FDA approves weight loss stomach pump device
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »MorganMoreaux wrote: »So this has to be done 30 minutes after eating, does this mean Resturaunt bathrooms with be consumed by people pumping their stomachs? The concept makes me a little queasy, walking in and hearing/smelling it would probably make me vomit.
I took care of a friend who was dying of cancer. They had a j-tube to get nutrients as they had esophageal cancer that had spread to their stomachs. It was not a pleseant experience for them having to live with the tube, and I really don't foresee many people being able to maintain stomach pumping as it is going to be more involved than they anticipate, and it's very inconvenient to live with a tube in your gut, regardless of the port. While it sounds quick and easy, having to functionally live with this is a totally different issue, one that I don't think many people will be able to tolerate.
I have my opinions on this procedure, and all the points I could make have been said in this thread so I'm not going to parrot other posts. For whoever gets this done I wish them the best of luck and hope it works out for them.
Instead of a doggie bag they hand you a vomit bag so you can dump while the waiter is getting your check.
This made me laugh harder than it should have.
It's even funnier when you read it in Kermit's voice!0 -
I have not read the conversation, but if you are required to a follow a supervised "lifestyle" program for this method to be successful as per this article, then what's the point? Couldn't you just follow said supervised lifestyle program (dietitian) and lose weight without it?
Forget the risks, the very short term lackluster results (equivalent to a 250 calorie deficit or less for a 200 pound person), or the redundancy of such a procedure.. why on earth would I want to stand in the bathroom doing nothing but smelling puke for a whole 10 minutes after every meal? People may see potential for abuse, I see potential for compliance issues.4 -
As a former bulimic, I hate that my mind immediately jumps to "God I wish I had one." Sigh... As a rational person, I think it's pretty terrible. Still not as terrible as that torture device that I remember being advertised at my orthodontist's office as a kid. They would literally wire your jaw shut so that you had to eat a liquid diet.... But this one is a close second in terribleness.10
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I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=198409230
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I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
That makes the hair on my neck stand on end... yet it's still not as disturbingly nauseating as the stomach pump idea.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
That makes the hair on my neck stand on end... yet it's still not as disturbingly nauseating as the stomach pump idea.
Well, you could use the pump to lose, and then once you hit goal, you can have the patch sewn on as a forcible measure to prevent overeating.
Then, you never have utilize will power, self control, or effort.2 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
OMG. I can't believe the things some people will do to lose weight. So sick and pitiful.
Much easier, and may be more sustainable in the long run, just to learn portion control & moderation.
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This upsets me. All it is is reverse bulimia.I don't understand why people are worrying about eating disorders. Do they worry about eating disorders for bariatric surgery? This has the same general requirements - must be at a high BMI, must have tried to lose weight through other means, must be in a situation where weight loss is the most healthy thing they can do for themselves. It seems like completely unnecessary worry, people looking for reasons to be angry at this device because they think it's gross without actually being logical about it. In fact, this is just the feeding tube given to anorexic patients in reverse, and without inpatient. Seems like a great tool for someone with BED or other kinds of disordered binge eating.
I think it's gross but I might think differently if I had a BMI of 45 and had been struggling for years to lose weight and knew that if I didn't lose weight I would be in mortal danger very soon. You know what's also gross? Colostomy bags. That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist; it just means that medical intervention is sometimes necessarily gross.
Man, the people on this forum are so judgy and irrational sometimes.
No. They're. Not.
This tool is reverse bulimia-instead of getting rid of the food by throwing it up, you are emptying it out of your stomach via a tube. Sure, that eliminates the stomach acid irritating your throat and causing future medical issues, including the possibility of throat cancer from too much acid in your throat.
I was severely overweight when I was bulimic as a teen and young adult (treated, been in remission for over 30 years), so this tool would have worked just fine for me. It would have been the perfect way to avoid the elephant in my living room (no pun intended).
Also, it seems to me that a person who obviously has an eating problem has the green light to continue overeating. Well, getting rid of the food is not the problem to obesity, overeating is. So, this tool is just a band aid to a problem that needs to be dealt with.
People have the choice of whether to eat too much or not.
AS for the colostomy bags, those are because people can't poop in the normal way anymore, usually due to having a good part of their colon removed from cancer. The bag is there because of a serious medical condition. It's not even in the same ballpark as a tube in your stomach to get rid of food.9 -
If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won2
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suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Your not meant to eat crap with wls but I know many who do/did and lie to their doctors(not surprisingly they didnt do well)...with any wls it all depends on the honesty and willingness to change of the person undergoing the procedure.1 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
As horrific as that is, that article is unintentionally funny in places.1 -
I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way would I ever do the tongue patch2 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......0 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......
I'm having a bad image of you going somewhere with a significant other and getting looks.
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amusedmonkey wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »If youd asked Me 50lb ago would you be interested in a gadget that allowed you to keep eating crap while pretending to a therapist you're doing it right and lose weight OR take control of our own life and learn how to eat in moderation......hmmmmm. no contest pump may well have won
The thing is, you're not allowed to eat crap with this device. You are closely monitored to eat a "lifestyle changing diet". You also don't qualify if you have a history of eating disorder. It just has no point in my opinion since you will be dieting anyway.
Problem is, they can't possibly be monitored 24/7. If they ate and digested the healthy diet and then gorged on whatever and pumped it out, how would it be known?0 -
suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »suzyjane1972 wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »I think we should still just go back to this: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/pain-weight-loss-tongue-patch-diet/story?id=19840923
I had gum surgery last year with stitches in the front of my mouth for over two weeks, I nearly went bonkers. That was the most terrible two weeks of my life. The worst part of this story was the gum surgery didn't take and I had to do it again. I guarantee everyone that stitches in your mouth is no fun whatsoever, I couldn't imagine someone requesting this sort of torture.
Yep 4 wisdom tooth removal....over 100 stitches and a mouth butchered. No way woukd I ever do the tongue patch
Like I'd rather gouge my eye out!
Painkillers lasted about 20 minutes and I looked like I had been used as a punching bag....worst pain ever and I've been left with a jaw that clicks and every now and again locks. Enforced liquid diet that week. I was cut from top to bottom and from jaw to fangs top and bottom......
I'm having a bad image of you going somewhere with a significant other and getting looks.
Oh that was fun......I've never made an assumption about why a person looks bruised and battered since.1
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