Anyone done the Wild Rose Detox
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A few random thoughts.
- I have never done a "cleanse" except to prepare for a colonoscopy. I can't get that day back.
- Wild Rose brings to mind rose hips. Which is a North American fruit and in this part of the world, easily harvestable at any roadside ditch. So are North American fruits in or out?
- Rose hips are very high in vitamin C which might help the urine be more acidic and help prevent re-occurring UTI's.
- I won't even google Wild Rose Cleanse as I don't want the silly thing getting more attention than it deserves.
- Herbal remedies may be dangerous as they are unregulated and one just does not know how much of the active ingredients (if any) will be in the prescribed dose. Some herbal purgatives can be very powerful (translation:dangerous).
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Hi,
I am just wondering if anyone here has done the Wild Rose Detox before. My doctor (and yes an MD) has recommended I do a detox to help flush out colon and kidneys and it also helps detox the liver. There were a couple she recommended, all of which you can still eat on but your food is limited (basically no dairy, carbs, tropical fruit, sugar that type of thing) and you take the supplements. My trainer has used this particular one and really recommends it but I am wondering if anyone on here has done it. My biggest reluctance is the laxative supplement.
Would love to here if anyone has any experience with this one.
Thanks,
An actual MD said this? I think I'd report them to the state licensing board.5 -
Thank you for your opinion but I didn't ask about whether anyone recommends doing a detox, I asked if anyone had tried a particular one.
I have a lot of medical issues and this doctor has been the only one that has gotten me healthy enough that I can workout everyday and have a lot of energy now. She also held my hand through my entire cancer ordeal so I think I will trust her opinion on detox's first.
She out right said not do do any of the one's you don't get to eat and you only drink certain things every day because she says those are unhealthy.
It doesn't matter about this particular one. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse0 -
JenniferLynWhatx wrote: »UTIs are caused by bacteria and should be treated with antibiotics. Herbal substances are not regulated by the FDA, and can therefore be dangerous to take - especially if you have medical conditions requiring you to take certain prescription drugs.
I have done the antibiotic's, and it goes away but then comes back which is why she wants me to try taking some supplements and eliminating things from my diet and see if it helps.
A urinary tract infection is caused by bacteria that grows inside your urinary tract. There is no dietary cause. This is absolute hogwash. If you have chronic UTI issues it could be there is a slight prolapse that causes your bladder not to empty fully, it could be more simple and have to do with how bacteria enters your urethra.
You are getting absolutely DANGEROUS advice.3 -
KittyHeaven74 wrote: »
I know there are naysayers on this thread, but I say do what feels right to you under your doctor's supervision. Kudos for asking around and doing your own research, too.
Do what feels right? Sorry, around here don't stand for unscientific woo and things that can be potentially dangerous.
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MissusMoon wrote: »
An actual MD said this? I think I'd report them to the state licensing board.
Must I repeat myself? Why don't you take a cursory glance at the plan she's asking about before making such a dramatic judgement call? You'd report a doctor to the licensing board without any knowledge whatsoever about the details of their recommendation? Jesus. If you gotta be a snitch at least be an informed snitch.
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MissusMoon wrote: »
An actual MD said this? I think I'd report them to the state licensing board.
Must I repeat myself? Why don't you take a cursory glance at the plan she's asking about before making such a dramatic judgement call? You'd report a doctor to the licensing board without any knowledge whatsoever about the details of their recommendation? Jesus. If you gotta be a snitch at least be an informed snitch.
Between recommending a detox and trying to treat chronic UTI symptoms with diet, yeah, I would.
LOL @ "snitch".
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MissusMoon wrote: »JenniferLynWhatx wrote: »UTIs are caused by bacteria and should be treated with antibiotics. Herbal substances are not regulated by the FDA, and can therefore be dangerous to take - especially if you have medical conditions requiring you to take certain prescription drugs.
I have done the antibiotic's, and it goes away but then comes back which is why she wants me to try taking some supplements and eliminating things from my diet and see if it helps.
A urinary tract infection is caused by bacteria that grows inside your urinary tract. There is no dietary cause. This is absolute hogwash. If you have chronic UTI issues it could be there is a slight prolapse that causes your bladder not to empty fully, it could be more simple and have to do with how bacteria enters your urethra.
You are getting absolutely DANGEROUS advice.
Second this. You can get septicemia from such an infection. It happened to a coworker of mine, otherwise healthy and in her 20s. She ended up in the hospital. Do not take chronic bacteria infections lightly.2 -
As for the UTI, I get one every time I have a spa! I refuse to use them anymore.1
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JenniferLynWhatx wrote: »
No Dietitian & they're Dietitians that solely deal with cancer patients; they're known as Oncology Dietitians!0 -
Ha!I've done the Wild Turkey detox.
Once.
I've done similar 'detoxes', but I never, ever learn.
MissusMoon wrote: »
An actual MD said this? I think I'd report them to the state licensing board.
Must I repeat myself? Why don't you take a cursory glance at the plan she's asking about before making such a dramatic judgement call? You'd report a doctor to the licensing board without any knowledge whatsoever about the details of their recommendation? Jesus. If you gotta be a snitch at least be an informed snitch.
Because detoxes are unnecessary pretty and expensive boxes of woo made up of herbs that make claims that don't deliver.... the body doesn't need to detox. She IS right. There is very dangerous information on here, and a detox won't help with her condition.2 -
I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.0
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DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.5 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.
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Well... I'm not dead and I don't have chronic utis anymore...
Like I said, make your own decision.0 -
I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...1 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...
No. Just no.
Cranberry juice has been a popular folk treatment for years. A decent reason why cranberry might prevent or treat urinary tract infections is still lacking despite five decades of study. An ingredient in cranberry, proanthocyanidins, is thought to block some variants of E. coli bacteria from adhering to bladder cells, which might reduce the risk of infection. But these “fimbriated” bacteria are uncommon in species isolated from urinary tract infections. So even if the theoretical mechanism of action is correct (which remains unproven), the real-world effect, based on this assumption, should be minimal. And that’s largely what the evidence shows, when you account for the poor research quality. But we don’t need to know how it works, if it works. And there is no good evidence that cranberry is an effective treatment for UTIs
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/cranberry-the-alt-med-zombie/1 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...
Most doctors would reccommend antibiotics for a uti.1 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...
Most doctors would reccommend antibiotics for a uti.
You could go that way, too. I guess the talk about detoxes just made me think of alternative medicine.
Do you think that she sees an integrative medicine doctor? I can't imagine many regular physicians prescribing a detox, and I also can't imagine many insurance providers covering naturopaths.1 -
Strawblackcat wrote: »Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...Strawblackcat wrote: »I wouldn't reccomend a full-scale detox for treating a UTI. You don't need the laxatives, and you don't need the cleansing herbs. Mostly, I'd just reccomend cranberry capsules (Cranberry + D-Manose would be better, if you can find them, although they're more pricey. Cranberry juice concentrate can also be used, but try to find it unsweetened), a good probiotic -- preferably one that is optimized for urinary tract issues, and a diuretic along with plenty of clear fluids. Uva Ursi, in particular, can soothe the lining of your urinary tract and can buffer the acidity of your urine slightly, which can help alleviate discomfort. Dandelion is another good diuretic, but I'd go for Uva Ursi instead in your case.
Lots of other fermented foods can help as well. Kombucha, yogurt, kefir, raw saurkraut, ect...
Most doctors would reccommend antibiotics for a uti.
You could go that way, too. I guess the talk about detoxes just made me think of alternative medicine.
Do you think that she sees an integrative medicine doctor? I can't imagine many regular physicians prescribing a detox, and I also can't imagine many insurance providers covering naturopaths.
I'm starting to wonder about this being a real MD.0 -
cerise_noir wrote: »
Because detoxes are unnecessary pretty and expensive boxes of woo made up of herbs that make claims that don't deliver.... the body doesn't need to detox. She IS right. There is very dangerous information on here, and a detox won't help with her condition.
OK look I do agree that the claims are overblown and that the concept of a "detox" is problematic. It's especially problematic to claim it can cure a serious illness without targeted treatment known to work for the condition. To be fair Wild Rose has never made any claims that their dtox kit cures UTI's or any other serious health condition. It's also possible that the OP misunderstood the advice she was given and that this doctor never claimed it would "cure" the condition but that it could help support the changes she needs to make alongside treatment. That would be reasonable.
The concept of "detox" aside, I find this particular plan works well for me. The diet is a sensible and nutritious basic elimination diet with no restrictions in how much you can eat, and the herbs help with water retention and digestion which some of us really do benefit from. Are detoxes necessary? Not really. But I like this one because having a set regimen intervenes in the habit of always finding a reason to eat those certain things (flour, dairy, sugar) "just this time" and in that modest period of time it reminds you that it's possible to cook delicious meals without those ingredients. You could do the diet without the herbs. But I find the herbs a beneficial supplement to the meal plan and when I've done this cleanse (I'm doing it now) I feel energized and refreshed. The herbs aren't necessarily the right blend for everyone and people should do their research on what the ingredients are and what they do. But it isn't necessary for people to pile on the thread like chickens with their heads cut off freaking out about how bad it is when they say, and I quote, that they "won't even google it" because they already know it's awful.
I take issue with how the OP was treated in this thread because it was just a big gang pile on of people treating her with such incredible contempt and rudeness. The atmosphere in this forum is horrifically toxic. There's a narrow line of acceptable discourse and if you step off the path in the slightest people will gang beat you into submission or drive you away from participating. It's disgusting.
We're all adults here and we should know how to treat other people with respect even when we believe they are misguided.
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DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.
I've never heard of Dr. Schulze before so I just looked him up. He looks hokey as all hell and I'd never buy his stuff, but the ingredients in these products are not "DEADLY." Take a chill pill already. This guy is ridiculous but the ingredients are fairly mild pedestrian stuff. Save your OMG DEADLY panic attack for when you find someone schilling something actually deadly, like Monkshood or Belladonna.0 -
DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.
I've never heard of Dr. Schulze before so I just looked him up. He looks hokey as all hell and I'd never buy his stuff, but the ingredients in these products are not "DEADLY." Take a chill pill already. This guy is ridiculous but the ingredients are fairly mild pedestrian stuff. Save your OMG DEADLY panic attack for when you find someone schilling something actually deadly, like Monkshood or Belladonna.
So you are completely fine with him claiming wheat and barley are gluten free?2 -
cerise_noir wrote: »
Because detoxes are unnecessary pretty and expensive boxes of woo made up of herbs that make claims that don't deliver.... the body doesn't need to detox. She IS right. There is very dangerous information on here, and a detox won't help with her condition.
OK look I do agree that the claims are overblown and that the concept of a "detox" is problematic. It's especially problematic to claim it can cure a serious illness without targeted treatment known to work for the condition. To be fair Wild Rose has never made any claims that their dtox kit cures UTI's or any other serious health condition. It's also possible that the OP misunderstood the advice she was given and that this doctor never claimed it would "cure" the condition but that it could help support the changes she needs to make alongside treatment. That would be reasonable.
The concept of "detox" aside, I find this particular plan works well for me. The diet is a sensible and nutritious basic elimination diet with no restrictions in how much you can eat, and the herbs help with water retention and digestion which some of us really do benefit from. Are detoxes necessary? Not really. But I like this one because having a set regimen intervenes in the habit of always finding a reason to eat those certain things (flour, dairy, sugar) "just this time" and in that modest period of time it reminds you that it's possible to cook delicious meals without those ingredients. You could do the diet without the herbs. But I find the herbs a beneficial supplement to the meal plan and when I've done this cleanse (I'm doing it now) I feel energized and refreshed. The herbs aren't necessarily the right blend for everyone and people should do their research on what the ingredients are and what they do. But it isn't necessary for people to pile on the thread like chickens with their heads cut off freaking out about how bad it is when they say, and I quote, that they "won't even google it" because they already know it's awful.
I take issue with how the OP was treated in this thread because it was just a big gang pile on of people treating her with such incredible contempt and rudeness. The atmosphere in this forum is horrifically toxic. There's a narrow line of acceptable discourse and if you step off the path in the slightest people will gang beat you into submission or drive you away from participating. It's disgusting.
We're all adults here and we should know how to treat other people with respect even when we believe they are misguided.
Why would you pick an old thread to argue over? The OP is long gone (although I would like to know what she decided and how it went). Save your mean people thread for a fresh one. All cleanses and detox threads are treated this way to discourage people from wasting their time and money. They are a fad right now--that's it. Glad you are feeling so fine, but alot of people wind up in the bathroom for days and some wind up in the emergency room. We don't want that, now do we?3 -
cerise_noir wrote: »
Because detoxes are unnecessary pretty and expensive boxes of woo made up of herbs that make claims that don't deliver.... the body doesn't need to detox. She IS right. There is very dangerous information on here, and a detox won't help with her condition.
OK look I do agree that the claims are overblown and that the concept of a "detox" is problematic. It's especially problematic to claim it can cure a serious illness without targeted treatment known to work for the condition. To be fair Wild Rose has never made any claims that their dtox kit cures UTI's or any other serious health condition. It's also possible that the OP misunderstood the advice she was given and that this doctor never claimed it would "cure" the condition but that it could help support the changes she needs to make alongside treatment. That would be reasonable.
The concept of "detox" aside, I find this particular plan works well for me. The diet is a sensible and nutritious basic elimination diet with no restrictions in how much you can eat, and the herbs help with water retention and digestion which some of us really do benefit from. Are detoxes necessary? Not really. But I like this one because having a set regimen intervenes in the habit of always finding a reason to eat those certain things (flour, dairy, sugar) "just this time" and in that modest period of time it reminds you that it's possible to cook delicious meals without those ingredients. You could do the diet without the herbs. But I find the herbs a beneficial supplement to the meal plan and when I've done this cleanse (I'm doing it now) I feel energized and refreshed. The herbs aren't necessarily the right blend for everyone and people should do their research on what the ingredients are and what they do. But it isn't necessary for people to pile on the thread like chickens with their heads cut off freaking out about how bad it is when they say, and I quote, that they "won't even google it" because they already know it's awful.
I take issue with how the OP was treated in this thread because it was just a big gang pile on of people treating her with such incredible contempt and rudeness. The atmosphere in this forum is horrifically toxic. There's a narrow line of acceptable discourse and if you step off the path in the slightest people will gang beat you into submission or drive you away from participating. It's disgusting.
We're all adults here and we should know how to treat other people with respect even when we believe they are misguided.
This thread was started in January and was dead until you posted in it recently at the end of page 2. The people you are taking issue with are not here now, so what's the point of dredging up an old thread to complain about it?
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Oh no, that's ridiculous! Sorry, I somehow missed the last sentence of your post. The herbal ingredients are totally fine but that is not OK.DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.
I've never heard of Dr. Schulze before so I just looked him up. He looks hokey as all hell and I'd never buy his stuff, but the ingredients in these products are not "DEADLY." Take a chill pill already. This guy is ridiculous but the ingredients are fairly mild pedestrian stuff. Save your OMG DEADLY panic attack for when you find someone schilling something actually deadly, like Monkshood or Belladonna.
So you are completely fine with him claiming wheat and barley are gluten free?0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »
Why would you pick an old thread to argue over? The OP is long gone (although I would like to know what she decided and how it went). Save your mean people thread for a fresh one. All cleanses and detox threads are treated this way to discourage people from wasting their time and money. They are a fad right now--that's it. Glad you are feeling so fine, but alot of people wind up in the bathroom for days and some wind up in the emergency room. We don't want that, now do we?
I found this thread because I was searching for threads on the Wild Rose cleanse specifically, to see if I could find some accounts of peoples experiences or recipe ideas and this was what I found instead. It IS possible to discourage practices that are actually dangerous without attacking or degrading the person who asked about it, or painting all plans with the same brush without any knowledge behind it. Someone should be able to bring this up without having their thread coopted by people screaming at them about how their doctor should be in jail.
People who "end up in the bathroom for days" should halve, quarter, or cut out the laxative blend. There's no reason to torture yourself if you're more sensitive to it than other people. As with anything you try, be it herbal supplements, new medication, exercise, or diet you should always carefully monitor how its effecting you and recognize when it's too hard on you. When you take new meds that hit you way harder than expected a doctor will tell you to reduce your dose. It's always about finding what works for your particular body.0 -
People on this site are so vicious. The Wild Rose cleanse is nothing more than a sensible back to basics "clean eating" meal plan [...] The contents of the herbal supplements are all common and safe, no weird "miracle cure" crap here.
well... it is called a cleanse for a reason. not a good reason and certainly not one based on any sort of evidence that it cleanses anything of anything or, say, cures urinary tract infections. maybe its called that because doing so encourages people to believe that taking the supplements cleans something of something and therefore said supplements are something one should pay for.
second, oddly enough, the best way to stop eating certain foods is to, well, stop eating them. which is probably why one gives up bread and cheese whenever one stops eating flour and dairy products - rather than the result of taking herbs, magical or otherwise - though that is just a wild guess on my part.
as for the post right above that... "everyone knows that your liver and kidney can only handle so many toxins" i don't even know where to start with the so-very-many things wrong with that statement...1 -
abernathysymthe wrote: »People on this site are so vicious. The Wild Rose cleanse is nothing more than a sensible back to basics "clean eating" meal plan [...] The contents of the herbal supplements are all common and safe, no weird "miracle cure" crap here.
well... it is called a cleanse for a reason. not a good reason and certainly not one based on any sort of evidence that it cleanses anything of anything or, say, cures urinary tract infections. maybe its called that because doing so encourages people to believe that taking the supplements cleans something of something and therefore said supplements are something one should pay for.
second, oddly enough, the best way to stop eating certain foods is to, well, stop eating them. which is probably why one gives up bread and cheese whenever one stops eating flour and dairy products - rather than the result of taking herbs, magical or otherwise - though that is just a wild guess on my part.
as for the post right above that... "everyone knows that your liver and kidney can only handle so many toxins" i don't even know where to start with the so-very-many things wrong with that statement...
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm to indicate that the entire post was tongue in cheek.0 -
Oh no, that's ridiculous! Sorry, I somehow missed the last sentence of your post. The herbal ingredients are totally fine but that is not OK.DancingMoosie wrote: »I haven't done that detox, but I have used many of Dr. Schulze's products. Especially for chronic UTIs, I've used his kidney/bladder drops and tea. You can look for his herbal formulas at herbdoc.com and decide for yourself.
Just no. Looking through some of those products and they can be DEADLY.
On the website "blockage is the root of all disease"- no no no.
This is just another snake oil salesman who's products can actually be dangerous. Avoid!
ETA- this guy states his products are gluten free, even though some have wheat and barley. Definitely not someone you want to be taking advice from.
I've never heard of Dr. Schulze before so I just looked him up. He looks hokey as all hell and I'd never buy his stuff, but the ingredients in these products are not "DEADLY." Take a chill pill already. This guy is ridiculous but the ingredients are fairly mild pedestrian stuff. Save your OMG DEADLY panic attack for when you find someone schilling something actually deadly, like Monkshood or Belladonna.
So you are completely fine with him claiming wheat and barley are gluten free?
Maybe you are misunderstanding the ingredients. I'm pretty sure he only uses wheat grass and barley grass, which are gluten free. Only the seed kernel, the endosperm, contains gluten, not the stem and leaves.0
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