June (2016) Running Challenge
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Okay, from this moment on, I can actually say I only did one run in the past 7 days. Too much hiking and sightseeing in this vacation, most days my legs and feet were sore enough in the evening. Today is actually the first day that we decided to search for a campsite early, already around 2pm - but only because it´s too hot (>90F) to do anything more than occasional walks to the lake for a round of swimming, and than it´s back to lazing around and reading. They promised a thunderstorm for tonight, I hope that means it will cool down!
@skippygirlsmom I only ever had a nail turn that color once, and it fell off a few days later. In winter, fortunately, so it didn´t mess up any pretty colored-nails-in-sandals look. Though I´ve read about people (runners, obviously ^^) just painting the toe instead of the nail when the nails are gone...
@Elise4270 That´s great that your son started running now too! Too bad you can´t run with him irhgt now - but thanks to the surgery, you´ll hopefully run many many miles with him painfree very soon!
@RespectTheKitty Great that you are feeling better!
@MNLittleFinn Can you do a short loop to test that hydration belt? I´ve tried enough "clever" hydration solutions and gotten horribly annoyed at them before I found a belt I like, I wouldn´t want to drag sime jiggly chafing thing along on a long run or a race.
@Orphia You already ran 18km - of course you can finish a half marathon! What little distance is missing, the race day exitement will more than make up for. Go for it!
@greenolivetree Even if the dog was probably friendly, I would have been scared too! Glad nothing bad happened.
P.S. Don´t mind the funny accents in place of apostrophes - I poured orange juice over my laptop, now the keyboard won´t work, so I had to buy a Swiss USB keyboard instead. Now I don´t find any of the special characters I´m looking for - they are mixed up all over the place!3 -
@kristinegift The only time I have the twitchy muscle is when they are tired. It could be an imbalance or just plain ol' tired. I'd just try some basics, massage, fluids and rest. It sounds like it could be that peroneal longus muscle.
Have you changed shoes? Need new shoes? Changed terrain?
Edit- After rereading your symptoms, the stop and it goes away with rest but flares with running, sounds like it could be threatening tendonitis.1 -
*drumroll* Today, I'm wearing tennis shoes! I had to wear my big clunky boot to get to the office, but changed into my tennies as soon as I got to my desk. I'm walking pretty well in regular shoes--in short, even steps. That's a big improvement from just a few days ago when I wasn't able to backstride with my left foot at all (I had to step forward on the left, then step even with my right). I'm not moving very fast, but at least I'm moving!
I can feel my return to running getting closer every day! Of course, it probably won't be until late July or August, but at least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
In other exciting news, I finally got to shower without a waterproof cover over my leg this morning. I had spent the last three weeks washing my foot and lower leg with baby wipes, so being able to shower like a normal person was beyond exhilarating!
Now for the not-so-happy life update: We're scheduled to close on our new house next Friday, but the chances of that actually happening are looking pretty grim. The property appraisal that I paid for on May 20th, and was supposedly done in early June, has still not been turned in to the lender. It's the LAST thing we're waiting on--and it's hugely important. Getting very frustrated at this point... The idea of closing being delayed by this just pisses me off. It would be one thing if we had not been prompt at taking care of everything or had put a short closing deadline in the contract, but that's not the case. And I have zero control over the situation, which just makes it that much worse!5 -
ceciliaslater wrote: »*drumroll* Today, I'm wearing tennis shoes! I had to wear my big clunky boot to get to the office, but changed into my tennies as soon as I got to my desk. I'm walking pretty well in regular shoes--in short, even steps. That's a big improvement from just a few days ago when I wasn't able to backstride with my left foot at all (I had to step forward on the left, then step even with my right). I'm not moving very fast, but at least I'm moving!
I can feel my return to running getting closer every day! Of course, it probably won't be until late July or August, but at least I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
In other exciting news, I finally got to shower without a waterproof cover over my leg this morning. I had spent the last three weeks washing my foot and lower leg with baby wipes, so being able to shower like a normal person was beyond exhilarating!
Now for the not-so-happy life update: We're scheduled to close on our new house next Friday, but the chances of that actually happening are looking pretty grim. The property appraisal that I paid for on May 20th, and was supposedly done in early June, has still not been turned in to the lender. It's the LAST thing we're waiting on--and it's hugely important. Getting very frustrated at this point... The idea of closing being delayed by this just pisses me off. It would be one thing if we had not been prompt at taking care of everything or had put a short closing deadline in the contract, but that's not the case. And I have zero control over the situation, which just makes it that much worse!
Happy for the good news! Awful about the appraisal, light some fires! We had ours done last week or so and it was emailed to us already. Someone should be able to get that done ASAP. Dang things are not cheap. Fingers crossed for you and I'm sending mental fires to someones lazy kitten.
Sounds like you and I both will be on a similar time frame on the return to running program.0 -
60min easy tempo to start the day. 7.6mi (7:54/mi)
Best of luck to all racing this weekend and happy training!!1 -
@_nikkiwolf_ sadly, My next run is my long run. Other option is to not wear it at all tomorrow, and just try it out on my Easy Run Sunday or Tuesday. Might be doing that instead. Other option is, just to get a feel, wear it on our family walk tonight.
Edit: Looks like the belt is a definite no go. Wife didn't notice that it's a LARGE. There's like maybe half an inch of Velcro attached when I have it tight enough to stay on when I'm standing still....too bad, it's a pretty cool belt.0 -
Snuck a running mile into my walk today. One more mile to go until I hit my goal. Felling pretty good.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »@_nikkiwolf_ sadly, My next run is my long run. Other option is to not wear it at all tomorrow, and just try it out on my Easy Run Sunday or Tuesday. Might be doing that instead. Other option is, just to get a feel, wear it on our family walk tonight.
Wear it on your long run. Be prepared to have an early stop if you find after you start moving that you need to adjust it. Pay attention to how it rids, and whether it chafes. Some of that can be fixed with adjustment, but if that's needed you might not have enough time to find the right adjustments before race day. On the plus side, it's possible that everything will work right the first time, or that an early adjustment will give you a good result for the rest of the run. If that happens on your long run, you can feel good about wearing the new hydration belt on race day.
FWIW - I recently got a new hydration belt. I *thought* I adjusted it right at home, and it rode sideways on me the first time out. That was tolerable but not ideal. Tightened it up a bit for the next time out, and it's been good since then, through a few runs. Now I would have no problem wearing it to a race; but if a race longer than 5K had been the day after the first time I tried it, I would have worn my older and predictable hydration belt for the race.0 -
Bummer. I'd throw it on eBay and search for you're size. I wear a SZ small with the Ultimate Direction Hydration vests. I have the SJ. The Medium was way bigger than I thought. And I'm 6'0 150MNLittleFinn wrote: »
Edit: Looks like the belt is a definite no go. Wife didn't notice that it's a LARGE. There's like maybe half an inch of Velcro attached when I have it tight enough to stay on when I'm standing still....too bad, it's a pretty cool belt.
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@cljoe7 I'm not particularly afraid of dogs but also not really an animal lover. I have a dachshund but he's special
The dog this morning was in the middle - not super aggressive but also did not come across as a friendly/playful. Plus I started out spooked thinking it was a coyote. I have seen a coyote .25 mile from my house but I'm not likely to run into one if I stay in neighborhoods away from fields. I went too far into still being developed land.
@ceciliaslater Great news for you!
@lporter229 I could get lost in a neighborhood like that also
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Date Miles today. Miles for June
6/1 5 miles - 5 << Another recovery run.
6/2 6.5 miles - 11.5
6/3 REST DAY (unplanned but necessary)
6/4 13.5 miles - 25
6/5 REST DAY
6/6 8 miles 33
6/6 4 miles 37 << Daily Double
6/7 9 miles 46
6/7 5 miles 51 << Daily Double
6/8 6.2 miles 57.2
6/9 9 miles 66.2
6/10 6.2 miles 72.4
6/11 18 miles 90.4
6/12 REST DAY
6/13 9 miles 99.4
6/13 4 miles 103.4 << Daily Double
6/14 9 miles 112.4
6/14 4 miles 116.4 << Daily Double
6/15 6.2 miles 122.6
6/16 9 miles 131.6
6/16 5 miles 136.6 << Daily Double FF Pub Run at Yellowhammer
6/17 6.2 miles 142.8
6/18 18 miles 160.8
6/19 REST DAY
6/20 9 miles 169.8
6/20 4 miles 173.8 << Daily Double
6/21 9 miles 182.8
6/21 4 miles 186.8 << Daily Double
6/22 5 miles 191.8
6/23 5.5 miles 197.3
6/24 3.1 miles 200.4
Upcoming races:
UAH 8K - 3/6 <<< 34:33 3 in AG
Oak Barrel HM - 4/2 <<<< 1:38:00 3 in AG
Bridge Street HM - 4/10 <<< 1:36:33 3 in AG
PEO-AVN Team Day 5K - 5/4 <<< 19:10 (2.9 mi) 1 in AG 5 OA
Cotton Row Run 10K - 5/30 << 44:57 PR
Firecracker Chase 10.2 miler 6/25
Rocket City Marathon - 12/10
I got sidetracked here in the office. I almost forgot to log my 3 mile shakeout (slow recovery pace) run from this morning. I got a tweak in my lower back that I hope to be gone before tommorow's race.
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Rest day + Taper week + the rest of the family napping = weighing 4 of my pairs of shoes and now trying to decide which of the 2 lightest pairs to wear for my HM in 10 days the lighter pair with less cushioning and 68.5 miles on them, or the heavier (by 1.6oz for the pair) pair that has 6 miles on them and is more cushiony.1
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Rest day + Taper week + the rest of the family napping = weighing 4 of my pairs of shoes and now trying to decide which of the 2 lightest pairs to wear for my HM in 10 days the lighter pair with less cushioning and 68.5 miles on them, or the heavier (by 1.6oz for the pair) pair that has 6 miles on them and is more cushiony.
Wait... you are weighing your shoes? Finn... you are a MF-ing hoot... lol... Here's what I think... get up the morning of the race, throw on smelly unwashed running clothes, grab your oldest, dirtiest beat-up pair of running shoes with the most miles on them, no water bottles, no gels, no snacks, no coffee, nothing and just go pound the shlt out of that 13 miles. You would be surprised how well that works.
You need more zen.8 -
Getting closer on that goal.
Fun fact. People wave more at you if you are shirtless. Who would have guessed
June 5 - 6.0 km - 143/6:27
June 6 - rest
June 7 - 6.0 km - 143/6:13
June 8 - 6.8 km - 148/6:11 (Hot)
June 9 - 5.8 km - 150/5:58
June 10 - rest
June 11 - 5.0 km - 184/4:26
June 12 - 6.0 km - 149/6:05
June 13 - rest
June 14 - 7.6 km - 149/6:08
June 15 - 6.0 km - 150/6:03
June 16 - 6.0 km - 150/6:12
June 17 - 7.0 km - 152/6:21 (Hell)
June 18 - 5.8 km - 150/Slow, I didn't care
June 19 - 11.0km - 155/6:06 (Easy hell)
June 20 - rest
June 21 - 7.0 km - 178/4.37 (tempo)
June 22 - 6.0 km - 155/6:06
June 23 - 6.6 km - 152/6:06
June 24 - 7.0 km - 155/5:54
03/04: Bucharest 10k and Family run 48:28
16/04: Color Run Bucharest
17/04: Forest Run 5k 22:05
04/06: Happy Run 5k 21:573 -
DATE...............MILES...........TOTAL
6/1...................REST.................0.00
6/2.....................7.00.................7.00
6/3.....................5.00...............12.00
6/4...................10.00...............22.00
6/5.....................6.25...............28.25
6/6...................REST...............28.25
6/7.....................3.00...............31.25
6/8...................REST...............31.25
6/9.....................3.00...............34.25
6/10.................REST...............34.25
6/11...................4.25.............. 38.50
6/12.................REST...............38.50
6/13.................REST...............38.50
6/14.................REST...............38.50
6/15...................6.00...............44.50
6/16...................5.00...............49.50
6/17...................7.00...............56.50
6/18.................REST...............56.50
6/19.................REST...............56.50
6/20.................REST...............56.50
6/21...................5.00...............61.50
6/22...................5.00...............66.50
6/23.................REST...............66.50
6/24...................4.00...............70.50
2016 Races
5/14: Glacier Ridge Ultra -- 50k (Portersville, PA)
7/9: Buckeye Trail 50k -- 50k (Brecksville, OH)
9/10: 1st Annual Possum Glory Endurance Race -- 50k (Northern Cambria, PA)
10/1: Cloudsplitter 100 -- 100 Miles (Pine Mountain, KY)
10/15: Buffalo Creek Half Marathon (Sarver, PA)
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@MNLittleFinn yeah, don't go by weighing your shoes.
You are going to be pounding your feet on the ground over and over again for your HM. That pounding will make your lower body feel more weaker as your HM wears on. The ones with cushion exist for a reason, to protect your feet and body. That small difference in weight doesn't compare with the protection your cushion shoes provide.
Go with the shoes you think will offer you the most comfort.
Believe me, you are not at the level where you should be wearing the lightest "racing flats". Just go out and enjoy your first HM and have the goal to finish, so you can survive for training for your next race.
That's my compromise to @PoppetsMaster zen running. ;-)7 -
AdrianChr92 wrote: »Getting closer on that goal.
Fun fact. People wave more at you if you are shirtless. Who would have guessed
Were these people waving, really women that resemble @Elise4270 ?
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My next race is two hours from my house. Seems silly to drive two hours the night before and waste money on a hotel, so I will have to get up at 3:30 a.m. and be out the door by 4:00 to get my registration packet at 6:00 and then catch a little nap before the 7:00 start... or... any of you in the Cleveland area let me sleep on your couch?1
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AdrianChr92 wrote: »Getting closer on that goal.
Fun fact. People wave more at you if you are shirtless. Who would have guessed
Were these people waving, really women that resemble @Elise4270 ?
lol
*Giggle* um, ya! I saw what they were waving at.
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@Stoshew71 I basicallydecided to go with the more comfortable pair....they are a better color to go with the rest of my outfit for the day...LOL.....they are giving awards for patriotic outfits, so my Captain America shirt, Brooks Sherpa Shorts, and now, for sure, blue Brooks Glycerin 14 shoes are the way I'm going.
weighing the shoes had everything to do with boredom and nothing to do with much else....I was actually just curious what my shoes weighed, since most weights are given for a size much bigger than my size 7 feet.....1 -
PoppetsMaster wrote: »My next race is two hours from my house. Seems silly to drive two hours the night before and waste money on a hotel, so I will have to get up at 3:30 a.m. and be out the door by 4:00 to get my registration packet at 6:00 and then catch a little nap before the 7:00 start... or... any of you in the Cleveland area let me sleep on your couch?
Or put your racing clothes on, drive up there the night before, find the closest rest/truck stop on the highway. Pull-over, pop the seat back and snooze. I'm surprised the zen in you hasn't figured out that one yet. LOL1 -
AdrianChr92 wrote: »Getting closer on that goal.
Fun fact. People wave more at you if you are shirtless. Who would have guessed
Were these people waving, really women that resemble @Elise4270 ?
lol
*Giggle* um, ya! I saw what they were waving at.
Wait, did you edit out something about you and a wet white t-shirt?1 -
Well... I DID think about that, but then my super-zen me perked up and said, "I bet there are some really cool bars with live music in Cleveland and that is way better than a rest stop". I really suck at not listening to super-zen me, so I think we are staying home and getting up early.Or put your racing clothes on, drive up there the night before, find the closest rest/truck stop on the highway. Pull-over, pop the seat back and snooze. I'm surprised the zen in you hasn't figured out that one yet. LOL
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@kristinegift The only time I have the twitchy muscle is when they are tired. It could be an imbalance or just plain ol' tired. I'd just try some basics, massage, fluids and rest. It sounds like it could be that peroneal longus muscle.
Have you changed shoes? Need new shoes? Changed terrain?
Edit- After rereading your symptoms, the stop and it goes away with rest but flares with running, sounds like it could be threatening tendonitis.
It doesn't hurt like my previous and numbered bouts of tendinitis have been, but I'll be on watch for it! I think you probably hit the nail on the head with "plain ol' tired." I jumped from ~26 miles a week during my slump to 45 to 56, and this week I'm feeling much better (on track for north of 50 miles again) now that my legs are remembering how to take a beating. I bet the shin muscley tendon thingie is just a bit overworked. But will that keep me off my feet? Heck no! Because I'm stubborn as all get out!Got a question for our elites (@Stoshew71, @MobyCarp, @Ohhim, etc. - don't be mad if I didn't list you in that group: it's a lot of folks with lots of experience/knowledge):
How do you combine long runs with races (especially 5Ks)? We're getting ready to head into race season, and around here, most of the races I do are 5K (but this would also apply to 10Ks) on Saturday, and that's the day I usually do my long run (aiming at 9-10 miles, maybe more this fall as the weather cools a little).
If I'm gonna run a 5K/10K race, what does that mean for getting in mileage/time on a long run? I really can't move the long run to a different day because of my life schedule, and I'd like to maintain my 35-40 (or more?) miles/week.
Wasn't tagged, but I run a buttload of miles too! Typically what I would do is run the 5k and then tack on slow, easy miles after (and then do a long run on Sunday, as is my norm). However in your situation, if the only weekend day you run is on Saturday, then I'd warm up a bit for the 5k (1-2 miles), run the race (3.1) and then do an extended cool-down to round out the run (5-6 miles).
I've got my own conundrum coming up with 5ks/a Fourth of July race... I want to do one on the day since it's sort of tradition, but since 7/4 falls on a Monday this year and Monday is usually my recovery run after long weekend miles... I've gotta move some things around! We'll see how that goes!1 -
PoppetsMaster wrote: »
Well... I DID think about that, but then my super-zen me perked up and said, "I bet there are some really cool bars with live music in Cleveland and that is way better than a rest stop". I really suck at not listening to super-zen me, so I think we are staying home and getting up early.Or put your racing clothes on, drive up there the night before, find the closest rest/truck stop on the highway. Pull-over, pop the seat back and snooze. I'm surprised the zen in you hasn't figured out that one yet. LOL
I also thought of the bar scene at your destination. Funny how we think alike (in some areas). I can understand you staying home to avoid super-zen.1 -
7 miles through the woods with friends today as two of us were in recovery from speedwork yesterday.
6/1 - 4 miles
6/2 - 8 miles
6/3 - 13.5 miles
6/5 - 13.5 miles
6/6 - 9 miles
6/7 - 10 miles
6/9 - 12 miles
6/10 - 9 miles
6/11 - 8 miles
6/12 - 12 miles
6/13 - 4 miles
6/14 - 1 mile
6/15 - 4 miles
6/17 - 5.5 miles
6/19 - 6 miles
6/20 - 5 miles
6/21 - 13 miles
6/22 - 9 miles
6/23 - 9 miles
6/24 - 7 miles
Total: 162.5 miles
Goal: 200 miles
Remaining: 37.5 miles
2016 Race Schedule:
Disney Marathon - Jan 6 - 3:29:09
Gasparilla 15K - Feb 20 - 1:01:59
Ironman 70.3 Florida - Apr 10 - 5:07:51
Pittsburgh Marathon - May 1 - 3:08:25
Ironman 70.3 Augusta - Sep 25
Chicago Marathon - Oct 9
Ironman Florida - Nov 5
@Elise4270 - given my ironman exercise schedule (about 3 hours/day), just cutting back on intake and focusing on proteins is my usual approach to weightloss. 1 lb/week just requires about 700 calories/day of deficit, and with about 1500 calories of exercise (and actively logging of food here), it isn't too tricky.
@9voice9 - I usually only race 1 5k and 1 10k/year, but try to do them along with a long run the next day (as the ones I do are usually on Saturdays). Once I get to 15k and halfs, I setup as stepback weeks.
@Orphia - I think you are ready for one, as your training distances to date are pretty consistent with HM training plans. If the weather looks good for Saturday, definitely give a race a shot!1 -
kristinegift wrote: »I've got my own conundrum coming up with 5ks/a Fourth of July race... I want to do one on the day since it's sort of tradition, but since 7/4 falls on a Monday this year and Monday is usually my recovery run after long weekend miles... I've gotta move some things around! We'll see how that goes!
Aw, c'mon! You're a marathon runner. A 5K is just a tempo workout to you. Maybe take the Sunday long run a little easier than usual, and you'll be fine.1 -
AdrianChr92 wrote: »Getting closer on that goal.
Fun fact. People wave more at you if you are shirtless. Who would have guessed
Were these people waving, really women that resemble @Elise4270 ?
lol
*Giggle* um, ya! I saw what they were waving at.
Wait, did you edit out something about you and a wet white t-shirt?
Ya
I thought it might elicit a bad image. I did get a lot of attention the day I ran in a wet white shirt. I thought I was just cool, but realize it may have been the shirt. 0 -
For a 5K race, you get in a 2 or 3 mile warm-up, run your race, then get your extra miles in quickly after the race. 10K you probably don't need as many miles as a warmup.
The other thing you can try to do is time your cutback weeks to coincide with races.
Sounds good. Follow-up question - I'm running 6 days/week, aiming at 35-40 miles/week. Teach me about cutback weeks. When, how much less, strategy, etc.... Please. 1
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