Really, a sandwich?
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R_is_for_Rachel wrote: »Think we're luckier in the UK, most premade sandwiches are 300-too came though i have seen some bearer 600
Pret A Manger is a UK chain right? They're my favorite place for sandwiches in NYC since most of them are under 500 calories.0 -
300-400 calories of bread, 100+ calories of condiments, 150 calories of cheese, 100 calories+ of meat...
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I love panera, I swap stuff and use the recipe builder online to make meals that are half sandwich, half salad and fruit cup for 250-400 calories.2
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Are you suprised by this?
Oh, i'm vegetarian, i'll just have a sandwich...
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I don't see why people think the calories should have been obvious to OP. I'm pretty good about estimating calories and I was SHOCKED at a restaurant salad I had been eating that has 830 calories a serving (and this salad has very little cheese and isn't drowned in dressing). If I'm stuck and I absolutely have to eat a sandwich at one of these places, I cut the sandwich in half and call it a day.3
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rainbowbow wrote: »Are you suprised by this?
Oh, i'm vegetarian, i'll just have a sandwich...
No, not surprised at all. In fact I'm more surprised at the number of people who equate vegetarianism with lower calorie diets. I mean, it can be done of course, but with my protein goals getting enough protein on a vegetarian diet would require me to eat a lot more calories than I do. As it is, any meal I eat that's got cheese or tofu tends to be pretty high calorie. Beans are often sneaky calorie smugglers. Put a big hunk of avocado on a sandwich and BAM calorie bomb. (Delicious, but a calorie bomb).4 -
It's really depressing because I love Jimmy John's but my favorite sandwich (Italian Night Club) is 934 calories and 2400mg of sodium!! Not to mention I'd add cherry peppers onto it. And to think I used to eat one of those PLUS a bag of Jimmy Chips at least once a week.1
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Pretty much why I only eat sandwiches when I REALLY crave one. And it's better be good bread... forget Subway. But bread doesn't fill me up, so if I'm going to spend 300 calories on non filling food, it will typically not be a sandwich.3
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R_is_for_Rachel wrote: »Think we're luckier in the UK, most premade sandwiches are 300-too came though i have seen some bearer 600
When I was growing up in the UK, THIS was a ham sandwich. In America (and for all I know now in the UK, too), THIS is a ham sandwich.
Not only has the size ballooned beyond belief, we used to eat EITHER a ham OR a cheese sandwich - literally, one OR the other, not both. In the US, cheese is on ALL sandwiches, a concept that I don't really understand, especially since almost all of the cheese readily available in America is utterly, utterly tasteless, and resembles nothing more than a semi-solid form of creamy milk.3 -
Eat half the sandwich or remove the top piece of bread, or both. Big calorie savers!3
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R_is_for_Rachel wrote: »Think we're luckier in the UK, most premade sandwiches are 300-too came though i have seen some bearer 600
When I was growing up in the UK, THIS was a ham sandwich. In America (and for all I know now in the UK, too), THIS is a ham sandwich.
Not only has the size ballooned beyond belief, we used to eat EITHER a ham OR a cheese sandwich - literally, one OR the other, not both. In the US, cheese is on ALL sandwiches, a concept that I don't really understand, especially since almost all of the cheese readily available in America is utterly, utterly tasteless, and resembles nothing more than a semi-solid form of creamy milk.
I grew up in France and this was a ham sandwich.
So it's not such a huge difference calorie-wise, as the bread is probably most of the calories (and we typically added butter too, which is probably worse calorie-wise than those 6 ounces of ham or something).
But Americans just put way too much stuff in every food item. Makes you wonder if they just want to hide the taste of the bread sometimes (because, let's face it, it really just doesn't compare). Crepes are even worse here... can't taste it at all with how stuffed they are. Sad.1 -
R_is_for_Rachel wrote: »Think we're luckier in the UK, most premade sandwiches are 300-too came though i have seen some bearer 600
It's not hard to find premade sandwiches for 300-400 here either. One I get occasionally is 270.
It's also not hard to find calorie bombs.0 -
In the US, cheese is on ALL sandwiches, a concept that I don't really understand, especially since almost all of the cheese readily available in America is utterly, utterly tasteless, and resembles nothing more than a semi-solid form of creamy milk.
First, this is not true.
Second, it's perfectly possible to get a sandwich with good cheese, and the idea that almost all the cheese readily available in the US is tasteless is just odd. We have many good local cheeses and the ability to buy cheeses from around the world even if there were something inherently inferior about cheese made in the US.13 -
Pretty much why I only eat sandwiches when I REALLY crave one. And it's better be good bread... forget Subway. But bread doesn't fill me up, so if I'm going to spend 300 calories on non filling food, it will typically not be a sandwich.
CO-SIGN x 1000
I mean, awesome sandwiches are AWESOME, but 9 out of 10 sandwiches are meh.
I lurve me some prosciutto and roasted veggies (say, peppers, zucchini, eggplant) and cheese, slathered with pesto on a great roll. OH GOD I WANT ONE RIGHT NOW.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »In the US, cheese is on ALL sandwiches, a concept that I don't really understand, especially since almost all of the cheese readily available in America is utterly, utterly tasteless, and resembles nothing more than a semi-solid form of creamy milk.
First, this is not true.
Second, it's perfectly possible to get a sandwich with good cheese, and the idea that almost all the cheese readily available in the US is tasteless is just odd. We have many good local cheeses and the ability to buy cheeses from around the world even if there were something inherently inferior about cheese made in the US.lemurcat12 wrote: »In the US, cheese is on ALL sandwiches, a concept that I don't really understand, especially since almost all of the cheese readily available in America is utterly, utterly tasteless, and resembles nothing more than a semi-solid form of creamy milk.
First, this is not true.
Second, it's perfectly possible to get a sandwich with good cheese, and the idea that almost all the cheese readily available in the US is tasteless is just odd. We have many good local cheeses and the ability to buy cheeses from around the world even if there were something inherently inferior about cheese made in the US.
Agree. It puzzles me sometimes that more recent arrivals in the US equate what they find in mass-market fast food chains and truck stops etc. with all the food in the US. I mean, the food I've found in European chain restaurants and roadside food is utterly VILE, poor quality, and if I'm LUCKY, tasteless. But that's because it's chain restaurant / truck stop food, not because Europeans all eat nasty food.7 -
I love sandwiches for lunch and make my own. Some products make it easier to keep the calories low. I often use sandwich thins which are 100 calories, or a half of a pita bread which is 110 calories, one large slice of bread and cut it in half, or a low calorie tortilla and make it a wrap. For protein you can use very thin sliced cheeses (Sargento has several) and fat free meats (Celebrity black forest ham available at Trader Joes is 25 calories a slice), or use a fried egg, make a bean spread, or cook a bean burger. Adding extras like lettuce, tomato, etc. will make the sandwich more satisfying, too. Variety, variety, variety!2
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Yeah. ... Make your own! Almost half the calories and the sodium can be much reduced as well.2
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Not even sure when the last time I had a sandwich..0
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Agree. It puzzles me sometimes that more recent arrivals in the US equate what they find in mass-market fast food chains and truck stops etc. with all the food in the US. I mean, the food I've found in European chain restaurants and roadside food is utterly VILE, poor quality, and if I'm LUCKY, tasteless. But that's because it's chain restaurant / truck stop food, not because Europeans all eat nasty food.
Well, I've been observing this for a couple of decades.0 -
Agree. It puzzles me sometimes that more recent arrivals in the US equate what they find in mass-market fast food chains and truck stops etc. with all the food in the US. I mean, the food I've found in European chain restaurants and roadside food is utterly VILE, poor quality, and if I'm LUCKY, tasteless. But that's because it's chain restaurant / truck stop food, not because Europeans all eat nasty food.
Well, I've been observing this for a couple of decades.
I like cheese that tastes like something, not rubber. American and have no problem finding that. Last sandwich I ate had Boar's Head Chipotle Gouda on it, yum. We keep super sharp cheddar on hand at home, and the only good "monterey jack" cheese I have ever found, the Publix store brand. We get queso fresco at the local shop, my daughter makes fresh ricotta and mozarella and paneer cheese, we get French goat milk feta at the middle eastern market, and good cheap brie at the warehouse store, oddly enough, they also have good Parmesan available but for that the step between OK and good isn't big enough to justify the price, to me. Anything we shred ourselves is OK.
The only difference with cheese in the US is that all must be made with sterilized milk, right? In Europe I think you can get cheeses made with raw milk?
Cabot, the US farm collective, makes some really good cheddars. Gawd I love cheese.2
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