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How much fruit to eat per day
Mattwhosfat
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Does it make you bloat or put on weight
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If you are allergic and/or exceed your maintenance calorie level, yes.2
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Are you just starting to eat fruit? Often the fiber can cause gastric upsets until your body gets used to it.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »If you are allergic and/or exceed your maintenance calorie level, yes.
This. No specific food causes fat gain-it's eating over your maintenance level calories that do. Eat what you want, accurately track your food intake, pay attention to portion sizes (food scale), and then stay within the calorie parameters that MFP sets for you (which includes the correct deficit you need to lose at a steady pace). That's all you have to do to lose the weight
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According to the Aussies two "serves" a day which are ~150 grams / 85 calories each. https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/food-essentials/how-much-do-we-need-each-day/serve-sizes
So maybe 10% of daily calories ?2 -
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You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.2 -
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Some raw fruits cause me pain. I don't know if it is a fructose sensitivity or what, but I would get a sharp pain in my gut and bloat when I ate apples, pears, more than a small orange, mangos, and a few others. Before I changed my diet I would only have a couple of servings of fruit per week.
I became prediabetic and started a very LCHF diet to deal with my insulin resistance. I now have fruit (berries) maybe once a month in the colder months, and no more than a couple of times per week in the summer. I am confident that I am geting the nutrients I need from vegetables, meats, nuts, and eggs. Fruit is "nature's candy" and I don't need candy. JMO0 -
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The USDA recommended number of daily servings of fruit for me is one.1
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The only fruit that regularly appears in my diet are the prunes after dinner. Occasionally I'll have a banana, a mandarin orange less so. I do have a lot of vegetables and regularly exceed my recommendations for Vitamin A and C. I do supplement with C but I don't really need to.0
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jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.
Of course you can gain weight eating fruit, if it pushes your total calorie intake above your maintenance calorie levels.
Weight loss, weight gain and weight maintenance is about the amount of calories you're consuming. It has nothing to do with what kinds of foods you're eating to make up those calories.5 -
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Salicylate sensitivity can cause bloating among other problems. Plants use it as a means of warding of moulds and mildews unfortunately for us salicylate is a toxin and some of us are unable to eliminate it from our systems as the majority do. Usually our levels fluctuate but most fruit, veggies, herbs and spices contain it.0
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vinegar_husbands wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »The USDA recommended number of daily servings of fruit for me is one.
MyPlate recommends 1 1/2 cups of fruit per day for women over the age of 51, which is equivalent to three servings.
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/fruit
I'm pretty sure the lobbyists over at the ADA/USDA aren't interested in what's actually healthy, though.
What organization do you consider better resources than the ADA and USDA? The WHO guidelines are generally similar.0 -
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jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.
Dietary fat will only be stored if you are eating at a surplus. Dietary carbs will only be stored if you are eating at a surplus. That said, your body can only tolerate so much carbs (glucose) at one time - too much glucose in the blood is deadly (literally). So your body works very hard to control that by storing it first in the muscles and liver, as glycogen, then any beyond what you can store as glycogen gets converted to fat and stored in the fat cells. This happens very readily, as you would die if it didn't. Your body has a pretty limited glycogen storage capacity, but your capacity for storing fat is virtually unlimited, so anything in excess of what you are burning gets stored as fat. You only need to be eating too many calories, whatever the form, in order to store carbs as fat. Fat is filling, satiating, necessary for health (there are essential fatty acids; there are no "essential" carbs, your liver can make all the glucose you require), necessary for the absorption of certain vitamins, doesn't spike your blood sugar, and is damn tastey
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So eat adequate protein for muscle repair and maintenance, keep the carbs in check, and eat fat to satiety.
Source : lost 50 lbs on a high fat, low carb diet and have kept it off for nearly three years now.
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In an energy deficit, nothing will make you fat. In an energy surplus, everything will make you fat...jessica_sodenkamp wrote: »You could eat fruit all day and not gain weight. You'll more likely gain weight from consuming fatty foods.
Fat consumed is easily stored. It is not readily used as an energy source and therefore not burned unless you are eating very little carbs (which is an unhealthy practice).
Carbs, on the other hand, are readily used as energy but not so easily stored. Once your body can no longer use the calories from carbs as energy, the carbs are not stored as fat. They are stored as glycogen in the liver and the muscles. It is only after those stores are filled that carbs can be stored as fat. And you would have to eat WAY more carbs than you realistically already eat in order to do that.
So eat as much fruit as you'd like! Curb the fat.
Source: Lost 25+ pounds on a high carb low-fat diet.7 -
@mattldrowne it really depends a lot on how the sugar in fruit impacts your own blood glucose levels. Below is a post on how to use a blood glucose meter as a tool in losing weight. Welcome to MFP forums and best of success.
boards.sethroberts.net/index.php?topic=7511.01 -
mattldrowne wrote: »Does it make you bloat or put on weight
No bloating from fruit for me personally.
I'm not going to put on weight unless I eat more calories than I need to maintain my current weight. I could do that with calories from fruit, chicken, rice, broccoli, or pizza. It doesn't matter what the food is just the calories.1 -
No bloating for me. In fact, quite the opposite, since it's extremely difficult to eat the huge volumes of fruit necessary to lead to calorie-overload, since they are full of fiber as well as sugar. I suppose avocados are an exception, but even there, the fat content fills you up.0
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Avocados may have a high fat content but they are considered to be "good fats" which are beneficial to the body. Avacados also support the immune system. Most of the hormones needed by the body require fats in their construction.1
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I eat at least 400 grams of fruit a day, but that's just me.0
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I don't eat most fruit.
I would eat oranges and bananas to my heart's content. And watermelon. MMMMMMMM But the sugar content is a bit much.
Apples would cause me to feel noticeably bloaty and a little funny in the head. Pears as well.
I do eat avocadoes, coconuts, and olives with no ill feelings.0 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »Dietary fat will only be stored if you are eating at a surplus.
what's your time frame for this "surplus" ? what's the control mechanism.
Eat carbs and you oxidise them, storing any fat you eat at the same time for later use and reducing the release of fats from storage. ITIS.
Fat is stored and released all the time.0 -
I spent so much of my life on a high fat low carb diet in order to keep my weight down that I was literally afraid to eat anything more than a 1/4 of a banana. I switched over to eating raw low fat vegan all day until supper with a regular cooked omnivorous meal, and so far I have not gained weight, in fact I have lost, and the best thing is that I don't have the blood sugar swings that I was so afraid of having while eating so much fruit. I think the key is , if you eat the fruit, you should not be having any fat, nuts or any other food with it. So far it works for me. I will eat about 2 mangoes or 2 bananas, a half of a watermelon, 2 cups of grapes and 2 cups of pineapple with several stalks of celery and a head of romaine from morning till supper.
Supper can be anything from vegan to steak and fries. so far, so good. (and I can share meal time with my family)
I have tried every diet under the sun, this way of eating satisfies me more than any other way of eating I have ever tried.
No bloat, gas or anything,( if I bloat it is after a pasta meal at night)2 -
tlflag1620 wrote: »Dietary fat will only be stored if you are eating at a surplus.
what's your time frame for this "surplus" ? what's the control mechanism.
Eat carbs and you oxidise them, storing any fat you eat at the same time for later use and reducing the release of fats from storage. ITIS.
Fat is stored and released all the time.
I mean over time. If you are eating at a surplus over a period of days/weeks/whathaveyou, then yes dietary fat will create more adipose tissue. Yes, carbs are given priority, because high blood sugar is an emergency in your body. But over time, even eating low carb, if you are consuming too much, you are consuming too much and it will get stored as far.
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tlflag1620 wrote: »tlflag1620 wrote: »Dietary fat will only be stored if you are eating at a surplus.
what's your time frame for this "surplus" ? what's the control mechanism.
Eat carbs and you oxidise them, storing any fat you eat at the same time for later use and reducing the release of fats from storage. ITIS.
Fat is stored and released all the time.
I mean over time. If you are eating at a surplus over a period of days/weeks/whathaveyou, then yes dietary fat will create more adipose tissue. Yes, carbs are given priority, because high blood sugar is an emergency in your body. But over time, even eating low carb, if you are consuming too much, you are consuming too much and it will get stored as far.
Bit of a circular argument, as the definition of "surplus" is that you stored fat / glycogen.
Can you store extra fat in 24h due to the balance of fuel use and intake over that 24h ?0
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