Welcome to Debate Club! Please be aware that this is a space for respectful debate, and that your ideas will be challenged here. Please remember to critique the argument, not the author.
Diet soda and weight loss?
Replies
-
_ankylosaurus_ wrote: »So I have a huge diet soda habit and a friend at work insists that despite being 0 calories, diet soda is negatively impacting my weight loss.
Thoughts?
I highly agree. 1st that fake sugar they put in it is horrible for you. But most importantly, the sodium they use to flavor it is so bad for your heart and causes you to swell. That's what causes water retention, and 'causes your kidneys to over work because it's something that's not natural for us. Water would be your best bet, and believe me I know what soda withrawal feels like, I was a soda addict too. Loved my soda, and once in a blue I sneak in a soda and it's the equivalent of eating an amazin piece of cake for me when i drink it. Cause of that feeling, i had to ban it from my house. You'll feel that prob for the 1st week or 2 but it really does get easier. If you don't feel you can quit, maybe you can just challenge yourself not to drink it for 1 or 2 weeks and see how you feel at the end of that. Wish you the best with this.
There
is
no
sodium
added.
None.
Nada.
Zero.
6 -
I'll let you kids continue to believe the "science" that you all have come to know. I don't consume it. I used to, I used to love soda. But after losing 135 pounds, I decided it wasn't worth my health. I don't want to bother arguing, because I've learned that I can lay out facts, and no matter what I present...it won't change your minds. SO continue drinking it. I'll stick to my water and coffee.3
-
Yeah the sodium argument is super weird.
It has 40 mg of sodium. A teaspoon of salt has 2325 mg of sodium.
When I toss a pinch of salt on my vegetables when cooking them, that has to be more than 40 mg of sodium, then.-1 -
I know everyone keeps saying that you can still lose weight drinking diet soda, and that is true, but there's something more important to that than losing weight. It's the fact that it messes with your kidneys over time. All that sodium is really bad for your kidneys to process and for your heart. I found this link online about how diet soda can affect your kidneys if anyone is interested.
https://kidney.org/news/kidneyCare/spring10/DietSoda1 -
_ankylosaurus_ wrote: »So I have a huge diet soda habit and a friend at work insists that despite being 0 calories, diet soda is negatively impacting my weight loss.
Thoughts?
I highly agree. 1st that fake sugar they put in it is horrible for you. But most importantly, the sodium they use to flavor it is so bad for your heart and causes you to swell. That's what causes water retention, and 'causes your kidneys to over work because it's something that's not natural for us. Water would be your best bet, and believe me I know what soda withrawal feels like, I was a soda addict too. Loved my soda, and once in a blue I sneak in a soda and it's the equivalent of eating an amazin piece of cake for me when i drink it. Cause of that feeling, i had to ban it from my house. You'll feel that prob for the 1st week or 2 but it really does get easier. If you don't feel you can quit, maybe you can just challenge yourself not to drink it for 1 or 2 weeks and see how you feel at the end of that. Wish you the best with this.
Where in my profile picture do you see large amounts of 'swelling'? I drink several cans of diet soda a day, have a bmi of 20.7, and I'm also at a very low risk for heart disease per the health markers my doctor goes by. And my kidneys work just fine.
Oiy, the things people come up with
0 -
I know everyone keeps saying that you can still lose weight drinking diet soda, and that is true, but there's something more important to that than losing weight. It's the fact that it messes with your kidneys over time. All that sodium is really bad for your kidneys to process and for your heart. I found this link online about how diet soda can affect your kidneys if anyone is interested.
https://kidney.org/news/kidneyCare/spring10/DietSoda
As covered above (are you not reading the other posts?), all WHAT sodium?2 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »I'll let you kids continue to believe the "science" that you all have come to know. I don't consume it. I used to, I used to love soda. But after losing 135 pounds, I decided it wasn't worth my health. I don't want to bother arguing, because I've learned that I can lay out facts, and no matter what I present...it won't change your minds. SO continue drinking it. I'll stick to my water and coffee.
K. I'll leave you to the non-science that you believe instead of the actual science that says you're wrong because of literal DECADES of research and thousands of studies.8 -
I know everyone keeps saying that you can still lose weight drinking diet soda, and that is true, but there's something more important to that than losing weight. It's the fact that it messes with your kidneys over time. All that sodium is really bad for your kidneys to process and for your heart. I found this link online about how diet soda can affect your kidneys if anyone is interested.
https://kidney.org/news/kidneyCare/spring10/DietSoda
But there isn't "so much sodium" in diet soda...2 -
Just for fun:
Deadly dose of aspartame: over 10g/kg
https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/htdocs/gmm_rpts/gmm1.pdf
Table Salt: 3 g/kg
Caffeine: 0.2 g/kg
http://ei.cornell.edu/teacher/pdf/ATR/ATR_Chapter1_X.pdf
2 -
-
-
Dem chemicals tho.
Anyone remember when 'chemicals' first became the latest trendy scapegoat by people who like to pretend they're down wit da science? I mean we've got this and toxins, sugar, bad carbs, bad fat, processed food, white flour, cholesterol, hormones in milk...with all of these things out there which apparently hurt our body I'm surprised the Western population hasn't been wiped out. Bring on Skynet, because we're clearly invincible.1 -
All these "chemicals" that are suppose to be killing us, how come I don't see dead bodies everywhere?1
-
-
alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.1 -
I know everyone keeps saying that you can still lose weight drinking diet soda, and that is true, but there's something more important to that than losing weight. It's the fact that it messes with your kidneys over time. All that sodium is really bad for your kidneys to process and for your heart. I found this link online about how diet soda can affect your kidneys if anyone is interested.
https://kidney.org/news/kidneyCare/spring10/DietSoda
Did you read the other posts in the thread regarding sodium?
It has about the same amount of sodium as tap water.1 -
I drink 2 a day, and it has had no effect on my 75+ pound weight loss.2
-
-
positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.1 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.
The bolded are my thoughts exactly!
2 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.
I seriously just laughed out loud reading this-hun, just stop while you're ahead.
https://wildfoodism.com/2014/01/28/the-chemicals-in-a-blueberry/
"There are many more chemicals found within a blueberry, in addition to the ones listed....
True, the naturally occurring chemicals listed on the poster are probably found in a (cultivated) blueberry. Kennedy derived his list from nutrition analyses, botany books, and peer-reviewed chemical analyses. But does it represent all the chemicals found in a blueberry? Most likely not. Researchers are constantly discovering and isolating new chemicals to the extent that technology allows....
Food is more than the sum total of its chemicals.
The list of ingredients in a blueberry hints at reductionist philosophy, implying that a complex system can be understood completely in terms of its individual parts. Surely we cannot believe that a blueberry is solely Kennedy’s list of chemical ingredients....
Overall, Kennedy’s work to introduce his students to the world of organic chemistry is compelling, and he makes a great point: chemicals are not simply the products of science experiments performed in the lab. They are found in the water we drink, the air we breathe, and the food we eat."
eta: there's other sites that talk about the chemical makeup of blueberries, this was just the first one I found. All food is made up of chemicals. It's sad that so many people are uneducated about this.10 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.
Lol - that IS the chemical makeup of all blueberries... Knowledge fail, bro.12 -
In my personal experience, the more sweet/salt and hyper-palability I add to my foods, the more likely I am to over-eat or crave things, even when I'm not hungry. This applies to MIO in water and stevia too. This doesn't apply to everyone and diet soda is fine, but if you have trouble with distinguishing hunger from pleasure, perhaps the artificial sweeteners may be thwarting you in some ways.
Since I stopped using lots of artificial flavourings I've found it SIGNIFICANTLY easier to recognize my body's hunger queues and stop eating when I'm full, which in turn has given me a better relationship with food. I think I probably appreciate naturally flavourful things more as well; raisins, bananas, peppers, veggies, etc.
It's only been about 2.5 weeks since I stopped smothering my food in stevia, vanilla extract, myprotein flav-drops, etc, but after reading "The Pleasure Trap" and giving low salt/sugar a shot, I'm pretty shocked at how quickly I feel satisfied and no longer desire food after I've eaten.
To be fair though, I was one of those people who had to make every bowl of oatmeal taste like pudding with coco powder, stevia, etc. I added tons of it to my smoothies too, and I smothered my veggies in srirracha.
Just something to think about if you're struggling like I was with always feeling "hungry" or weak-willed.2 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.
Lol - that IS the chemical makeup of all blueberries... Knowledge fail, bro.
Your right. I jumped the gun. I was wrong. But see, I can admit that I was wrong. I did my research because I second guessed myself. But it doesn't take away the fact the original argument. But whatever. Think what you. Here's me being humble admitting I was wrong about the one post about blueberries. Funny.....
4 -
alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »alexzenk86 wrote: »I would stay away from diet anything. I used to have a huge dependency on soda, and I know what it can do to the body. The chemicals they put in soda alone should make you second question yourself when you drink diet soda. Just because it has 0 calories doesn't make it healthy. Pay attention to they put into the drink. I stick to water, coffee and tea.
Which chemicals would be the worrisome ones?
Lets go to school shall we?
First off, your body was never mean to digest any of the ingredients listed in soda. Past the first ingredient, and starting with Caramel E150D ( notice I'm looking at diet coke) this has been linked to cancer. To me, don't want to consume that. Sorry. Next ingredient, sweetners, Aspartame, and Acesulfame K, Both were produced to be safe alternatives to using sugar, yet have been linked to many healthy problems over the years. Next, Phosphoric Acid, this is the product you hear about that eats away at bones, teeth, and causes kidney stones. Why is it soda you ask?? Just to give it a sharp taste...Next, probably the two least harmful ingredients depending on the person, caffeine and citric acid.
This is why I stopped drinking soda. Most of these companies do not care about you as a person. They want to make money! So they dump all this crap into their drinks not caring what it does to the inside of a person, so they can make a profit.
Sounds like the FDA must have really dropped the ball on this one. How did it manage to get through the cracks?
I don't think the FDA really cares to much about what goes into food. Have you ever read what you consume? Look at all the packaged food out there. IT will blow your mind.
Do yourself a favor-check out Mind Pump, they are a fitness Podcast. They talk about stuff like this on some of their shows, along with talking about the corruption in the fitness industry, and they know their stuff too.
Our bodies are made to process chemicals. That's why you have a liver and kidneys, stop listening to woo like Mind Pump.
WOW. If that is what is in your blueberries...You are eating the wrong damn blueberries. I feel sorry for your body. Second. Maybe if you would open your mind for 30 seconds and listened to Mind Pump instead of the keyboard warriors here, you would learn something. That is all. Carry on.
And, just to make a statement, I am not trying to piss anyone off. I made a simple statement about the crap going into these drinks. I don't used to drink them. Hell I would drink 4-5 a day. I loved soda. I still love soda. All I was simply saying was that we have become numb to the crap that the government is allowing into our food, and we just carry one. Ya you may be healthy today, or next year. But what about 20 years-30 years. Let me know how your doing then.
Lol - that IS the chemical makeup of all blueberries... Knowledge fail, bro.
Your right. I jumped the gun. I was wrong. But see, I can admit that I was wrong. I did my research because I second guessed myself. But it doesn't take away the fact the original argument. But whatever. Think what you. Here's me being humble admitting I was wrong about the one post about blueberries. Funny.....
Good on you. I admitted when I was wrong that one time as well...6 -
If anyone thinks that the chemical make up in a blueberry is no better for you than that which is in diet soda... You have lost your damn mind. There is literally no argument here. Sure you can lose weight and still drink diet sodas. But should you? Whole foods always trump processed/artificial foods from a health standpoint. every. Damn. time. And yeah, maybe you feel great now. But, the heavy use of artificial sweeteners are a relatively new thing. We don't know yet what the effects are on a long term (40+ years). How defensive all of the Diet Soda drinkers are is the reaction of an addict. "I feel decent, and am losing weight and I shoot up 3 times a day. It must not be that bad for me"
Do what you want. It's your body and your health. But you cannot argue that Diet soda "healthy."4 -
If anyone thinks that the chemical make up in a blueberry is no better for you than that which is in diet soda... You have lost your damn mind. There is literally no argument here. Sure you can lose weight and still drink diet sodas. But should you? Whole foods always trump processed/artificial foods from a health standpoint. every. Damn. time. And yeah, maybe you feel great now. But, the heavy use of artificial sweeteners are a relatively new thing. We don't know yet what the affects are on a long term (40+ years). How defensive all of the Diet Soda drinkers are is the reaction of an addict. "I feel decent, and am losing weight and I shoot up 3 times a day. It must not be that bad for me"
Do what you want. It's your body and your health. But you cannot argue that Diet soda "healthy."
Re. the bold: No. Just no.
I haven't seen anyone try to argue that diet sodas are healthy. People have said, and continue to say, that in moderation (probably in mild excess, even), they are not harmful.9 -
That's fine, we'll keep our science and you can keep your pseudoscience.alexzenk86 wrote: »I'll let you kids continue to believe the "science" that you all have come to know.
You don't want to bother arguing because you can't back up your claims?I don't want to bother arguing, because I've learned that I can lay out facts, and no matter what I present...it won't change your minds.
The fact is, you haven't laid out any facts, or presented anything, just your baseless assertions. So, why don't you take me back to school. Teach me about the dangers of diet soda. Your three claims are:
Caramel E150D is linked to cancer.
Aspartame and acesulfame-k are linked to many health problems.
Phosphoric acid eats away bones, teeth and causes kidney stones
Now since you've done your research I'm sure you can easily provide the peer reviewed journal articles to prove it. Oh, one more thing, try not to make the amateur mistake of listing invitro, animal, and small n studies. Thanks, us "kids" will wait quietly for your response.7
This discussion has been closed.
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 176K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.6K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.4K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions