What's the biggest weight-loss lie you've ever heard?
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ReaderGirl3 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »"You don't need to worry about calories, only sugar!"
My god I could eat 5,000 calories with minimal sugar, doesn't make it magically defy the law of CICO. And this came from someone who knew I have recently lost 12kg doing calorie counting
I agree with you that 5000 calories and no sugar wouldn't do much. But i can say that after lowering my total sugar intake (refined and natural) to 20g or under, my weight loss took off. The body doesn't need more sugar than that. of course, you would have to watch other macros such as carbs and sodium...Even "Fat" content doesn't bother me all that much and I am over (just a little) most days - but I have consistently lost 1-2 lbs since I've started following this rule.
I won't say that I don't care about my calories, but I am not a slave to that number. I don't even have my calories on my dashboard, I have my macros and honestly, If I hit my macros - 99% of the time, I have stayed within my calories when check a the end of the day - a few times i couldn't complete my diary because I hadnt eaten enough calories.
There is no doubt and plenty of studies that eliminating or drastically lowering your sugar intake will assist in weight loss.
I'm heading out for the day and really don't have time for another sugar debate, but could you clarify-are you saying that by lowering your sugar intake you're lowering your calorie intake, which helps create the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals? Or are you saying that if you lower your sugar intake, but continue eating at your TDEE or even at a calorie surplus over your TDEE, you'll lose weight just because you've cut out/down on sugar?
Also, how did you remove your calories from your dashboard? When I go into my settings calories is the only thing I can't remove (it shows that it's required).
No, did not lower my calorie intake. Just saying that my hitting all of my macros, I'm usually under. there is a rare occasion that Im not under and thats great. I can't answer your question because I haven't been focused on my calories, I haven't changed them -but I do measure my macros by % of calories and not by grams.
Also, I have no idea how I got my macros on my dashboard - HAHA, but once I get some coffee, I will check out my settings and figure it out - I stumbled on it one day haha. I am a paid user, don't know if you are, so it may be something that is afforded in their premium membership only..but check back later and i will have figured it out.
No debate
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »ReaderGirl3 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »"You don't need to worry about calories, only sugar!"
My god I could eat 5,000 calories with minimal sugar, doesn't make it magically defy the law of CICO. And this came from someone who knew I have recently lost 12kg doing calorie counting
I agree with you that 5000 calories and no sugar wouldn't do much. But i can say that after lowering my total sugar intake (refined and natural) to 20g or under, my weight loss took off. The body doesn't need more sugar than that. of course, you would have to watch other macros such as carbs and sodium...Even "Fat" content doesn't bother me all that much and I am over (just a little) most days - but I have consistently lost 1-2 lbs since I've started following this rule.
I won't say that I don't care about my calories, but I am not a slave to that number. I don't even have my calories on my dashboard, I have my macros and honestly, If I hit my macros - 99% of the time, I have stayed within my calories when check a the end of the day - a few times i couldn't complete my diary because I hadnt eaten enough calories.
There is no doubt and plenty of studies that eliminating or drastically lowering your sugar intake will assist in weight loss.
I'm heading out for the day and really don't have time for another sugar debate, but could you clarify-are you saying that by lowering your sugar intake you're lowering your calorie intake, which helps create the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals? Or are you saying that if you lower your sugar intake, but continue eating at your TDEE or even at a calorie surplus over your TDEE, you'll lose weight just because you've cut out/down on sugar?
Also, how did you remove your calories from your dashboard? When I go into my settings calories is the only thing I can't remove (it shows that it's required).
No, did not lower my calorie intake. Just saying that my hitting all of my macros, I'm usually under. there is a rare occasion that Im not under and thats great. I can't answer your question because I haven't been focused on my calories, I haven't changed them -but I do measure my macros by % of calories and not by grams.
Also, I have no idea how I did it, but once I get some coffee, I will check out my settings and figure it out - I stumbled on it one day haha. I am a paid user, don't know if you are, so it may be something that is afforded in their premium membership only..but check back later and i will have figured it out.
No debate Happy Sunday!
I use the free version so that's probably it I'd love to discuss the other part of your post but now I'm running late and really have to step away from the computer lol. 0 -
ReaderGirl3 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »ReaderGirl3 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »"You don't need to worry about calories, only sugar!"
My god I could eat 5,000 calories with minimal sugar, doesn't make it magically defy the law of CICO. And this came from someone who knew I have recently lost 12kg doing calorie counting
I agree with you that 5000 calories and no sugar wouldn't do much. But i can say that after lowering my total sugar intake (refined and natural) to 20g or under, my weight loss took off. The body doesn't need more sugar than that. of course, you would have to watch other macros such as carbs and sodium...Even "Fat" content doesn't bother me all that much and I am over (just a little) most days - but I have consistently lost 1-2 lbs since I've started following this rule.
I won't say that I don't care about my calories, but I am not a slave to that number. I don't even have my calories on my dashboard, I have my macros and honestly, If I hit my macros - 99% of the time, I have stayed within my calories when check a the end of the day - a few times i couldn't complete my diary because I hadnt eaten enough calories.
There is no doubt and plenty of studies that eliminating or drastically lowering your sugar intake will assist in weight loss.
I'm heading out for the day and really don't have time for another sugar debate, but could you clarify-are you saying that by lowering your sugar intake you're lowering your calorie intake, which helps create the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals? Or are you saying that if you lower your sugar intake, but continue eating at your TDEE or even at a calorie surplus over your TDEE, you'll lose weight just because you've cut out/down on sugar?
Also, how did you remove your calories from your dashboard? When I go into my settings calories is the only thing I can't remove (it shows that it's required).
No, did not lower my calorie intake. Just saying that my hitting all of my macros, I'm usually under. there is a rare occasion that Im not under and thats great. I can't answer your question because I haven't been focused on my calories, I haven't changed them -but I do measure my macros by % of calories and not by grams.
Also, I have no idea how I did it, but once I get some coffee, I will check out my settings and figure it out - I stumbled on it one day haha. I am a paid user, don't know if you are, so it may be something that is afforded in their premium membership only..but check back later and i will have figured it out.
No debate Happy Sunday!
I use the free version so that's probably it I'd love to discuss the other part of your post but now I'm running late and really have to step away from the computer lol.
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"don't worry, it must be muscle gains"9
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »"You don't need to worry about calories, only sugar!"
My god I could eat 5,000 calories with minimal sugar, doesn't make it magically defy the law of CICO. And this came from someone who knew I have recently lost 12kg doing calorie counting
I agree with you that 5000 calories and no sugar wouldn't do much. But i can say that after lowering my total sugar intake (refined and natural) to 20g or under, my weight loss took off. The body doesn't need more sugar than that. of course, you would have to watch other macros such as carbs and sodium...Even "Fat" content doesn't bother me all that much and I am over (just a little) most days - but I have consistently lost 1-2 lbs since I've started following this rule.
I won't say that I don't care about my calories, but I am not a slave to that number. I don't even have my calories on my dashboard, I have my macros and honestly, If I hit my macros - 99% of the time, I have stayed within my calories when check a the end of the day - a few times i couldn't complete my diary because I hadnt eaten enough calories - so "poor me" - I had to eat more
There is no doubt and plenty of studies that eliminating or drastically lowering your sugar intake will assist in weight loss.
It will only help in the sense that fat and protein (and fiber) are more filling than sugar... so you'll be less hungry, and less likely to eat too much.
If you still eat 20g of sugar but eat too much of the rest, you still won't lose anything. It's ALWAYS CICO.
ETA: quoted post is a perfect answer to this thread - that it's sugar that makes you fat...4 -
turn that fat into muscles14
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Moderation is impossible for everyone
You have to eat clean
You need to starve yourself to lose
Quick weight loss is the best weight loss
One day will ruin your efforts. Don't even bother trying to go back to normal the next day.6 -
Pizza isn't healthy.
You should jump start your metabolism by drinking tea, shakes, not eating foods with an s, dropping your calories to 500 for 2 weeks, etc.
Don't eat any white foods.
If you aren't losing weight you should eat more.6 -
ReaderGirl3 wrote: »dustedwithsugar wrote: »Eating every 3 hours will help to lose weight
This is not a myth actually. If you eat more frequent but little portions, your body has time to digest what you ate and you are less hungry in a process. Also eating when you're NOT hungry helps to fill you up faster leading to eating less at meal time.
This is a myth as it varies per person. I don't do well on frequent, small meals as they always leave me hungry. This is why many people adopt an IF style of eating, as meal times are a preference. There is nothing special about small, frequent meals in and of itself that would induce weight loss.
Then you don't eat right macros per meal. It's really that easy. I was of same thought as you before I started to look at meal macros.
Macros breakdown doesn't matter for weight loss either. In terms of weight loss the only thing that matters is that you're eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals.
This is only true for people who don't have metabolic disorders that mess with carb metabolism. As many of those disorders go hand in hand with obesity, it's a bit disingenuous to state that macros don't matter, given the typical weight loss users of this website.3 -
To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.1 -
This sure turned dark fast...
Here's one to get it back on track: Samples from Sam's Club or Costco don't count.11 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
A blatant statement like that needs CREDIBLE resources to back it up.
Otherwise, you're just misinformed. 30 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
Now you've done it.
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BUY THIS.....fill in the blank, that is the biggest lie.8
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
That's silly. My diet usually contains more vegetables than most people consider possible to eat, but easter week was a very busy time and I existed almost exclusively on chocolate. My weight loss was no different than usual. So what if you insulin spikes? Even for diabetics it has almost nothing to do with weight loss.16 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
With health and nutrition yes, but not with weight loss. It's like the age old question, "what weighs more 100lb of feathers or 100lb of gold"15 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
Nutritionally, sure, or if you have health issues such that eating some sugar without fiber is a problem (it's not for most people with normal insulin responses).
But since CICO does not (obviously) mean all foods are the same for all purposes (in other words, a calorie is a calorie DOES NOT mean a food is a food), and you really have to be willfully trying to misinterpret what people say to think otherwise, this has nothing to do with the validity of CICO.
For weight loss calories are what matter. What helps people with the mental side of keeping calories in check is individual, and therefore claiming that eating a candy bar is a problem in general is false.
(Also, the idea of choosing between a candy bar and vegetables is just bizarre. I eat vegetables with all meals, ideally. I might have some high quality chocolate as a snack after a meal. I would never sacrifice a balanced normal meal or a component of it for the treat, and I think it's odd to think people typically would.)9 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
People say 100 cals of carrots is equal to 100 cals of candy as far as weight loss is concerned and that is very true.
Weight loss comes down to calories
Calories in - calories out
Nowhere in that above statement is nutrition mentioned. It is said in the context of weight loss. Weight loss is caused by a calorie deficit and that's fact. There's no way around it. If you decide not to believe it, that's on you but please do not go about spreading more false information. Spreading false info only further confuses newcomers who come here desperate to lose weight.
My point is - nobody ever said 100 cals of candy is nutritionally equal to 100 cals of vegetables.
People did And do say that 100 cals of candy is the same as 100 cals of vegetables as far as weight loss goes because that it in fact true.
If I ate 1500 cals of candy I would still lose weight because I would be at a calorie deficit. Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. Obviously I wouldn't have a well balanced diet by eating 1500 cals of candy per day and it surely wouldn't be a healthy sustainable way of eating but I would still lose weight. Calories in - calories out.
You seem to be very misunderstood about weight loss and nutrition and are only confusing others by posting misinformation.23 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
Exactly. So odd that people pretend that this is what CICO is supposed to mean. Why make up a silly strawman?11 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »thorsmom01 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
I don't think you understand what cico means. Where did anyone say 100 cals of vegetables is nutritionally equal to 100 of candy ?
Exactly. So odd that people pretend that this is what CICO is supposed to mean. Why make up a silly strawman?
Its indeed silly and could potentially confuse newcomers. People often stumble upon this site without understanding how to lose weight. They come here seeking any information to help them along. When people post incorrect information, it further confuses people.6 -
Sadly..that you don't have to count calories on a low carb diet
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This sure turned dark fast...
Here's one to get it back on track: Samples from Sam's Club or Costco don't count.
Damn, grazing has to be counted. That's why I hit Costco early in the day, before the sample people get set up. I just wish they'd quit venting the bakery exhaust into to store so you don't smell all those cookies and stuff while you're shopping. And to again get back on track:
DETOX....3 -
"losing weight is the easy part-Keeping it off is hard..." BS losing is no easy task!!!!2
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"if you work out less than 30 minutes it will not help because you won't start burning carbs until then."
Oh I see, I am burning carbs you say? and my body keeps time? Let me take notes.5 -
That ____ (insert any food here) is bad for you when losing weight.
Co-worker of mine went gluten-free and of course she lost weight, mostly because she was eating considerably less gluten-free than she did prior. She, of course started pushing it on me, especially since SO has crohn's. She was miffed when I told her that we wouldn't be going gluten-free and that most GF alternatives actually cause reactions with his crohn's. She still doesn't understand how I'm losing weight just counting calories. She thinks I'm just not telling her my big "diet secret" lmao.4 -
in...just because I am going to see how long it takes for this to crash and burn.
CICO for weight loss
Macros for health and fitness.
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Fat makes you fat.
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »To me -and my research, understanding and personal experience, CICO is a myth.
100 calories of a vegetable is not the same as 100 calories of say, a candy bar. There are other issues to consider. There is no fiber in the candy bar for one.. Your insulin levels are going to spike with the candy. I've never bought into that CICO argument. But if it's working for you that's great.
You should call all the physics book publishers and tell them to strike the parts about Conservation of Energy. It's a myth after all.15 -
Cut sugar out and eat clean.
Ha! when I did that, I was 260lbs and stayed that way.. Enter CICO and the weight came off.7
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