yourself and figure out what all this is *really* about and then seek help.0 -
I don't get why you are interested in health and nutrition or putting on weight - what do you want to be? a slim version of someone most people ignore?0
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