June (2016) Running Challenge

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  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    PoppetsMaster wrote: »
    First pain free run since my fall on June 3.... only 5 miles, but it's a start. Had to modify my monthly goal from 180 to 100, which still might be a stretch, but I just can't do a sub-100 mile month.

    @Stoshew71, @MobyCarp , @Ohhim... I have a 50k in a little under three weeks, but have run very few miles this month due to injury... do any of you see any reason why I can't just skip the taper and maybe only back off the miles a couple days before the race? My legs feel fresh, but my gut tells me I need couple of 15s and maybe a 20 prior to race day.

    You've already got a couple of good replies, so take this for what it's worth.

    There's physiology, and there's psychology. If you need a 20 mile run to be confident, then do a 20 mile run.

    From a physiological standpoint, you're off the planned program of train hard and then taper to recover and heal up stuff that you didn't even notice needed healing. There's not a lot of common wisdom on how to approach this, and I've never been in that position for a marathon. I've never run an ultra.

    The closest cognate in my history was my second half marathon. I was coming off a stress fracture that put me in a boot, and gradually building the mileage back up. I was running everything easy, no speed work. Got my long run up to 10 miles the week before the half, then I went and ran the half. Didn't run it at a true race pace, and I still had to slow down the last 4 miles because my foot ached, but I finished. That remains my slowest half marathon to date, out of the 9 I've run.

    So there you have it. Coming of injury, I built from a start of a quarter mile run up to the half marathon distance with no taper, because I needed all the time I had to build the distance up to 13 miles. Don't know how relevant that is to your situation, where your injury wasn't as severe so you weren't knocked back as far, and your race is an ultra instead of a half. Guess you just have to figure out what you think will work for you, and do the best you can.
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    Oh Jeez@MobyCarp I think That sign described my day today, and it's only Day One! My HM isn't until 7/4....It's going to be a long 2 weeks!
  • MobyCarp
    MobyCarp Posts: 2,927 Member
    June Running Totals (miles)
    6/1 – rest day
    6/2 – 6.11 easy
    6/3 – rest day
    6/4 – 7.21 easy with hills
    6/5 – 7.42 easy
    6/6 – rest day
    6/7 – 8.56 easy
    6/8 – rest day
    6/9 – 8.01 easy
    6/10 – rest day
    6/11 – 10.09 with hills and humidity
    6/12 – 6.21 easy with 1 stride
    6/13 – rest day
    6/14 – run squeezed out of schedule
    6/15 – rest day 7.00 group run
    6/16 – 4.02 in 3 pieces
    6/17 – rest day
    6/18 – 4.83 aborted pace run
    6/19 – 8.27 hot and humid
    6/20 – rest day
    6/21 – 7.18 warmup, speed work, cool down

    June total to date – 84.91

    Nominal Challenge Goal – 100 miles
    Real Goals: Recover from injury to the point where running feels normal again. Stretch goal, recover to the point where I can run at race pace.

    Today's notes – Got to the club workout a bit late, ran the 2 mile warmup and got back too late to do the lap of drills. Just as well; I was geared up for some easy speed work, but not for drills. The fast assignment was 4 x 200 at R with 200 recovery, 3 x 600 at R with 400 recovery, 4 x 200 at R with 200 recovery. That would look challenging to me even when healthy, and right now I'm not up to running at R pace. The workout for members planning to run the Boilermaker 15K was 2 miles easy, 3 x 2 miles at T with 3 minutes recovery, 2 miles easy. As attractive as the Boilermaker workout was, it's beyond my capability right now. I took the idea and watered it down a lot to 2 x 1 mile at T with 3 minutes recovery. Set out for the easy before and the first mile with some people doing the full Boilermaker workout, and couldn't keep up with them on the first T interval. Took my 3 minutes easy, then turned around and did my other mile. More easy distance, and got back to base after running a bit over 5 miles, in addition to the 2 mile warmup.

    Temperature was 77, and humidity didn't seem too bad when I was running; but the sweat was pretty obvious when I stopped. Got in some good stretches, and reflected on how it went. The bad news is, 2 x 1 mile at T was harder and slower than I remember. The first mile at T came in at 6:48, and the second at 6:42. I just didn't have anything faster in me today. The good news is, the recovering leg is enough better that I can whine about how out of shape I am. I felt the leg more after the second speed interval, which tells me I pushed it hard enough and really shouldn't be doing 2 mile speed intervals today anyway.

    Things being as they are, I'll take tomorrow as a planned rest day then run some easy miles on Thursday. I've kind of got it in the back of my mind that my base isn't very big right now, so a lot of speed work probably isn't that good of an idea. But at least I was able to do an easier speed workout today. That's something to hang on to, as I work my way back into shape for racing.

    FWIW, my friend Bill spent some time today trying to convince me to run some races in October. While I'm receptive to the idea, right now I'm not totally healthy and just not feeling terribly competitive. That could change by October; but longer term, I want to be healthy for Boston 2017. So right now, my muted aspirations are along the lines of finish the 4 Seasons Challenge by running Shoreline and Rochester, and try to get healthy and stay healthy.

    2016 races:
    January 1, 2016 Resolution Run 7.5 mile (Mendon, NY) finished in 53:58
    January 9, 2016 Winter Warrior Half Marathon (Gates, NY) finished in 1:30:59
    March 12, 2016 Johnny's Runnin' of the Green 5 mile (Rochester, NY) finished in 32:32
    March 26, 2016 Spring Forward Distance Run 15K (Mendon, NY) finished in 1:05:24
    April 18, 2016 Boston Marathon (Hopkinton, MA) finished in 3:23:01
    April 24, 2016 Flower City Challenge Half Marathon (Rochester, NY) finished in 1:36:50, targeting MP
    May 15, 2016 Highland Hospital Lilac Run 10K (Rochester, NY) DNS - injury
    June 19, 2016 Medved 5K to Cure ALS (Rochester, NY) DNS - recovering from face plant
    July 16, 2016 Shoreline Half Marathon (Hamlin, NY)
    September 18, 2016 Rochester Marathon (Rochester, NY)
    November 24, 2016 Race with Grace 10K (Hilton, NY)
  • katharmonic
    katharmonic Posts: 5,720 Member
    Had a speed workout tonight for my half marathon training group. We did a reverse ladder of 4-3-2-1 minutes with 1 minute rest and then 1-2-3-4 minutes with 2 minutes between. Then sprints. It was tough but thank goodness the weather was so much cooler tonight. Beautiful night for running. Between the workout and the warmup and cooldown I put in 5.9 miles.

    Getting close to my June goal!

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  • 1TheQueenB
    1TheQueenB Posts: 377 Member

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    I got through it but my bra turned against me the other day! I guess it's called chaffing! What's the remedy and how do I prevent this???
  • Ohhim
    Ohhim Posts: 1,142 Member
    1TheQueenB wrote: »

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    I got through it but my bra turned against me the other day! I guess it's called chaffing! What's the remedy and how do I prevent this???

    For leg chafing, body glide (or speed stick solid) usually prevents it at my end.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
    1TheQueenB wrote: »

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    I got through it but my bra turned against me the other day! I guess it's called chaffing! What's the remedy and how do I prevent this???

    I gave up on bras years ago, and wear camisole shapers: often without a shirt over them (if they aren't TOO underwear looking....). They give me plenty support and there is nothing to chafe!
  • 5BeautifulDays
    5BeautifulDays Posts: 683 Member
    1TheQueenB wrote: »

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    I got through it but my bra turned against me the other day! I guess it's called chaffing! What's the remedy and how do I prevent this???

    God only knows.

    I try to make sure that I only wear bras that aren't too big (more rubbing as they move around). I haven't had a lot of luck with vaseline or body glide. Oh...and I don't wear tanks for my long runs, even though they're cooler, because the edges of my bra will start to chafe my under arms after about 4-5 miles.
  • 5BeautifulDays
    5BeautifulDays Posts: 683 Member
    instantmartian wrote: »
    5BeautifulDays wrote: »
    Hey @instantmartian , did you go to Firefly? I've wanted to do that one for a few years but was thinking I might be a little out of the age demographic. I need to convince one of my teens to go with me so I won't be embarrassed, lol.
    I did go to Firefly! I was there in 2013, and again this year. I had tickets for 2014, but had to sell them due to a wedding in California the same weekend, and last year, my boyfriend couldn't take off to go. The dynamic has changed a bit since the first time we were there (I credit the number of EDM bands for bringing the median age down), and at the age of 32, my boyfriend and I were definitely on the older end of the spectrum, but we both know a few other people our age who were there, and there were absolutely quite a few people 50+. In fact, there was a group of ladies who were definitely in their early 50s standing next to us for Ludacris. I know for a fact since Luda said something about everyone over the age of 25 doing something, and the one lady turned to her friend, laughed, and said, "My, God. I'm twice that!" They were having an absolute blast. There was also a guy who was probably around the same age dressed as a bee at Elle King. I think he might be my new idol. Mind you, it was pushing 90 degrees at that point. Anyway, you totally need to go. It is a looooonnnnngg four days, but it is so worth it.
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    I love bee guy!

    At 45, I am *not* the demographic. Except I totally am because being 45 doesn't mean I don't like music! My kids laugh at me because their friends will be all "hey, have you heard this new song?" and they're all "yeah, my mom's been listening to it on Alt Nation for 2 months, dude." LOL

    However, my old creaky 45-year-old body would be camping in a hotel, thank you very much!

    Oh...and I did PT and 3 miles on the dreadmill watching Pride & Prejudice and Zombies. Tomorrow is long run day--for my knees, let us pray...


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  • ROBOTFOOD
    ROBOTFOOD Posts: 5,527 Member
    Just did a lil 3miler in the hills. Waited for it to cool down to 108f to run. :) Minimal vertical (603ft). My recent heat training is paying off big-time!
  • biscuitnow
    biscuitnow Posts: 141 Member

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    3km run this morning - I'm still feeling kind of crappy and exhausted and I hope it's not one of my health conditions acting up, though it could just be my MA thesis that's stressing me out. Either way, I felt like I could not do 5K this morning. No way.

    Ah, running in a sports bra. That sounds like heaven to me! Unfortunately, I have rather a lot of flab (no longer overweight, but not thin by any standards) and am reasonably muscular underneath (which makes for a chunky look ;) ) and I wouldn't dare to take off my tank. I look too much like an excited pony already. :lol:
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    1 June – 10 km with friends for Global Running Day
    3 June – 10 km
    4 June – 5 km parkrun
    5 June – 18 km – furthest distance yet!
    7 June – 7 km
    (11-12 June – 42 km of mountain bushwalking, The Serra Terror)
    (18 June – First time as parkrun Run Director)
    19 June – 6.4 km
    20 June – 6 km
    22 June – 8.5 km

    Goal: 150 km (93 miles)
    Total run: 70.9 km (44 miles)
    Total walked & run: kittenloads

    Being back running after the Serra Terror feels awesome! I feel like running every day!

    But I'm trying to learn from past events... I'd booked a race the weekend after I did it, but cancelled because I didn't want to overdo it in the end.

    It's such a tightrope, staying ahead of the injuries.
  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member 
    Date      Miles      MTD
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June  1    5.1       5.1  
June  2    5.6      10.7  
June  4    5.8      16.5 
June  5    4.2      20.7 
June  7    4.2      24.9 
June  9    5.1      30.0
June 10    4.3      34.3
June 11   13.2      47.5
June 12    3.7      51.2
June 15    5.6      56.8
June 18   10.2      67.0
June 19    5.1      72.1
June 22    4.3      76.4

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  • 9voice9
    9voice9 Posts: 693 Member
    01-Jun: 3.28 miles
    02-Jun: 6.88 miles
    03-Jun: 6.89 miles
    04-Jun: 7.75 miles
    05-Jun: <Life Day>
    06-Jun: 9.44 miles
    07-Jun: 5.31 miles
    08-Jun: 3.52 miles
    09-Jun: 5.60 miles plus 1.01 miles (walk)
    10-Jun:
    11-Jun: 6.56 miles
    12-Jun: <Life Day>
    13-Jun: 6.00 miles
    14-Jun: 7.37 miles
    15-Jun: 3.10 miles
    16-Jun: 6.78 miles
    17-Jun: 7.51 miles
    18-Jun: 10.20 miles
    19-Jun: <Life Day>
    20-Jun: 7.12 miles
    21-Jun: 7.29 miles
    22-Jun: 4.27 miles
    23-Jun:
    24-Jun:
    25-Jun:
    26-Jun: <Life Day>
    27-Jun:
    28-Jun:
    29-Jun:
    30-Jun:

    85.8% completed.... But I need to up the mileage if I'm gonna get in 2016 miles this year.

    Upcoming Races:
    25-Jun: Cornerstone 5K, Byron
    04-Jul: Peachtree Road Race 10K, Atlanta, GA
    13-Aug: Apple-a-Day 5K, Macon
    05-Sep: Labor Day Road Race 10K
    17-Sep: Joshua's Wish 5K
    24-Sep: Georgia Golden Olympics 5K
    22-Oct: S.C.A.R.E. 5K, Macon

    Another pretty good run - I think I like this new route. But I don't want to wear it out too quickly, so I need to limit my exposure. :smiley:

    Or maybe just that it's unseasonably cool - 68 degrees at the outset! Love it.

    Re: @AdrianChr92's article (http://bluerockpublicradio.com/study-glancing-at-that-running-shirtless-guy-confirms-your-homosexuality/) - I guess I'm bi or something 'cause I like looking at fit folks regardless of their sex. Been watching the Olympic Diving Trials and appreciating not just their looks, but appreciating the work that goes into getting there (and staying there!).
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    6/1- 4.17
    6/2- 5.79
    6/3-Rest
    6/4-12.25
    6/5-Rest
    6/6- Rest
    6/7-5.03
    6/8-Rest
    6/9-5.0
    6/10- Rest
    6/11-10k race
    6/12- Rest/recovery
    6/13- Rest
    6/14- 9.12
    6/15- 4.02
    6/16- 6.7
    6/17- Rest
    6/18- 12.5 Miles
    6/19- REST
    6/20- REST
    6/21- 3.0 <--First Taper Run
    6/22 4.05

    Total: 77.68/100

    Second shorter run of Taper Week 1. Ran 4 miles averaging 10:20 and managed negative splits. HOWEVER, my left knee started acting up, and there was a little twinge in my right Achilles. I'm thinking my training has caught up with me...I'm really thinking about cutting back even more than my taper calls for. I'm struggling with this though, because I've been pushing so hard that even taper sucks.....

    ......However, I don't want to be injured for my HM in 12 days. I've been running 20+ MPW since mid April, and have Averaged just under 30 MPW over the last 4 weeks, and have 3 12+ mile runs under my belt, so I "know" that I have the training in, just not feeling happy about this new issue....

    Any advice on keeping me going but at an easier routine so I can recover more?
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    Date Miles today. Miles for June
    6/1 5 miles - 5 << Another recovery run.
    6/2 6.5 miles - 11.5
    6/3 REST DAY (unplanned but necessary)
    6/4 13.5 miles - 25
    6/5 REST DAY
    6/6 8 miles 33
    6/6 4 miles 37 << Daily Double
    6/7 9 miles 46
    6/7 5 miles 51 << Daily Double
    6/8 6.2 miles 57.2
    6/9 9 miles 66.2
    6/10 6.2 miles 72.4
    6/11 18 miles 90.4
    6/12 REST DAY
    6/13 9 miles 99.4
    6/13 4 miles 103.4 << Daily Double
    6/14 9 miles 112.4
    6/14 4 miles 116.4 << Daily Double
    6/15 6.2 miles 122.6
    6/16 9 miles 131.6
    6/16 5 miles 136.6 << Daily Double FF Pub Run at Yellowhammer
    6/17 6.2 miles 142.8
    6/18 18 miles 160.8
    6/19 REST DAY
    6/20 9 miles 169.8
    6/20 4 miles 173.8 << Daily Double
    6/21 9 miles 182.8
    6/21 4 miles 186.8 << Daily Double
    6/22 5 miles 191.8


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    Upcoming races:
    UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
    Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
    Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
    PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
    Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
    Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25
    Rocket City Marathon - 12/10


    I think it's time to taper for this race this Saturday. I didn't feel it this morning and cut my run a mile short and one of my slowest runs in a while. Turned it into an easy recovery run. It's been a little cooler this week too. Monday and yesterday, I did pick the pace up a little bit, so maybe now I am starting to feel it. In any case, I take it as a sign to start tapering.

  • HSM2673
    HSM2673 Posts: 48 Member

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