Does steam bath/ hot sauna help in reducing fat??
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minniesb69 wrote: »Sweat detoxifies pores, there are millions of pores on your skin, sauna's make you sweat, sauna's detoxify the skin. Easy peasy.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/sweat-it-out-5-surprising-health-benefits-sweating-actually-dont-stink-309718
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/fitness/exercises/sweating-why-its-good-for-you.html
http://www.drwhitaker.com/health-benefits-of-a-sauna/ "The primary benefits of a sauna is that it induces sweating. Although most of us go to great lengths to avoid sweating, perspiration has two essential functions: It cools you down, and it rids the body of waste products."
I have no life so I'm fine with going in circles. It'll take my mind off of eating
I guess when you said you had credible sources I thought you meant real credible sources and not GoogleU and the first articles you could find. Did you even read those? How does exercise intentisy have to do with sitting your butt in a steam room? Your first two articles (in your first post) have nothing to do with burning extra calories, actually the second actually contradicts your premise (from http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html):
"Health Benefits
Despite the elevated heart rate, soaking up heat in the sauna is not shown to have much benefit besides relaxation, according to Harvard Medical School. Running, on the other hand, burns serious calories for weight management, increases endurance, reduces heart-disease risk and improves immune function. Aerobic exercise is so important for your health that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructs all adults to get 75 to 150 minutes per week of vigorous cardio, like running, or 150 to 300 minutes per week of moderate cardio, like brisk walking or freestyle dancing."
So again you aren't proving anything. I'm not even going to read the last two since you aren't really showing that you understand the topic.
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snowflake930 wrote: »Great for your pores and a nice way to relax after a work out.
I would be all over this if my gym had one.
You know, I've always heard this but never understood how it could be good for your skin. Could someone explain this to me? I always assumed that in a sauna, you sweat. When I sweat my pores get all clogged up and I break out. I've got these big old pores on my nose and now that I'm working out more they seem to be constantly clogged.
I guess in my mind sauna=sweat. Sweat=clogged pores + bad skin0 -
In "my" wellness is a sign that say that in infra read sauna you loose about 300 calorie in one session... Now you said that this is not true? I’m a bit disappointed.
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queenliz99 wrote: »You would think obese folks with high resting heart rates would be thin but they are not
Well since you lose 1200-1300 by just being alive you would think everyone would be skinny but we arent. Why is that? INTAKE. It's highly probable that those people you describe are taking in double to triple the amount they ate supposed to. Plus, as I have stated and provided articles to state the same, heart rate without exercise has minimal affect. Sauna's has minimal affect the point is, it does have an affect0 -
sexymumma2015 wrote: »I am curious that after gym session should I invest my time in hot steam/sauna for weight loss??
Well, if you're in the sauna there will be less time available to over eat so...
Re: the whole raising your basal body temperature so your body burns calories fighting to regulate it downwards that is a negligible in terms of energy expenditure.0 -
minniesb69 wrote: »@minniesb69 I am pretty sure you didn't learn in middle school to get your science from women's magazines. This is where you get science.
https://scholar.google.ca
Just a gut response here but an increased heart rate while at rest will burn a few calories....from the heart working harder. But it will be negligible. I earn one cookie from my twenty minute early morning run. That's all my muscles working, including my big fat thigh muscles.
HAHA! I used the google scholar link you provided. It gave me this. It's a good read.
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/the-incredible-healing-power-of-infrared-saunas/1734/
You burn calories constantly, just living.
If any, a negligible amount more sitting in a sauna or steam room, but it feels good, and does open the pores.
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typos, typos everywhere! Sorry...I'm working while typing here0
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »minniesb69 wrote: »Sweat detoxifies pores, there are millions of pores on your skin, sauna's make you sweat, sauna's detoxify the skin. Easy peasy.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/sweat-it-out-5-surprising-health-benefits-sweating-actually-dont-stink-309718
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/fitness/exercises/sweating-why-its-good-for-you.html
http://www.drwhitaker.com/health-benefits-of-a-sauna/ "The primary benefits of a sauna is that it induces sweating. Although most of us go to great lengths to avoid sweating, perspiration has two essential functions: It cools you down, and it rids the body of waste products."
I have no life so I'm fine with going in circles. It'll take my mind off of eating
I guess when you said you had credible sources I thought you meant real credible sources and not GoogleU and the first articles you could find. Did you even read those? How does exercise intentisy have to do with sitting your butt in a steam room? Your first two articles (in your first post) have nothing to do with burning extra calories, actually the second actually contradicts your premise (from http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html):
"Health Benefits
Despite the elevated heart rate, soaking up heat in the sauna is not shown to have much benefit besides relaxation, according to Harvard Medical School. Running, on the other hand, burns serious calories for weight management, increases endurance, reduces heart-disease risk and improves immune function. Aerobic exercise is so important for your health that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructs all adults to get 75 to 150 minutes per week of vigorous cardio, like running, or 150 to 300 minutes per week of moderate cardio, like brisk walking or freestyle dancing."
So again you aren't proving a thing anything. I'm not even going to read the last two since you aren't really showing that you understand the topic.
Please go re-read my comment. I addressed everything you "caught me" on.0 -
Why are people so up in arms about this?! lol0
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minniesb69 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »minniesb69 wrote: »Sweat detoxifies pores, there are millions of pores on your skin, sauna's make you sweat, sauna's detoxify the skin. Easy peasy.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/sweat-it-out-5-surprising-health-benefits-sweating-actually-dont-stink-309718
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/fitness/exercises/sweating-why-its-good-for-you.html
http://www.drwhitaker.com/health-benefits-of-a-sauna/ "The primary benefits of a sauna is that it induces sweating. Although most of us go to great lengths to avoid sweating, perspiration has two essential functions: It cools you down, and it rids the body of waste products."
I have no life so I'm fine with going in circles. It'll take my mind off of eating
I guess when you said you had credible sources I thought you meant real credible sources and not GoogleU and the first articles you could find. Did you even read those? How does exercise intentisy have to do with sitting your butt in a steam room? Your first two articles (in your first post) have nothing to do with burning extra calories, actually the second actually contradicts your premise (from http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html):
"Health Benefits
Despite the elevated heart rate, soaking up heat in the sauna is not shown to have much benefit besides relaxation, according to Harvard Medical School. Running, on the other hand, burns serious calories for weight management, increases endurance, reduces heart-disease risk and improves immune function. Aerobic exercise is so important for your health that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructs all adults to get 75 to 150 minutes per week of vigorous cardio, like running, or 150 to 300 minutes per week of moderate cardio, like brisk walking or freestyle dancing."
So again you aren't proving a thing anything. I'm not even going to read the last two since you aren't really showing that you understand the topic.
Please go re-read my comment. I addressed everything you "caught me" on.
I think you are still confused as the relationship between HR and calories consumed. The two are only connected through oxegen consumption but that's not as easy as just measuring your HR as anyone who has used a HRM during anerobic exercise and lifting can tell you.0 -
snowflake930 wrote: »minniesb69 wrote: »@minniesb69 I am pretty sure you didn't learn in middle school to get your science from women's magazines. This is where you get science.
https://scholar.google.ca
Just a gut response here but an increased heart rate while at rest will burn a few calories....from the heart working harder. But it will be negligible. I earn one cookie from my twenty minute early morning run. That's all my muscles working, including my big fat thigh muscles.
HAHA! I used the google scholar link you provided. It gave me this. It's a good read.
http://www.cancerdefeated.com/the-incredible-healing-power-of-infrared-saunas/1734/
You burn calories constantly, just living.
If any, a negligible amount more sitting in a sauna or steam room, but it feels good, and does open the pores.
It's also great for relaxing those tight muscles after a good workout!
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It doesn't do anything but reduce water weight, but it's my favorite part of my after workout ritual.0
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Pores have only one position: open.0
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This scientific study says that sauna's help weight loss by detoxifying the body. Works from the inside out! I dont subscribe to this theory I just found it interesting that this is backed by science. Page 61 paragraph 2
http://www.clinicaleducation.org/wp-content/uploads/ifm_proceedings_low.pdf#page=56
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sexymumma2015 wrote: »I am curious that after gym session should I invest my time in hot steam/sauna for weight loss??
Only if it somehow keeps you within your calorie goals. Stress can be a factor in weight control so if it relieves stress it may help.0 -
Should I be specific and say unclogged instead of open @nilbogger? The pores are cleared, cleaned, like a drain getting jetted.0
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Found an "expert" that is saying the same thing I am. Since I used google to find it is it less credible? lol. It from the WebMD question & answer section...
Q: Do sauna's contribute to weight loss?
From Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist Mark Kaelin
A: The short answer is, no. Generally after time in a sauna you might go to the scale and see that the number is lower but that represents the water you lost from sweating and will increase as soon as you replace those lost fluids, Which you need to do so, you don't become dehydrated.
While being exposed to high temps can increase your metabolism and slightly increase the number of calories you burn this is only because your body is working to keep your temperature within normal ranges. Once, you leave the environment your metabolism will return to normal.
Bottom line, time spent in a sauna would be more effectively used to prepare a healthy meal or more exercise. That being said, if you enjoy time in the sauna, use it as a motivation tool. Reward yourself with some time in the sauna everytime you visit the gym.
http://answers.webmd.com/expert/50475/mark-kaelin-certified-strength-and-conditioning-specialist0 -
To feel good yes. But it doesn't work to reduce fat.KANGOOJUMPS wrote: »yep, so much for me, I went and bought a sauna and hot tub for my house., my best investments to date.
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minniesb69 wrote: »Should I be specific and say unclogged instead of open @nilbogger? The pores are cleared, cleaned, like a drain getting jetted.
Yes, of course you should be specific. Precise language is crucial to effective communication.0 -
Actually no it doesn't.minniesb69 wrote: »Steam rooms and saunas open the pores. Great for the skin. Also causes increased heart rate and improves blood circulation. It does indeed detoxify the skin and burns calories.
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No it's not. You won't find any toxins in sweat because the body doesn't produce it nor stores it.minniesb69 wrote: »Whaaa? Lol. Come on. This is very basic stuff. It's not the sauna itself its the act of sweating, open pores get cleared out whenever u sweat. Thats detoxing.
Anecdotes aren't evidence.My skin has a healthy glow after each sauna session.
The increase in heart rate doesn't mean calorie burn is significant. Heart rate increases during a scary movie. Are there any proven benefits to letting get your heart rate up to watch them?Body temp increase means heart rate increases...increased heart rate is increased calorie burn. It's not like im saying its a miracle worker...just the opposite, its basic biology. You wont lose more weight but there are proven benefits. I can provide credible sources if needed but I've seen no credible source disprove what I learned in middle school.
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Wheelhouse15 wrote: »minniesb69 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »minniesb69 wrote: »Sweat detoxifies pores, there are millions of pores on your skin, sauna's make you sweat, sauna's detoxify the skin. Easy peasy.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/sweat-it-out-5-surprising-health-benefits-sweating-actually-dont-stink-309718
http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/fitness/exercises/sweating-why-its-good-for-you.html
http://www.drwhitaker.com/health-benefits-of-a-sauna/ "The primary benefits of a sauna is that it induces sweating. Although most of us go to great lengths to avoid sweating, perspiration has two essential functions: It cools you down, and it rids the body of waste products."
I have no life so I'm fine with going in circles. It'll take my mind off of eating
I guess when you said you had credible sources I thought you meant real credible sources and not GoogleU and the first articles you could find. Did you even read those? How does exercise intentisy have to do with sitting your butt in a steam room? Your first two articles (in your first post) have nothing to do with burning extra calories, actually the second actually contradicts your premise (from http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html):
"Health Benefits
Despite the elevated heart rate, soaking up heat in the sauna is not shown to have much benefit besides relaxation, according to Harvard Medical School. Running, on the other hand, burns serious calories for weight management, increases endurance, reduces heart-disease risk and improves immune function. Aerobic exercise is so important for your health that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention instructs all adults to get 75 to 150 minutes per week of vigorous cardio, like running, or 150 to 300 minutes per week of moderate cardio, like brisk walking or freestyle dancing."
So again you aren't proving a thing anything. I'm not even going to read the last two since you aren't really showing that you understand the topic.
Please go re-read my comment. I addressed everything you "caught me" on.
I think you are still confused as the relationship between HR and calories consumed. The two are only connected through oxegen consumption but that's not as easy as just measuring your HR as anyone who has used a HRM during anerobic exercise and lifting can tell you.
No, Im not. thanks tho. From the same article I posted..the same one you just quoted, the same one that says saunas have no affect on calories... it also says that the affects of a sauna is like a slow jog. Are you telling me a slow jog burns no calories?
"The sauna won't get your blood flowing quite like a speedy sprint, but the pulse-raising effects may be similar to a slower jog in some cases."0 -
Don't rely on articles from magazines, blogs, or internet. How about a peer reviewed clinical study?minniesb69 wrote: »I will repeat, its not a miracle fat loss machine...its basic science. SCIENCE...the heart pumps the blood to transport the oxygen. They are part of the same cycle. You are saying the same thing. This article explains how the increased heart rate helps oxygen flow which in turn burns calories. http://healthyliving.azcentral.com/burn-calories-heart-beats-faster-8069.html My statement is correct, increased heart rate increases calorie burn. Simple science
Maybe you'll believe an anti-sauna article. This states that saunas are merely for relaxation and not much benefit besides that...yet it likens the increased heart rate from the sauna to "a slow jog" and makes the connection between heart rate and calories. Basically they are saying sauna isnt going to have the same affect and working out but it does something no matter how miniscule. It also says sauna's send oxygen to the skin. Which brings me to my next point... http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html
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Don't rely on articles from magazines, blogs, or internet. How about a peer reviewed clinical study?minniesb69 wrote: »I will repeat, its not a miracle fat loss machine...its basic science. SCIENCE...the heart pumps the blood to transport the oxygen. They are part of the same cycle. You are saying the same thing. This article explains how the increased heart rate helps oxygen flow which in turn burns calories. http://healthyliving.azcentral.com/burn-calories-heart-beats-faster-8069.html My statement is correct, increased heart rate increases calorie burn. Simple science
Maybe you'll believe an anti-sauna article. This states that saunas are merely for relaxation and not much benefit besides that...yet it likens the increased heart rate from the sauna to "a slow jog" and makes the connection between heart rate and calories. Basically they are saying sauna isnt going to have the same affect and working out but it does something no matter how miniscule. It also says sauna's send oxygen to the skin. Which brings me to my next point... http://woman.thenest.com/difference-heart-rate-between-running-sauna-19051.html
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It depends what magazine or internet site the article was in. You can often get better information from a reliable public health magazine or site than from individual studies.0 -
Over exaggerating isn't against the law. It's common in the fitness industry.In "my" wellness is a sign that say that in infra read sauna you loose about 300 calorie in one session... Now you said that this is not true? I’m a bit disappointed.
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Because the OP asked. Passing on misinformation to people who read it should be addressed.minniesb69 wrote: »Why are people so up in arms about this?! lol
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minniesb69 wrote: »Found an "expert" that is saying the same thing I am. Since I used google to find it is it less credible? lol. It from the WebMD question & answer section...
Q: Do sauna's contribute to weight loss?
From Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist Mark Kaelin
A: The short answer is, no. Generally after time in a sauna you might go to the scale and see that the number is lower but that represents the water you lost from sweating and will increase as soon as you replace those lost fluids, Which you need to do so, you don't become dehydrated.
While being exposed to high temps can increase your metabolism and slightly increase the number of calories you burn this is only because your body is working to keep your temperature within normal ranges. Once, you leave the environment your metabolism will return to normal.
Bottom line, time spent in a sauna would be more effectively used to prepare a healthy meal or more exercise. That being said, if you enjoy time in the sauna, use it as a motivation tool. Reward yourself with some time in the sauna everytime you visit the gym.
http://answers.webmd.com/expert/50475/mark-kaelin-certified-strength-and-conditioning-specialist
Web MD is about as credible a source as Dr. Oz. <eye rolly>0 -
minniesb69 wrote: »This scientific study says that sauna's help weight loss by detoxifying the body. Works from the inside out! I dont subscribe to this theory I just found it interesting that this is backed by science. Page 61 paragraph 2
http://www.clinicaleducation.org/wp-content/uploads/ifm_proceedings_low.pdf#page=56
The idea that detoxing the body to remove weight stems from an unsound conception of why weight happens. We don't gain weight because simply because we are unhealthy, we become unhealthy as we gain weight.0 -
I guess I should be upset that I didn't lose any weight when I was severely anaemic and tachycardic and my rhr was 140 for months. All day, all night cardio in the fat burning zone 0
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