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Parents- HPV vaccine for girls......yes or no?
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My son received the vaccine in school (gr 9) and my daughter will, as well.2
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Hpv can be found in the mouth......by abstinence do you mean ALL sexually contact or just full intercourse.....a virgin could have had oral and picked up hpv.....technically still a virgin but can infect a partner.2
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Yes. 1/4 women will get HPV in their lifetimes. HPV is the leading cause of cervical cancer. The "ill effects" of Gardasil are largely made up by people who think they understand the VAR (vaccine adverse reaction) database, but don't (case and point, at least 4 of the women who died in the VAR were car crash victims... those deaths are pretty obviously unrelated to the vaccine). And there is now proof that the vaccine is working.
I am a 32 year old woman. At 26 a friend of mine was diagnosed with a form of cervical cancer that subsequently metastasized. She had to have her uterus, cervix, and portions of her intestines removed. She has suffered countless rounds of chemo (the cancer won't stay gone), will never have children, and will wear a colostomy bag for the rest of her life.
I assure you, what happened to my friend is far worse than what the anti-vaxxers are telling you MIGHT happen.
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Scary stuff. I met my wife when we were both 14 & we have only been with each-other & no one else... I would hate to have to date again...7
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I got it and have had no issues at all.0
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
HPV can be spread non-sexually, and my parents telling me to not have sex before I was married definitely didn't prevent me from having sex. So yes, if you're a parent, you have a responsibility to do more than teach your child abstinence to protect their health. If you're a young woman making this decision for yourself, be smart and protect yourself against the worst, even if you're choosing abstinence.10 -
I read 2 pages of comments, not all, so forgive me if this is redundant.
Gardasil is now 9 strains of HPV which are the most likely to cause cervical cancer, genital warts, and anal cancers. Yes - most HPV strains are cleared out by healthy young adults. But some aren't. As someone whose mother and both aunts had cervical cancers, I was disappointed to be too old to receive it.
You bet your *kitten* my daughters that are old enough have had/started the series, my younger two will receive it, AND my step son has completed the series.
I work at a community health clinic that gives lots of gardasil in peds. Whenever I encounter a young man who is hesitant to get an extra shot, I just ask him if he wants warts on his penis. Done deal.8 -
Yes, it's hard to see 30 years old sick and one girl never being able to have kids she had hoped for.0
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
Look at the data surrounding abstinence only education. Yes. It is too much. It results in kids that still have sex, and are uneducated about it. Education revolves around prevention, and this immunization IS prevention. The current school of thought on this is to give it prior to commencement of sexual activity - which does mean that as parents we have to make that decision for our children - and I would rather err on the side of "probably gonna have more than one partner, probably gonna have unprotected sex, better do it" than bury my head in the sand.5 -
Yes, my daughter got it. I want to reduce my daughters risk of everything that I can. If it can be vaccinated against and is offered in our county we get it. I dont want to lose her from anything much less something I could have prevented. My SIL didn't get my nieces vaccinated bc she was worried about infertility. I told my daughter if it caused that, we will buy her donor eggs and hire a surrogate.1
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The vaccine has been out long enough for us to start evaluating results. The reduction in cervical abnormalities is significant.
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-hpv-vaccination-reduces-abnormal-pap-tests-2016-74 -
Nothing wrong with suggesting abstinence but.... Not everyone will be abstinent AND marry a virgin. I mean really... What are the odds of that?wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
Yeah, cause spouses never cheat......9 -
Yes for daughters and sons.0
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wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
I was raped last year, I'm so glad my rapists were abstinent! Umm yeah that's a very ignorant opinion. HPV can be spread non sexually by the way. I'm curious why you say having a lot of partners is "bad period"? That is your opinion it sounds like, a judgment you pass on others on your beliefs which are just that: something you believe that doesn't have a basis in facts. It is also your opinion that having sexual partners makes someone "sleazy." When it comes to diseases you can have sex with a lot of people and never get anything. You can also wait until marriage and sleep with one person and end up with something. What's a "fairy tale" for you isn't a fairy tale for everyone. Personally, my fairy tale would be for people to get strong sexual education and to stay out of other people's panties and judging them for a decision that has nothing to do with them
and also to not to let their personal beliefs impact the health of the public by pushing against sexual education, availability of health services, etc, that theoretically they wouldn't need to use anyways based off the stuff they spout. 28 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
Yeah, cause spouses never cheat......
They do or they don't. People enjoy sex or they don't. I think it's silly taking moralistic positions on things that are so common as just satisfying sex when the drive is what it is. I'm not here to check behind my kids every day when they get to a certain age. I'd rather know they are safer than they would be without the vaccine4 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
Yeah, cause spouses never cheat......
They do or they don't. People enjoy sex or they don't. I think it's silly taking moralistic positions on things that are so common as just satisfying sex when the drive is what it is. I'm not here to check behind my kids every day when they get to a certain age. I'd rather know they are safer than they would be without the vaccine
Exactly, which is why I quoted who I quoted before I made my sarcastic response. I don't think suggesting abstinence in place of the vaccine is a good idea such as the person I quoted did.3 -
stephanieluvspb wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »stephanieluvspb wrote: »wisdomfromyou wrote: »I don't mean to start anything...(I did not read the thread)...but is it too much to suggest abstinence? Worked for many - without the vaccines.
Having lots of partners is bad period. Finding a steady, non-sleazy/non-cheating partner when ready for something serious and sticking with him - that sounds like a nice option without complications. No?
Or has this become the domain of fairy-tales in our world? ...
Yeah, cause spouses never cheat......
They do or they don't. People enjoy sex or they don't. I think it's silly taking moralistic positions on things that are so common as just satisfying sex when the drive is what it is. I'm not here to check behind my kids every day when they get to a certain age. I'd rather know they are safer than they would be without the vaccine
Exactly, which is why I quoted who I quoted before I made my sarcastic response. I don't think suggesting abstinence in place of the vaccine is a good idea such as the person I quoted did.
To avoid a sarcasm inception, I got that and was agreeing0 -
I was too old to receive the HPV vaccine when it was introduced for girls in the UK. I would've happily had it. I view it no differently to vaccines for meningitis, hepatitis, TB and all the other immunisations the NHS provides. It's just another layer of protection alongside regular smear tests and sexual health screenings.3
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