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tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
When I was 265 pounds and people said things about the way I ate all I wanted to do was scream at them. Pointing out that my eating habits were unhealthy wasn't going to change them. What helped me change was when I saw others losing weight and felt comfortable not being judged by them to ask questions.
I've motivated more people by telling them they can keep eating fried chicken or pizza and helped them reach their weight loss/fitness/health goals than I have ever done by judging what they ate.8 -
david_lopez_101 wrote: »My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day. I wonder how they are feeling, are they getting heavier? If I would do that just one day I would feel it immediately. I'm patiently waiting for my health conscience eating, drinking descions to show up. My most obvious indication is my clothing. When my clothing stops feeling like its soffucating I know I'm doing good.
But I can't eat what's out there. It's not good for me and most of the general public. I'd rather cook what I want or ask for a lighter version.
I always wonder this. I would love to be able to be one of the people who can even shamelessly eat a cheat meal. I felt guilty for having a piece of cake on my birthday and insisted that I "felt it" right away. I NEVER eat fast food anymore because I feel instantly greasy and overloaded with unneccessary crap.3 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
So we should rip fried chicken out of strangers' hands? I am confused by this post.
Oh, I figured we were supposed to burn all the KFC's to the ground.2 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »david_lopez_101 wrote: »My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day. I wonder how they are feeling, are they getting heavier? If I would do that just one day I would feel it immediately. I'm patiently waiting for my health conscience eating, drinking descions to show up. My most obvious indication is my clothing. When my clothing stops feeling like its soffucating I know I'm doing good.
But I can't eat what's out there. It's not good for me and most of the general public. I'd rather cook what I want or ask for a lighter version.
I always wonder this. I would love to be able to be one of the people who can even shamelessly eat a cheat meal. I felt guilty for having a piece of cake on my birthday and insisted that I "felt it" right away. I NEVER eat fast food anymore because I feel instantly greasy and overloaded with unneccessary crap.
Sounds sad.5 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
So we should rip fried chicken out of strangers' hands? I am confused by this post.
Only if I get to eat it.3 -
peaceout_aly wrote: »david_lopez_101 wrote: »My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day. I wonder how they are feeling, are they getting heavier? If I would do that just one day I would feel it immediately. I'm patiently waiting for my health conscience eating, drinking descions to show up. My most obvious indication is my clothing. When my clothing stops feeling like its soffucating I know I'm doing good.
But I can't eat what's out there. It's not good for me and most of the general public. I'd rather cook what I want or ask for a lighter version.
I always wonder this. I would love to be able to be one of the people who can even shamelessly eat a cheat meal. I felt guilty for having a piece of cake on my birthday and insisted that I "felt it" right away. I NEVER eat fast food anymore because I feel instantly greasy and overloaded with unneccessary crap.
Maybe it's because you call it a cheat. The word cheating has a negative meaning. I don't cheat, I fit things I want and like in my calories. Doesn't matter if it's cake or fast food. Sometimes I time things in a way to not negatively impact workouts (like not having beer the night before an early morning run).5 -
WinoGelato wrote: »tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
Wait, I'm confused. The ones saying don't judge others are the ones who are close minded and negative?
Come on, it's perfectly straight-forward. Judging others is positive and open-minded behavior unless you are judging them for judging others. That's the one behavior we must never have an opinion on.10 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »peaceout_aly wrote: »david_lopez_101 wrote: »My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day. I wonder how they are feeling, are they getting heavier? If I would do that just one day I would feel it immediately. I'm patiently waiting for my health conscience eating, drinking descions to show up. My most obvious indication is my clothing. When my clothing stops feeling like its soffucating I know I'm doing good.
But I can't eat what's out there. It's not good for me and most of the general public. I'd rather cook what I want or ask for a lighter version.
I always wonder this. I would love to be able to be one of the people who can even shamelessly eat a cheat meal. I felt guilty for having a piece of cake on my birthday and insisted that I "felt it" right away. I NEVER eat fast food anymore because I feel instantly greasy and overloaded with unneccessary crap.
Sounds sad.
Sometimes I wish 'junk' food made me feel ill... but then I think of pizza and doughnuts and I tell myself not to be so ridiculous!
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peaceout_aly wrote: »david_lopez_101 wrote: »My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day. I wonder how they are feeling, are they getting heavier? If I would do that just one day I would feel it immediately. I'm patiently waiting for my health conscience eating, drinking descions to show up. My most obvious indication is my clothing. When my clothing stops feeling like its soffucating I know I'm doing good.
But I can't eat what's out there. It's not good for me and most of the general public. I'd rather cook what I want or ask for a lighter version.
I always wonder this. I would love to be able to be one of the people who can even shamelessly eat a cheat meal. I felt guilty for having a piece of cake on my birthday and insisted that I "felt it" right away. I NEVER eat fast food anymore because I feel instantly greasy and overloaded with unneccessary crap.
I think you have brainwashed yourself to believe all fast food and treats are bad.
Not all fast food is greasy
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"My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day"
What are you doing or moreover eating and drinking as you watch them..???1 -
"My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day"
What are you doing or moreover eating and drinking as you watch them..???
popcorn4 -
tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
Unless you know what else that person has eaten that day/week or how that fried, fatty food fits into their overall diet, you have no idea if it is "harmful" to them or not.6 -
tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
When I was 265 pounds and people said things about the way I ate all I wanted to do was scream at them. Pointing out that my eating habits were unhealthy wasn't going to change them. What helped me change was when I saw others losing weight and felt comfortable not being judged by them to ask questions.
I've motivated more people by telling them they can keep eating fried chicken or pizza and helped them reach their weight loss/fitness/health goals than I have ever done by judging what they ate.
I could relate in a way. My food choices being judged pokes at my rebellious "screw you" childish side. I remember an acquaintance making a backhanded comment about my order at a restaurant so I ordered a cheesecake after my meal and childishly scrutinized her dish "since you're so self conscious about your figure are you sure you want to have that cheese?". Not my proudest moment. I admit I enjoyed watching her chew on lettuce trying to avoid further comments from me a little too much, and I still got to enjoy my alfredo and cheesecake.5 -
"My colleagues will eat fried chicken followed by blue bell ice cream, sit down all day and feast on a poboy with fried shrimp and fries. I watch them wash it down with fruit drink or a big coke, followed by more drink throughout the day"
What are you doing or moreover eating and drinking as you watch them..???
Eating moral superiority and washing it down with disdain from atop my high horse of course...9 -
tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
Nah, all it will do will cause a punch to the face for being so freakin' annoying.
(Er....I meant to the judger. Not the judgee.)2 -
Therealobi1 wrote: »Chef_Barbell wrote: »tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
So we should rip fried chicken out of strangers' hands? I am confused by this post.
rip it and put it right in the bottom of the bin
One of the owners at my former workplace was affectionately known as "The Food Nazi". If someone brought in donuts or some other "unhealthy" treat to share, and this owner happened to be visiting the office that day, she would throw all the donuts in the bin. To my mind, that was unspeakably rude. If she really thought it was that bad, what's wrong with giving the box back to the person who bought them and asking them to consider not bringing such treats into the office in future, instead of basically throwing away their money? If it's not company money purchasing them, what does it have to do with her what the staff choose to eat? Promoting a healthy environment is one thing, but dictating what others can and can't eat is something else.
As for the subject of this thread, I don't think attempting to police other people's food choices in general is a good idea. One can try to lead by example, and be willing to share insights and information that they've learned, but outright telling others that what they're eating is bad for them is less likely to be successful. Like others have mentioned, when I was heavier it wouldn't have helped or motivated me to have others commenting on my choices (even the ones I knew were poor). And since I was one of those who believed I didn't overeat, it took me being persuaded to join MFP and seeing for myself how many calories were in my favourites to change my mind.
I've come to believe that labelling foods as "good" or "bad" is unhelpful. Some people seem to feel better if they don't eat what they call junk, although sometimes I question how much of that is genuine physiological reaction and how much is psychosomatic based on their guilt or other emotions for eating something "bad for you". I don't call anything junk food any more, I just eat what I want to eat but less of it. I don't have fast food often because of the high calories, not because I feel it's bad for me. And if other people want to eat it every day then that's up to them... I don't know them or their life, and they may eat very little the rest of the day or work out religiously so that they can have their high-calorie meals. It's none of my business, unless someone asks me to help them figure out why they're not losing weight.
I don't feel that peering into other people's shopping carts and making disapproving noises is going to help anyone, least of all me.4 -
i wonder why you care so much about other peoples lives... worry bout yo self.3
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tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
Yes, shaming people for their food choices is a great idea. The next time I see someone in Publix with Doritos and ice cream in their shopping cart I'm going to boo and hiss and tell them the terrible things they're doing to their bodies with that poison.
Oh wait. I always have Doritos and ice cream in my shopping cart. Trying to feel guilty.....
Nah. I've lost thirty pounds and am greatly improving my fitness as I go along, Doritos and ice cream and all. I'm good. Judge away.
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »tylerrl1664 wrote: »Liberal phrases like "you do you" and sentences to never judge in any situation will only lead one comfortably into unhealthy behavior. Judging eating fried, fatty foods is bad will help create better habits. Not being content letting someone doing whatever they wish will bring them understanding what they are doing is harmful. I applaud this post, yet detest the people too close-minded to bring any positivity to others' lives.
So we should rip fried chicken out of strangers' hands? I am confused by this post.
Oh, I figured we were supposed to burn all the KFC's to the ground.
*sigh*
I'll get my pitch fork.
The Colonel must be drawn and quartered.3 -
I don't really worry about what other people are eating, but that is just me. I have enough to worry about with my own diet...2
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