Ketosis Diet
jaistrong00
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A ketosis diet is a high fat, moderate protein, low to no carb diet. I just recently started this diet as well as intermittent fasting (which I've done in the past and have had good results that stayed off!)! I know so many people will probably give me flak for this but since Monday (3/21) I've lost 7 pounds! Most was probably water weight but possibly not! I've also started doing 30 minutes on my elliptical - I don't track speed, distance, or calories burned. I work on the 3rd floor and have only taken the stairs all week.
I want to know if there are any people on here that have tried this diet and if it has worked for you! If you're interested in doing this diet with me add me or msg me and we can talk about it together. I've done a lot of research on this and so far so good! I've had great results and energy!
I want to know if there are any people on here that have tried this diet and if it has worked for you! If you're interested in doing this diet with me add me or msg me and we can talk about it together. I've done a lot of research on this and so far so good! I've had great results and energy!
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I'm doing <50 carbs right now, started on almost the same day you did, and have lost 6 pounds since then, probably mostly water weight like you said. But now, time to start burning and losing fat! Let's become fat burning machines! I'm starting keto next month, and we're doing a challenge in the low carb group if you want to join us. There are quite a few people in the group who have overcome morbid obesity, serious health problems, etc, who are having long term success.0
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Hi. I am trying to work towards it.. Got as low as 50ish carbs ( I think..hafta check ) Awesome results! Very difficult though as I just switched from Bulking0
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Low carb dieting can be super hard especially coming from eating what you want or even from another diet! Really counting carbs is an eye opener. I've set my nutrition goal to 5% carbs which is about 13 grams I think 70% fat and 25% protein. They say for the keto diet you want 25 grams or less of carbs but I'm aiming for optimal ketosis. They reason you don't want too much protein is because it will turn into glucose and will stop ketosis. Ketosis is when your body actually starts using fat as energy instead of using the sugar from carbs!!0
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Here's a group: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1143-keto
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Good for you!
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I'm trying this too! I'm only eating vegetables now but still need to lower my carbs a bit. I'm also reading "eat fat get thin" on the nyt best seller list now.
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I'm intrigued by this way of eating, but I'm not sure I could do it. Fruit is such an important part of my diet. I eat apples and bananas every day. It's hard to fit those in with such a low amount of carbs. Plus if you don't do it forever, how does it affect your weight when you stop and get out of ketosis?0
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Yeah, most of those 7 pounds is water weight, that's normal. If it worked that well for losing fat I'd be doing it too even though I hated it when I tried back in the day. But you can't fool physics and your body just isn't going to lose 24500 kcal worth of energy for no particular reason.
Also your body will use bodyfat for energy if you're in a deficit regardless if it's in keto or not.
Also also, at 25 grams of carbs or less please pay attention to your vegetable intake, good nutrition is important.0 -
Cutting out fruits is really hard for me too! That's where I got most of my sweet cravings out of the way with. But there are alternatives to every diet. The keto diet is a life style change just like with any diet, if you were to get off it and start eating poorly I'm sure you would gain the weight back, if you got off it and continued a healthy diet you body would just switch from burning the fat for energy to burning the sugars and carbs for energy.
Steven, there is no doubt in my mind that most of it was water weight but this diet has been around since before the 1920s for overweight and diabetic people. Just like with any diet I would suggest people do their research and learn what is best for them. I myself will always take nutrition into consideration and never just eat a pound of bacon for breakfast lunch and dinner because I know it's no carbs and high fats
lol. So with anyone considering this diet, make sure to do extensive research on the foods you can and cannot eat and how to incorporate good nutritional value into the high fat low carb diet! 1 -
I did keto a few years back to drop 30lbs. It worked for sure but it's important to limit your saturated fat intake on this diet. I loaded up on spinach salads with olive oil vinaigrettes I made with very low carb counts and at the time I was an ovo vegetarian so I ate lots of eggs and used unsweetened soy milk in my coffee. I aimed for 50%+ of my carbs to be from vegetables and made sure I consumed lots of sodium. Leafy greens are important so eat them with every meal. If you want fruit eat berries, they're lower in carbs than other fruits and still tasty. Don't use coconut oil for everything you cook in oil, aim for olive oil for non cooked foods and avocado oil for cooked foods. I now switched over to a high carb low fat lifestyle as keto never fully agreed with my stomach even after I did it for 6 months but low fat foods feel better in my body. You can lose weight either way, just do what makes you feel best.0
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FYI when I was actively low-carbing, it was kinda fun to test actual ketones level. There are several options but I cut Ketostix in half.
Fats and saturated fats are good for you, unless you are missing a gall bladder. Then maybe.0 -
I tried it and it was too hard to follow (failed).
Now I'm on a whole foods, plant based diet, and love it. High in good carbs with lots of fiber.
Know that there are always options.
It's all about staying within your calories.
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I've been on a ketogenic diet for about 9-10 months. I've found that the diet was very helpful for weight loss. i lost close to 40 lbs in 4 months to get to within pounds of my goal weight without a large caloric defict. It also helped me feel better, added energy, improved cognition, improved insulin resistance and reactive hypoglycemia. For some people, a ketogenic diet really works wonders, and I am luckily one of those people.
You probably did lose some water weight because carbs causes people to retain water. As a general rule it is only 2-4 pounds though. Not much. Because you are losing water be aware that your electrolytes may be thrown out of balance. Most people on a ketogenic diet need at least 3000-5000 mg of sodium per day. Drink boullion or a teaspoon of salt in your water, salt your foods, or supplement with salt tablets. If you get fatigued, brain fog, muscle aches or spasms, or headaches or nausea, it means your electrolytes are off. You may need extra potassium and magnesium if symptoms persist for a while.
Most people don't need to worry about satrated fats. They are healthy fats. Just avoid your trans fats and try to limit vegetable oils and you will have a healthy fat basis for your diet. It sounds like you are well on your way.
Not many people on the main forums do keto, or know much about it. Consider joining the Low Carber Daily group to find more ketofiles and support. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group0 -
I have been on Keto ~10 weeks, and doing 16:8 fasting ~3 weeks. I worked my way into this way of eating over months, slowly weening myself off of processed and refined foods, sugars, bad oils, plus adding more and more fresh whole veggies, good fats, and exercising. At around four months range I then started to drop the carbs, reduce the fruit a bit, and finally decided to try low carb/high fat - which I now love! Gave up wheat and all grains 100 too. I don't do super low carb as I want plenty of veggies and a bit of fruit with my yogurt, but that doesn't keep me from achieving optimal Ketosis range.
Adding the 16:8 three weeks ago while eating the same foods seems to have an added weight loss benefit. It is way too early for results but so far I'm losing about ~1/2 a pound per week more now. I really like the 16:8 as I enjoy having two larger meals instead of three smaller ones. After 6 months of trying to get healthy, I feel like I have found the right zone for me. I've lost 65 pounds in total over 6 months, with 32 of it since starting Keto 10 weeks ago.0 -
Keto going on 3 months! Almost 40 pounds gone. Very happy eating this way!0
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I heard about keto about 2 months ago. I slowly eased into this... every other day and now Monday through Friday. Slowly as it is very difficult to cut carbs that much that fast. I've had very good results so far. Maybe 7 lbs lost but I really want to do this. I need help with recipes and friends who are going through this.0
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To be truthful I had never heard of this diet before I came on here but on my doctor's advise due to severe allergies I was told to eat only natural foods which I have been doing for the last two weeks. I don't eat chicken or red meat but I do eat fish and eggs and only use olive oil in cooking and unsweetened soya milk. I can tolerate fat free greek yoghurt which I enjoy with berries for breakfast and I also eat plenty of green vegetables with my evening meal. If any of you lovely people have any recipes you would like to share I would be very grateful, also feel free to add me as a friend.0
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Have any of you on this diet seen a doctor before starting and during? I only ask because having been in ketosis during pregnancy due to hyperemesis (severe sickness) I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to poison their body with ketones or risk the possible life-long effects of that poisoning (I haven't got a gallbladder now and actually have to severely limit fats) unless it was prescribed for something even worse (such as intractable epilepsy).0
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Long term (5+ years) effects of "poisoning" myself seem rather stellar...all labs within normal limits or better with the exception of Blood Urea Nitrogen & Vitamin D, which are hardly purely keto induced. Just some minor tweaks increasing water intake & lowering protein. Biggest actual concern is nephrolithiasis & electrolyte abnormalities, stunted growth...not for pediatrics.
You are poisoning yourself so to speak if doing keto with hyperemesis & even moreso without a gallbladder. Steatosis sounds quite unpleasant0 -
Long term (5+ years) effects of "poisoning" myself seem rather stellar...all labs within normal limits or better with the exception of Blood Urea Nitrogen & Vitamin D, which are hardly purely keto induced. Just some minor tweaks increasing water intake & lowering protein. Biggest actual concern is nephrolithiasis & electrolyte abnormalities, stunted growth...not for pediatrics.
You are poisoning yourself so to speak if doing keto with hyperemesis & even moreso without a gallbladder. Steatosis sounds quite unpleasant
Think you misunderstood me. My body went in to ketosis because of the hyperemesis, there's no way I would want to deliberately put myself in that state, and the gallstones were a direct result of the combination of rapid weight loss and ketosis. There's no way I can even think about going on the keto diet, even if I didn't hate how ketosis makes me feel (don't forget ketones are actually the potentially toxic result of your body burning it's fat stores), I cannot tolerate a high fat diet, the results are more than a little dramatic and very unpleasant.
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Long term (5+ years) effects of "poisoning" myself seem rather stellar...all labs within normal limits or better with the exception of Blood Urea Nitrogen & Vitamin D, which are hardly purely keto induced. Just some minor tweaks increasing water intake & lowering protein. Biggest actual concern is nephrolithiasis & electrolyte abnormalities, stunted growth...not for pediatrics.
You are poisoning yourself so to speak if doing keto with hyperemesis & even moreso without a gallbladder. Steatosis sounds quite unpleasant
Think you misunderstood me. My body went in to ketosis because of the hyperemesis, there's no way I would want to deliberately put myself in that state, and the gallstones were a direct result of the combination of rapid weight loss and ketosis. There's no way I can even think about going on the keto diet, even if I didn't hate how ketosis makes me feel (don't forget ketones are actually the potentially toxic result of your body burning it's fat stores), I cannot tolerate a high fat diet, the results are more than a little dramatic and very unpleasant.
Are you sure you're not mistaking Ketosis for Ketoacidiosis? That's two different things.0 -
Long term (5+ years) effects of "poisoning" myself seem rather stellar...all labs within normal limits or better with the exception of Blood Urea Nitrogen & Vitamin D, which are hardly purely keto induced. Just some minor tweaks increasing water intake & lowering protein. Biggest actual concern is nephrolithiasis & electrolyte abnormalities, stunted growth...not for pediatrics.
You are poisoning yourself so to speak if doing keto with hyperemesis & even moreso without a gallbladder. Steatosis sounds quite unpleasant
Think you misunderstood me. My body went in to ketosis because of the hyperemesis, there's no way I would want to deliberately put myself in that state, and the gallstones were a direct result of the combination of rapid weight loss and ketosis. There's no way I can even think about going on the keto diet, even if I didn't hate how ketosis makes me feel (don't forget ketones are actually the potentially toxic result of your body burning it's fat stores), I cannot tolerate a high fat diet, the results are more than a little dramatic and very unpleasant.
Keto diet would be contraindicated for you.
However, if done correctly, a keto diet is fine for many and not an issue. Ketones are no more a poison than high glucose, high salt, high water, high oxygen. Any metabolite at normal concentrations becomes toxic at extremes.
And I say this as someone who does not and will not EVER practice a keto diet - I do fine without, like to focus on endurance and enjoy carbs. But as a WoE it is fine for many many people.
We normally produce ketones all the time (at a relatively low level), if you have a normal eating pattern with large periods of no eating you'll see regular increases. The regular overnight 12-14 hrs 'fasts' results in 3x increase in production which is a mild ketosis. Everyone pretty much experiences that.
If you exercise, we then see post exercise ketosis that is actually higher ketone levels than the goal of people on a keto diet.
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I'm currently doing it. I've maintained ketosis for 10 days now with my net carbs having gone as high as 50g. I love it. I also do IF during the week of 18:6 and then for some variety, do a 24hr fast from dinner Friday until dinner Saturday and then I have breakfast at breakfast time on Sunday, skip lunch, then dinner, then back to my 18:6 fast. It's working well for me so far and between LCHF and now switching to Ketosis I've lost 15lbs total in 6 weeks, a total that I am very happy with.
I try to eat as many whole foods as possible and don't rely on packaged foods. It's also a pretty easy WOE to follow if you eat out a lot. Feel free to take a peek at my diary.
I've done well in the past with this WOE. Last year I was doing really well but fell off the wagon in August. By November I was having emergency surgery to have my gallbladder removed and 2 months later I was diagnoses with Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. Seeing as how when I had blood work done last May when I was on plan and all my levels are perfect, I directly attribute my gallbladder and liver issues to the good ole SAD. Now that I am back to eating LCHF my blood work is already starting to improve, along with a myriad of other good things happening to my body.
Truth be told, you probably won't get a lot of keto-love on these boards, but definitely check out the group linked above, a lot of very supportive people there.
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Have any of you on this diet seen a doctor before starting and during? I only ask because having been in ketosis during pregnancy due to hyperemesis (severe sickness) I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to poison their body with ketones or risk the possible life-long effects of that poisoning (I haven't got a gallbladder now and actually have to severely limit fats) unless it was prescribed for something even worse (such as intractable epilepsy).
Are you sure you don't mean ketoacidosis?
But yes, my GI doctor was actually the one who suggested that I follow a LCHF diet. I don't have a Gallbladder and have been diagnosed with NAFLD and he 100% supports this WOE as losing weight is extremely important for me.0 -
Have any of you on this diet seen a doctor before starting and during? I only ask because having been in ketosis during pregnancy due to hyperemesis (severe sickness) I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to poison their body with ketones or risk the possible life-long effects of that poisoning (I haven't got a gallbladder now and actually have to severely limit fats) unless it was prescribed for something even worse (such as intractable epilepsy).
Ketones aren't poison.0 -
Started this process last Sunday. Eating 2200 calories, 5% carbs, 75% fats and 20% protein. Lost 5 pounds first 4 days and then went to my son's house for Easter. Decided to just try to moderate and eat whatever they served. Felt awful and gained 3 pounds back. On the wagon again today and back to tracking. Next time we visit I will stay the course. Weather I just lost water or not does not matter, the water had to go away. Drinking between 80 & 100 ounces of water daily.0
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stevencloser wrote: »Long term (5+ years) effects of "poisoning" myself seem rather stellar...all labs within normal limits or better with the exception of Blood Urea Nitrogen & Vitamin D, which are hardly purely keto induced. Just some minor tweaks increasing water intake & lowering protein. Biggest actual concern is nephrolithiasis & electrolyte abnormalities, stunted growth...not for pediatrics.
You are poisoning yourself so to speak if doing keto with hyperemesis & even moreso without a gallbladder. Steatosis sounds quite unpleasant
Think you misunderstood me. My body went in to ketosis because of the hyperemesis, there's no way I would want to deliberately put myself in that state, and the gallstones were a direct result of the combination of rapid weight loss and ketosis. There's no way I can even think about going on the keto diet, even if I didn't hate how ketosis makes me feel (don't forget ketones are actually the potentially toxic result of your body burning it's fat stores), I cannot tolerate a high fat diet, the results are more than a little dramatic and very unpleasant.
I think she may have confused hyperemesis symptoms with symptoms of ketosis. I had very severe morning sickness and felt horrible and lost 10-15 lbs in the first few months of pregnancy too. I have no doubt that gall stones were developed but she was probably prone to them - they happened during ketosis but not necessarilly because of ketosis.
Are you sure you're not mistaking Ketosis for Ketoacidiosis? That's two different things.
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My friend is doing keto, his bathroom smells fierce at all times. No thank you.0
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galgenstrick wrote: »My friend is doing keto, his bathroom smells fierce at all times. No thank you.
What is Leto? I'm assuming that is a typo. And if your friend is having severe GI issues, I would recommend that he see a doctor as that is not a common side effect of Keto.
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michelle172415 wrote: »galgenstrick wrote: »My friend is doing keto, his bathroom smells fierce at all times. No thank you.
What is Leto? I'm assuming that is a typo. And if your friend is having severe GI issues, I would recommend that he see a doctor as that is not a common side effect of Keto.
Perhaps, but if he's doing Keto, then I doubt he would listen to what his doctor had to say...0
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