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If it's all CICO - why can't you outrun a bad diet?
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WinoGelato wrote: »I'm getting dizzy this thread has gone in so many circles...
Me too.0 -
Can we talk about cheeseburgers again?2
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Speaking of burgers, I'll be having a salmon burger for dinner made from canned salmon and homemade bread. Quite tasty, I must say, although I don't put cheese on it.2
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ForecasterJason wrote: »Speaking of burgers, I'll be having a salmon burger for dinner made from canned salmon and homemade bread. Quite tasty, I must say, although I don't put cheese on it.
Did somebody say burger?
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that's my point. If the diet isn't bad, she's not outrunning a bad diet.jofjltncb6 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »Oh boy I just read page 8... I don't want to maintain my weight, I still want to lose roughly 1lb a week. So I chose my maintenance calories (at sedentary), and will endevour to burn 500 calories per day through exercise to achieve that weight loss.
Yeah I did word it incorrectly (as usual
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Your comment actually made sense.
It was a subsequent reply to it that didn't that caused the problem.
Ok, we'll go back there then:jofjltncb6 wrote: »
It wouldn't be a bad diet if you were at maintenance.Christine_72 wrote: »Ok what if you eat at maintenance everyday, but burn off 500 calories through exercise to lose 1lb a week. Would this be classed as outrunning a "bad" diet?
Huh?
How is it only okay at maintenance?
It would actually be a terrible diet at maintenance....because it would be 500 daily calories too little.
Also, the question was "Would this be classed as outrunning a "bad" diet?". Why would you assume my answer was addressing whether or not it is ok?
Because what she meant was "I eat at maintenance level not including exercise, then I exercise enough to burn 500 calories each day. Does that count as outrunning a bad diet?"
She is actually eating at a deficit, but from her perspective, the deficit comes from increasing activity, not from eating less food.
The answer is yes, that is how you outrun a "bad" diet. But the diet isn't bad, so there's that.
I get it! Someone who is eating over maintenance (therefore would most likely gain weight) and then exercising to put them at maintenance would be "outrunning a bad diet".
In this case the "bad diet" would be eating more calories than they should be.
Someone who is eating at maintenance, which was the example given, would not be a "bad diet" because they are actually eating at maintenance BEFORE the exercise which means the added exercise actually puts them at deficit.
Either way w/ or without exercise they weren't eating more than they should, therefore no "bad diet".
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ForecasterJason wrote: »Speaking of burgers, I'll be having a salmon burger for dinner made from canned salmon and homemade bread. Quite tasty, I must say, although I don't put cheese on it.
I love salmon burgers... well I just love salmon in general, LOL!
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My favorite fish-based burger (or sandwich, if one is a purist) is tuna steak with a spicy jardiniere on a whole-wheat bun. A lunch place near my (former) office used to make them, and I started doing them at home. So good.1
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lemurcat12 wrote: »My favorite fish-based burger (or sandwich, if one is a purist) is tuna steak with a spicy jardiniere on a whole-wheat bun. A lunch place near my (former) office used to make them, and I started doing them at home. So good.
IDK what "jardinière" is but I love spicy and tuna so I'm sure it's delish!0 -
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DoreenaV1975 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My favorite fish-based burger (or sandwich, if one is a purist) is tuna steak with a spicy jardiniere on a whole-wheat bun. A lunch place near my (former) office used to make them, and I started doing them at home. So good.
IDK what "jardinière" is but I love spicy and tuna so I'm sure it's delish!
I can't remember what language I should be using or simply can't spell. I meant giardiniera.
http://chicago.seriouseats.com/2013/11/taste-test-the-best-giardiniera.html0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »DoreenaV1975 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »My favorite fish-based burger (or sandwich, if one is a purist) is tuna steak with a spicy jardiniere on a whole-wheat bun. A lunch place near my (former) office used to make them, and I started doing them at home. So good.
IDK what "jardinière" is but I love spicy and tuna so I'm sure it's delish!
I can't remember what language I should be using or simply can't spell. I meant giardiniera.
http://chicago.seriouseats.com/2013/11/taste-test-the-best-giardiniera.html
Oh, that stuff is awesome!!!0 -
I propose that an apple a day will not keep the doctor away.0
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I propose that an apple a day will not keep the doctor away.
Too late:Carlos_421 wrote: »I have an idea...let's take a cliche, apply it as a scientific principle while leaving it's meaning open to any interpretation and then debate it's merits in relation to scientific fact, using nothing but our own opinions, anecdotes and emotions as the basis for our positions!
That'll be fun!!!!
(seriously, this whole conversation is mind numbingly pointless)
An apple a day keeps the doctor away?
Every cloud has a silver lining?0 -
This is purely for debate purposes - if weight loss is purely calories in and calories out, why can't you 'outrun a bad diet' - surely if you run enough to burn off the calories of a bad dietary intake, you can for all intents and purposes outrun a bad diet?
If a person is in a caloric deficit surely they will lose irrespective of what their food intake is.
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It's not that you can't... It's just so much easier to pound a 120 calories soda in five minutes than to burn 120 calories running for a half hour.3 -
It was a reference to that post (and the one about changing the subject). I was just too lazy to go back and find it to quote it.I propose that an apple a day will not keep the doctor away.
Too late:Carlos_421 wrote: »I have an idea...let's take a cliche, apply it as a scientific principle while leaving it's meaning open to any interpretation and then debate it's merits in relation to scientific fact, using nothing but our own opinions, anecdotes and emotions as the basis for our positions!
That'll be fun!!!!
(seriously, this whole conversation is mind numbingly pointless)
An apple a day keeps the doctor away?
Every cloud has a silver lining?
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It was a reference to that post (and the one about changing the subject). I was just too lazy to go back and find it to quote it.I propose that an apple a day will not keep the doctor away.
Too late:Carlos_421 wrote: »I have an idea...let's take a cliche, apply it as a scientific principle while leaving it's meaning open to any interpretation and then debate it's merits in relation to scientific fact, using nothing but our own opinions, anecdotes and emotions as the basis for our positions!
That'll be fun!!!!
(seriously, this whole conversation is mind numbingly pointless)
An apple a day keeps the doctor away?
Every cloud has a silver lining?
I'll allow it.1 -
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oh man, these are soooooo cute! makes reading this whole wierd thread worth it.1
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