May 2016 Running Challenge

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  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    Darned andoid...
  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    _nikkiwolf_ wrote: »
    Would it be very crazy to do two 10k races in one weekend?
    Well - I was crazy enough to run a 5K and a 10K last Saturday, with my usual (but shortened to 10K) long-run inbetween, so 25K for the day. None of them were especially "race pace" but I'm not terribly fast anyway.
  • PoppetsMaster
    PoppetsMaster Posts: 200 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »

    @PoppetsMaster that muddy trail picture is awesome!! Looks like miserable fun! It makes me really want to find an ultra to sign up for. What water pack are you using? I need to find one that would fit a tall guy (I'm 6' 5")
    The mud is miserable fun for 7 or 8 miles, but after that it degenerated into just misery. 24 miles of it is horrendous and you will have no problem whatsoever in knowing exactly where your hip flexors are. I am running another 50k trail race in Ohio on July 9... come run it. :) My water pack is an older Camel-Bak... and is a very basic model. It works really well, but I am thinking about getting something with more storage for my longer runs. I can't help you with sizing... I am only 5'7", but I would imagine they make a Jolly Green Giant size as well.
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Another component of my training plan that I neglected was the fatigued long run. My plan had me running a shorter run, say 7 or 8 miles one day, then my long run the following day so my legs would be fatigued at the start. This would allow my body to adapt to the pounding of a 26 mile run without having to actually run 26 miles. Since I preferred to take Friday off and do my long runs on Saturday, I missed this key development.
    This is a really good point... I take Mondays and Fridays off and use Saturdays and Sundays for the long back-to-backs when they show up in my training plans. Doing 10 miles on Saturday followed up with 15 more on Sunday is tough, but pays big dividends. Knowing how to run on dead legs is crucial for distance running.

    I just got my training plan from my brother for the 100 miler in October... I'm looking at the scheduled back-to-backs as I am typing this... and he has rocks in his head.. lol... in July I see a 6 and 25, 6 and 20 and 10 and 12... which is manageable, but in August and September he has us doing 13 and 20, 10 and 25, 12 and 25, 16 and 31, 10 and 20 in consecutive weeks.

    This will certainly get you ready for a distance race, but it's a huge time commitment and is not conducive to a happy relationship or family time. Unless you are married to ultrarunner who doesn't want kids. Then you are golden.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Tomorrow is supposed to be 30-45m of cross training...I'm really feeling no motivation for it. Don't have a bike right now, and no pool near by. Thinking about doing some HIIT cardio or ab killer for the time, but just not feeling it.....cut back weeks stink....but are so necessary.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Tomorrow is supposed to be 30-45m of cross training...I'm really feeling no motivation for it. Don't have a bike right now, and no pool near by. Thinking about doing some HIIT cardio or ab killer for the time, but just not feeling it.....cut back weeks stink....but are so necessary.

    How about a little kickboxing to let our your frustration over not running? https://www.fitnessblender.com/videos/cardio-kickboxing-and-abs-workout-kickboxing-for-stress-and-cardio-benefits :wink:
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    PoppetsMaster wrote: »
    I just got my training plan from my brother for the 100 miler in October... I'm looking at the scheduled back-to-backs as I am typing this... and he has rocks in his head.. lol... in July I see a 6 and 25, 6 and 20 and 10 and 12... which is manageable, but in August and September he has us doing 13 and 20, 10 and 25, 12 and 25, 16 and 31, 10 and 20 in consecutive weeks.

    This will certainly get you ready for a distance race, but it's a huge time commitment and is not conducive to a happy relationship or family time. Unless you are married to ultrarunner who doesn't want kids. Then you are golden.

    Over the winter I met an ultra trail runner who's goal is to always be in ultramarathon condition. When I met him he was coming off an injury so he was *just* doing 20/20 on Sat/Sun, but he says he normally does 30/30 EVERY weekend.

    Time...that's the one thing that keeps me on a leash. If i do anything more than a half the rest of this year I'll ahve to keep it on the down low or my wife will freak. She agreed to my time training for this past race because of my reasoning that training is before our busy summer and fall. I have to (and want to) be fair to my family and make sure I'm spending the right amount of time with them.

    I think I can maintain a fitness level for running HM's at any time, but will need to be careful about scheduling anything longer.

    That said, there's a 50K on July 2nd with an 8 hour time limit. I'm tempted to just to sign up and see what happens. For some reason I feel much more willing to take it easy on a trail race than I do on a road race.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    greenolivetree wrote: »
    How about a little kickboxing to let our your frustration over not running? https://www.fitnessblender.com/videos/cardio-kickboxing-and-abs-workout-kickboxing-for-stress-and-cardio-benefits :wink:
    Funny you mention that. I'm on fitness blender right now....I used to do Muay Thai, so I might do a Kick Boxing routine tomorrow, Will have to see. Have cruise intervals on Thursday, so I don't want to kill myself too much...
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited May 2016
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    Tomorrow is supposed to be 30-45m of cross training...I'm really feeling no motivation for it. Don't have a bike right now, and no pool near by. Thinking about doing some HIIT cardio or ab killer for the time, but just not feeling it.....cut back weeks stink....but are so necessary.

    I'm so lazy. My cross training is nonexistent. I usually call yard work cross training. It does involve hauling trees and such though. I'm too cheap to pay for a Y membership. I may reconsider after the remodel though.

    Anything you do is better than holding the couch down.

    @greenolivetree Thanks for posting that link/video. Sounds fun.
  • Virkati
    Virkati Posts: 679 Member
    368 days. 18 hours. 38 minutes. Colfax Half 2017.
    I can't wait!!
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    PoppetsMaster wrote: »
    Bikes? Pools? They actually have that stuff up where you live in BFE, Minnesota? I thought up there cross-training was stuff like roping elks, chunking ice, dodging bears and chopping down trees with hatchets.
    That's only when we want to take it easy.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Back to the basics for tomorrow... The cardio I did before I started running in Feb....https://www.fitnessblender.com/videos/total-body-tabata-workout-45-min-hiit-and-toning-routine
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @AdrianChr92 count the strides for sure. Great run!
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited May 2016
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    @WhatMeRunning, one of these days I'm going to find one of the races on your list that fits my schedule and come down and join you. Or maybe stop by on my way to or from Lawrence and join you in a run? If the Jenks HM wasn't during our pheasant hunting trip I'd join you and @Elise4270 for that.

    You can't pheasant hunt and run in the same day? :lol:

    @WhatMeRunning find @7lenny7 a race and make him come down!

    http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/Calendar.aspx
    Well, I've seriously considered adding these runs to my calendar if I drop my 10/15 full to a half, at which point I can fit in more halfs. :smile: (and of course I would) :blush: I'm strongly leaning towards doing this more and more as I am pretty happy with the half distance right now so I can focus on getting faster, losing weight, etc...

    Most are trail halfs, so I'll list those first. :smile:
    This one is at the trails around Clinton Lake right on the west side of Lawrence, KS.
    9/5 - North Shore Trail Run http://www.psychowyco.com/id61.html

    Both of these are trail halfs at Lake Perry, just a shortish drive from Lawrence, KS area.
    6/24 - Rock the Night Away Trail Half http://www.psychowyco.com/lakeperrytrailruns/id14.html
    10/1 - Lake Perry Rocks Trail Half http://www.psychowyco.com/lakeperrytrailruns/id13.html

    For road halfs, there are these:
    9/24 - Pony Express Run (St. Joseph, MO) - http://www.sportkc.org/events/4th-annual-pony-express-run/
    10/1 - Run the Burg (Warrensburg, MO) - http://runtheburg.com/Home_Page.php
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited May 2016
    WhatMeRunning wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    @WhatMeRunning, one of these days I'm going to find one of the races on your list that fits my schedule and come down and join you. Or maybe stop by on my way to or from Lawrence and join you in a run? If the Jenks HM wasn't during our pheasant hunting trip I'd join you and @Elise4270 for that.

    You can't pheasant hunt and run in the same day? :lol:

    @WhatMeRunning find @7lenny7 a race and make him come down!

    http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/Calendar.aspx
    Well, I've seriously considered adding these runs to my calendar if I drop my 10/15 full to a half, at which point I can fit in more halfs. :smile: (and of course I would) :blush: I'm strongly leaning towards doing this more and more as I am pretty happy with the half distance right now so I can focus on getting faster, losing weight, etc...

    Most are trail halfs, so I'll list those first. :smile:
    This one is at the trails around Clinton Lake right on the west side of Lawrence, KS.
    9/5 - North Shore Trail Run http://www.psychowyco.com/id61.html

    Both of these are trail halfs at Lake Perry, just a shortish drive from Lawrence, KS area.
    6/24 - Rock the Night Away Trail Half http://www.psychowyco.com/lakeperrytrailruns/id14.html
    10/1 - Lake Perry Rocks Trail Half http://www.psychowyco.com/lakeperrytrailruns/id13.html

    For road halfs, there are these:
    9/24 - Pony Express Run (St. Joseph, MO) - http://www.sportkc.org/events/4th-annual-pony-express-run/
    10/1 - Run the Burg (Warrensburg, MO) - http://runtheburg.com/Home_Page.php

    June 24 is 12 days after surgery - doubt I could make that, unless I bail on the sx. Edit duh, no. Surgery is July 12. I'm OK 6/24
    I'm working 9/24, least until changes are made. But it looks like the rest I'll be available. But, if you and Pat can run together, I have no doubt that'll be a blast.

    And honestly post surgery, I have no idea how much time it'll take to get back to running. But, I'm down for trails. My husband ain't so keen on 'em. But I'm working on him. @ceciliaslater may be interested too. And @greenolivetree ? It'd would surely be a MF Party!
  • AdrianChr92
    AdrianChr92 Posts: 567 Member
    A god damn it I just couldn't stay put and messed with the a callus on my foot now it hurts when I walk. I hope a bandaid will do
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    Over the winter I met an ultra trail runner who's goal is to always be in ultramarathon condition. When I met him he was coming off an injury so he was *just* doing 20/20 on Sat/Sun, but he says he normally does 30/30 EVERY weekend.

    . . .

    I think I can maintain a fitness level for running HM's at any time, but will need to be careful about scheduling anything longer.

    I managed to stay in pretty much perpetual shape to run a half in 2015, and ran 5 of them plus a full marathon. That was the year I came to understand the repeat marathon runners' attitude towards half marathons; they're races, you schedule them, but there isn't much of a taper or recovery period for a half when your major focus is a full marathon.

    One thing I noticed was, stretching the long runs out to 16 miles or so really helped me be prepared for a half. After I'd done that, one long run a week of 10+ miles was sufficient to keep me in shape for the half distance.

    Still working on figuring out how to stay in shape or at least manage the training cycle for the full marathon distance. It might take me a couple more full marathons to get to where I think I understand that.

  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    AdrianChr92 wrote: »
    A god damn it I just couldn't stay put and messed with the a callus on my foot now it hurts when I walk. I hope a bandaid will do

    Haha. Awwww. I just use sandpaper on them.

    Anyone bother with pedicures? I've never had one.
  • Ohhim
    Ohhim Posts: 1,142 Member
    Felt much less dead after the rest day yesterday and ran 11 miles with a few friends mid-day today. Love being back up north as too much running in Florida heat/humidity just saps me too much, even when I slow down.

    5/1 - 26.2 miles (Pittsburgh Marathon - 3:08:25, ran as bib #666 in full devil costume, got a BQ)
    5/5 - 6 miles
    5/9 - 15 miles
    5/10 - 6 miles
    5/11 - 3 miles
    5/12 - 2 miles
    5/13 - 4.5 miles
    5/14 - 6 miles
    5/15 - 3 miles
    5/17 - 11 miles

    Total: 82.5 miles
    Goal: 180 miles
    Remaining: 97.5 miles

    Next Races:
    Ironman 70.3 Augusta - September
    Chicago Marathon - October
    Ironman Florida - November

    @_nikkiwolf_ - I'm not a big fan of back to back races, but I think I tie up too much of my ego/identity in my race times to be comfortable racing at any less than 100%.
  • ceciliaslater
    ceciliaslater Posts: 457 Member
    @WhatMeRunning - You're getting into my old stomping grounds with that Pony Express Half. I grew up (and my parents still live) about 45 minutes from St. Joe.

    Unfortunately, I'm holding off on race registrations until after I meet with the surgeon next week (Tuesday). I don't think I'll be able to run again until after a surgery happens--I've just got too much inflammation and limited mobility in my ankle to have a truly normal gait. And with moving next month, I'll likely have to put off surgery until sometime in July, pushing my 8 week recovery window into September. And THEN, I have to start working my way back to being fit enough to really run again.

    I'm still keeping up my cardio (spin classes, mostly) and weightlifting so that I don't turn into a total blob. I dread surgery recovery and not even being able to do that much...

    The new house that we've contracted on is only 6 miles south of the Kansas border, so maybe some of those Kansas races you've been running will be doable for me next year!
  • runner_girl83
    runner_girl83 Posts: 553 Member
    Got to get back into training for the half in July. Only running 7-10km a week at the moment.. a lot happening but there shouldn't be any excuses! I have a 10km fun run this Sunday.. and a 14km fun run in 2 weeks so better start getting serious!
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    I just plotted out my longest planned run yet. This will be my Long Run for next week, after this week's cut back week. Assignment is a FFLR of 1h45-2h15, so I plotted this.

    https://www.strava.com/routes/4964315

    Nice thing is, if I get to the point where I'm too tired to keep running, at Mile 11, I can turn and just walk home, rather than finishing the last 1.2 miles. Goal is to do whole run in under the 135 minute time limit for the run.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    I just plotted out my longest planned run yet. This will be my Long Run for next week, after this week's cut back week. Assignment is a FFLR of 1h45-2h15, so I plotted this.

    https://www.strava.com/routes/4964315

    Nice thing is, if I get to the point where I'm too tired to keep running, at Mile 11, I can turn and just walk home, rather than finishing the last 1.2 miles. Goal is to do whole run in under the 135 minute time limit for the run.

    How bad is the camber on those roads? Whenever I spend a significant portion of the run along a road I get concerned about the camber screwing up my hips or knees due to the constant uneven pavement. I'll often run in the middle of the oncoming lane when it's safe to do so on those roads.
  • louubelle16
    louubelle16 Posts: 579 Member
    @7lenny7 I really enjoyed your race report. I’m hoping to learn from some of your lessons before my first marathon next April. I’m glad your achilles pain seems to be subsiding.

    @RespectTheKitty Well done for getting so far through C25k! Keep it up :)

    @_nikkiwolf_ Personally, I wouldn’t try to really race 2x10kms in one weekend, as when I really push for a PB it takes everything I have. However, you could definitely run both just for the experience and race bling, and try for a PB at the first one?

    @Virkati I’m glad I’m not the only one counting down to my favourite race, even though it’s nearly a year away! Should probably start counting down to my marathon instead...

    @runner_girl83 Good luck with your training!

    Went for what should have been a recovery run today, but seeing as all of last week was at recovery pace and I have had the worst day you can imagine, I needed to do a hard workout and opted to run some hills near me that I've always shied away from. Felt quite proud that I managed one in particular that I've never done in one go before, and it definitely cured the stinker of a day I had :)

    2nd May - 3.06 miles
    3-4th May - poorlysick
    5th May - 2.40 miles
    8th May - 13.1 miles Hackney Half 2:05:24
    12th May - 3.27 miles
    14th May - 3.11 miles
    15th May - 5.08 miles
    17th May - 3.23 miles

    MTD - 33.25/70 miles

    Upcoming races:
    2nd Oct - Tonbridge Half Marathon
    30th Oct - River Thames Half Marathon
    9th April 2017 - Brighton Marathon
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    edited May 2016
    Week 7 day 2 in the books. Ran 2.2 miles without stopping. I could have probably gone 3, but didn't want to push it.

    My ticker is currently inaccessible, but suffice to say I'm in good shape to make my 75 mile run/walk goal. :)
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