interesting Points regarding Diet Pop from my trainer

I used to drink nothing but Diet Dr Pepper. It seemed impossible for me to eat within my calorie range. I cut out all of them except for the occasional one. Now if I drink even one artificially sweetened drink I having cravings so bad that I just can't seem to control my eating.

I don't have "scientific proof" but I know for a fact what the artificial sweeteners do to me. I really don't expect to see any kind of proof due to the fact that the companies that manufacture these sweeteners have millions and millions of dollars to stop it.

We really have to be proactive about our own health and use common sense about what we put in our bodies. It's our responsibility.

sorry reg soda is way too sweet for me. Ill stick to my occasional diet soda. and btw....

just because someone is a personal trainer does not mean you should take their advice. I know a trainer who is type 1 diabetic, bodybuilds does steroids and is now dying from heart complications caused by poor management of the diabetes and the use of steroids. Not someone I would look to to tell me how to live.

I wouldnt take advice from the personal trainer you are talking about either - but some do more more then others and know more then the average person also.

I don't drink diet pop but once in awhile - maybe once a month i will have a reg gingerale or some coke in my rum.

No one is telling anyone to stop drinking pop or stop using artificial sweeteners - this is just someones opinions whether you want to agree or not is totally upto you - no one is telling you yes this is the true facts and to stop drinking pop now - the choice is yours and yours only.

So funny how there are always the ones who have to disagree on everything!

You're right--whether or not someone wants to disagree is absolutely up to the individual. Not anyone else. And that disagreement can and should be openly expressed if so desired, if done without rancor or inflammatory language. Preferably without resulting in a label of "disagreeable."

<insert big smile>

Kris

The second red flag is the fact that artificial sweeteners were made in a scientific lab by people who configured a chemical substance to taste like sugar. That's disgusting when you actually think about it. Not only should these two facts be alarming alone, but why would you want to put something in your body that is fake, just to save a couple calories? Our bodies are supposed to be the temples that we live through.

And so are many of the drugs you'll take throughout your life, the plants and animals you'll eat each day... So much scaremongering about food really makes me mad...

I'll drink diet drinks to my little hearts content... Rather that than sugar filled non diet drinks!!

The ADA is in the diabetes buisness, if you no longer have diabetes they are out of buisness. I used to work at ADA processing thier charitable gifts ( from Tour de Cure etc..) and they recieve MILLIONS of dollars from companys like Smuckers, Mars, Coke etc. They also used to hold 'ice cream and pizza parties for thier staff. After working there I have taken everything they say with a grain of salt.

ROFL, okay. And the AACE is in the business of thrashing our endocrine systems? The APA is in the business of keeping people mentally ill, and hospitals are in the business of keeping people sick? How about the CDC? Are they willfully misinforming us in order to perpetuate our ailments? The American Cancer Society--they looking to keep our cancer rates up in order to keep themselves in business?

What about trainers? They're in business, too--often, they're in the business of handing out medical information without a scrap of qualification, and getting paid a lot for it. What happens to trainers if everyone gets slim and fit? Hmm.

Again--science trumps pop-nutrition. And conspiracy theories. And, for the record, I used to "process charitable gifts" for St. Jude's, Save the Children, and the American Red Cross. Doesn't make me any sort of insider. Just means I answered phones and tapped in numbers.

Kris

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies). That includes what's in cigarettes, drugs, and anything artifically colored or flavored or preserved. Does anyone know for sure what the effects of all these chemicals are on our health and our environment? Since no one can 100% guarantee me that they are absolutely safe, I can easily do without. If I want to take risks, I'll skydive.

I have to say, I'm with you on this - I have arthritis and any artificial, processed foods including sweeteners absolutley kill me!! But then so do normal sugars, gluten and alcohol

I always say, don’t drink or eat anything that says “Diet” on it, it will make you fat. Ever see a skinny person drinking diet pop? I rest my case.

Actually, most of the skinny people I know drink diet soda. I lost 135 lbs in high school drinking diet soda, and I kept the weight off for 8 years (while continuing to drink diet soda). And the reason you see fat people drinking it is not because it made them fat, but because they're trying to lose weight (and, sadly, often think that giving up sugary sodas is all they have to do to achieve that goal).

I've read the essays on the evils of diet sodas. I've also read the American Diabetes Association's, the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists', and the CDC's positions on diet sodas. I'll take science over woo-woo pop-nutrition any day. I'm diabetic, I need to go for the factual stuff.

Ultimately, go with what's working for you. If diet sodas seem to make you crave more sweets or don't work for you in your weight loss scheme, then definitely ditch them. But there's no need to demonize them--they work for many of us.

Kris

What she said (except about being diabetic)

#3. Healthy sugar replacements: Natural honey, 100% pure maple syrup

hahaha, ok...replace sugar with...sugar?

Honey and PURE maple syrup are natural and unrefined sugars and are good for you to use to replace REFINED sugar with. Its in all of the clean eating books.

I don't know, man. Granulated sugar is just boiled cane (unless it comes from a beet, etc), that has been dried, and filtered (possibly through a bed of activated carbon). Honey is nectar that been repeatedly eaten and thrown up by bees. And this is from a guy that eats a lot of bee puke (i perfer agave, but honey is good in greek yogurt).

Well color me interested.

#2. Aspartame is being linked to MS, Lupus and Parkinson's disease. I know a couple people that have MS through friends and family - they all have, or still do, drink diet pop. Here's a link to learn more. http://www.healthy-holistic-living.com/aspartame-poison.html http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-information.html

Even if the whole of this article is the truth THIS part is just ridiculous. So this person knows some friends of friends with MS who drink diet pop. Well, that must be the reason then, eh? What a stupid statement to make, and IMO offensive to anyone with MS or anyone who knows and loves anyone with MS.

I think everyone should just do what works for them.

I always say, don’t drink or eat anything that says “Diet” on it, it will make you fat. Ever see a skinny person drinking diet pop? I rest my case.

This comment in addition to the trainers comment about it makes you fat and keeps you fat are opinions. I weighed 100 lbs at 5'6" and had mostly muscle mass and drank diet pop quite regularly. Now do I think its good for me? No. Will it cause you weight gain? Probably not depending if you are rationalizing all the other foods you are eating around the diet pop or not. The actual drinking of the diet pop won't make you gain. I also think people's bodies respond differently to the chemicals.

ETA: why the h*ll did I just post to a thread that was a year old??? How do these things get resurrected?

There is no logical difference between "artificial" and "natural". A chemical is a chemical. Everything, you, your furniture, ALL of your food, etc. etc. is made up of chemicals. There is no moral difference between a chemical that "nature" put the molecules together for and a chemical that a human put the molecules together for. There is not a lot of real medical, peer reviewed, non "holistic" research to support most of these claims.

For me, it's the "chemical" thing. I have zero interest in putting chemicals into my body (or my children's bodies)...

This thread is waaay too old, but I found a pic I thought was relevant.



AAAARGH! CHEMICALS!!!!

I'm particularly scared of Dihydrogen Monoxide, that stuff can be lethal!!