which one is better choice
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Knightride48 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »
What nutritionists are you referring to?
And have "they" described what damage is caused by having something that is a little high in fat in one meal? Breading on chicken is not fatty, its carby, and beef, depending on leanness is not fatty either. But they are higher in calories especially when you add the breading, bun.. etc..
If you want to avoid some fat in fried chicken, don;t fry it..Dry fry it, or just use cooking spray. .
You forgot about saturated fat.
What about it?
The chicken thigh, with skin, has about 5.6 g. Without, 2.7 g.
The burger, if you choose 93% lean, has about 3.25 g.
I think you can survive either.
Even if you go over the AHA's recommended 5-6% of total calories from sat fat on a particular day, I think you will be okay.
I so don't understand thinking that eating one meal that might be high in sat fat will be terrible AND posing a choice between a restaurant cheeseburger and restaurant fried chicken. If you want to worry about what nutritionists would think about every single meal, why not choose between (1) a skinless, boneless chicken breast with broccoli and some brown rice; (2) salmon, on a bed of kale and quinoa; or (3) a vegetarian chili made from black beans and sweet potato with a mix of vegetables, including tomatoes, peppers, and summer squash.
I mean, while I could enjoy all three of those options (well, if you prepared the chicken in some decent way), I can see occasionally preferring the fried chicken or the burger. But if so, the consideration (other than calories and what else you are eating that day) really ought to be "what am I in the mood for?".1 -
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Next time grill the chicken, use lean hamburger and eat both muhauhuahua.0
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Get turducken.2
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Knightride48 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.
http://m.cancer.org/cancer/news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer
Theirs moremore to read.
What Dianne said is from that study. it shows if you eat bacon every day your risk of colorectal cancer goes from 5% to 6% so not significant at all. The media blew it out of proportion.3 -
Knightride48 wrote: »What the heck, I can't sleep anyway...
OP, where are these hypothetical choices being made? For my health .Some places the fried chicken will be higher cals & fat, some places the burger will be.
How many calories have you eaten so far today? 405
How is your calorie balance for the week 75/25
When was the last time you ate red meat? Yesterday
How many grams of saturated fat have you eaten today? 0g
How close are you to your sugar limit today? 90% close low sugar for now
Is there an option to leave the cheese off the burger? Yes but then it would be a hamburger
Have you exercised or do you plan to exercise today? No will walk in recreation
Do you have an increased genetic risk of heart disease? I don knoe
Are you prediabetic or diabetic? Neither
Are you doing low carb? No ma'am
Whether you are or not, how many grams of carbs have you had today? 75g
Do you have a taste preference for chicken or beef? Depending on the way to serve
How hungry are you? 1.2/10
Do you have another meal planned for the day, or is this your last meal? Yes
Is the chicken regular breaded, or extra crispy? Regular Is it lightly breaded or are there lots of clumps of breading? Regular breading
Can you tell which one is greasier when it is served? The chicken
How about the salt factor - which is higher in sodium? Cheeborger Do you have high blood pressure? No
Do you have celiac? No
Does the burger bun have sesame or poppy seeds? Sesame
Do you have any intestinal issues that seeds might bother? No
Does either come with a side dish? No Do they come with the same side dish? N/a
Do they both cost the same? No
Are either of these foods a trigger food for you, for binging or some other disordered eating pattern? That another whole topic but in short answer maybe
How often are these two your only option? 1 per month In other words, is this an every day thing or a one time only proposition? May once in 1.5 months
Okay, well I have to give you props for filling this out . The cheeseburger will have a more balanced macro distribution. I personally don't find one macro "mentally" feels like a meal, so with no side dishes I would be more satisfied by the burger. However, some people watch their red meat consumption, so if you just had some yesterday the chicken might be a better choice. My point was that it's really impossible to answer the "either, or" type questions well, without taking into consideration the many variables that make up a person's diet. No one food is healthy or unhealthy, because they don't happen in a vacuum.
And the really short answer comes from your last response... If this is a once in a blue moon occurrence, it seriously 100% does not matter which you choose - it will not affect your overall health in the long run. :drinker:5 -
Knightride48 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.
http://m.cancer.org/cancer/news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer
Theirs moremore to read.
Neither ground beef or a chicken thigh of the sort you fry is normally considered processed meat. Are you getting bacon on the burger?0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.
http://m.cancer.org/cancer/news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer
Theirs moremore to read.
Neither ground beef or a chicken thigh of the sort you fry is normally considered processed meat. Are you getting bacon on the burger?
And are you eating bacon every single day?0 -
singingflutelady wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.
http://m.cancer.org/cancer/news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer
Theirs moremore to read.
Neither ground beef or a chicken thigh of the sort you fry is normally considered processed meat. Are you getting bacon on the burger?
And are you eating bacon every single day?
Well, that's part of the analysis to see if bacon on the burger can fit. I was just trying to figure out why he was talking about processed meat at all.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Knightride48 wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »Wynterbourne wrote: »You are never gonna get an answer that you agree with from us. You are using different definitions than we do for many things and are refusing to see the whole picture. Only you are going to be able to answer your own question.
^This. All food carries the risk of killing us eventually, even fruits & veggies. Eventually you have to decide which risks you choose to prioritize and which you feel you can safely ignore.
The increase in cancer risks associated with processed meats take your risk level from something like 5% without processed meats to 6% with them in your diet. That's a risk I'm personally willing to ignore. But I can't make that decision for others.
http://m.cancer.org/cancer/news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer
Theirs moremore to read.
Neither ground beef or a chicken thigh of the sort you fry is normally considered processed meat. Are you getting bacon on the burger?
And are you eating bacon every single day?
Well, that's part of the analysis to see if bacon on the burger can fit. I was just trying to figure out why he was talking about processed meat at all.1 -
Now I want a bacon burger. Sigh. (My dinner is already planned, no chance.)0
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Knightride48 wrote: »
I'm curious, if you consider chicken and ground beef "processed meat" what type of meat do you considered not processed?1 -
There's only one way to find out
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Knightride48 wrote: »None of this makes sense, you have nothing to compare, they are both hypotheticals from places you that don't exist. So why don't you just find a place that has nutritional value for what you are looking for and compare those, because that is the closest you are going to get. You can't ask people to determine between to hypothetical foods for your health needs that you won’t tell people what they are.
Just did, I'm sorry the words don't make sense to you.
Have you gone back and read your words? They don't really work well together.
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The trolling is very strong in this one.
1. The risk is 6% if you eat processed meat EVERY DAY OF YOUR LIFE
2. I don't know where you got any of those numbers from but that's not how it works.
3. Um obviously.2 -
singingflutelady wrote: »The trolling is very strong in this one.
I saw a new post last night via a different name than OP, but pretty much identical style, phrasing, grammar etc. I think there may have been a case of Mitosis so the Trolling can be doubled.
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Put that chicken on the burger mmmmmmmm yum0
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