Candida Infection

SCoil123
SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
edited September 2016 in Health and Weight Loss
So I thought I was plateaued but as I often read here if you get stuck there is usually a cause. I went to my doctor for some issues I was having and it turned out I have a candida problem. One of the things this can cause is bloating and slowed weight loss.

Im on a very restrictive diet for the next 30 days and may need anti fungal medication if that doesnt help.

My purpose in this post was that I was seeing a lot of plateau posts lately. If you really are logging and tracking accurately but still stuck I encourage you to see your doctor. There can be medical causes that will make you sick if not addressed.
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  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    Noel_57 wrote: »
    People on long term antibiotics or with suppressed immune systems are susceptible to this condition. But unless candidiasis makes you eat more, how does it affect weight? Please explain?

    Mostly just with the bloating and trouble with proper digestion.

    I have hashimotos so I guess candida problems are supposedly common for people like me but this is my first experience with it.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited September 2016
    My mom suffered with Candida for years. Anti fungal medication did not help her - the restrictive diet did. She did it longer than a month, though. Good luck!

    If I feel the early signs of a yeast infection I take a peeled, lightly squished clove of garlic internally. (More directions in the first link.)

    Garlic is a natural anti-fungal. Most of the time this works but if it doesn't then I get an OTC anti-fungal like Monistat.

    https://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/garlic.asp
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC538912/
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-a-clove-of-garlic-can-stop-a-vaginal-yeast-infection/
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    My mom suffered with Candida for years. Anti fungal medication did not help her - the restrictive diet did. She did it longer than a month, though. Good luck!

    If I feel the early signs of a yeast infection I take a peeled, lightly squished clove of garlic internally. (More directions in the first link.)

    Garlic is a natural anti-fungal. Most of the time this works but if it doesn't then I get an OTC anti-fungal like Monistat.

    https://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/garlic.asp
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC538912/
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-a-clove-of-garlic-can-stop-a-vaginal-yeast-infection/

    The infection is in my digestive track so I dont think Monistat will help this time but Im stoked to hear the diet helped your mom. Im really looking forward to getting over this.
  • bethanytilling
    bethanytilling Posts: 3 Member
    How are you feeling ? Apparently I've had it for a while with a long list of symptoms:( I've been doing the diet now for 3 weeks. Not to much of a difference yet. After suffering for so long I went to a naturopath o also taking lots of supplements
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    I was struggling on the diet and ended up going on antifungal pills. I'll be on them for 30 days. The first few days I didn't notice anything other than I was really bloated and craving sweets. Now its starting to work and I feel a little run down but I was warned this may happen and last 1-2 weeks, if longer than my doctor wants me to come in. I'm pushing through my work outs and optimistic that I will be over this soon.

    How are you feeling? Is the diet working for you?
  • RLW0930
    RLW0930 Posts: 32 Member
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!
  • courtneyfabulous
    courtneyfabulous Posts: 1,863 Member
    What does the diet consist of?
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    A friend of mine was similarly diagnosed and put on what was basically a low carb diet. I will say that she has had great success.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    What does the diet consist of?

    The one my doctor wanted me to try eliminated starches and sugars temporarily as they feed the yeast. It didn't do much for me though and was hard to stick to. I love my potatoes lol
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    edited October 2016
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.

    I was advised to start taking the probiotics the last day of my prescription. I have been taking them anyways though...guess I should stop. I didn't know why I'd been told to wait and thought I would get better faster.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,254 Member
    edited October 2016
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.

    I was advised to start taking the probiotics the last day of my prescription. I have been taking then anyways though...guess I should stop. I didn't know why I'd been told to wait and thought I would get better faster.

    Nope, they pretty much cancel each other out, causing the antifungal to not do its job.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.

    I was advised to start taking the probiotics the last day of my prescription. I have been taking then anyways though...guess I should stop. I didn't know why I'd been told to wait and thought I would get better faster.

    Nope, they pretty much cancel each other out, causing the antifungal to not do its job.

    I have a few weeks of the medication left. I hope its not too late. Thank you. I guess in hindsight I should ask more questions when the doctor tells me something and learn to be more patient.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    RLW0930 wrote: »
    Try taking a daily acidophilus probiotic supplement. It helps to get your "good" bacteria back in check. Helps me a lot!

    I'm on probiotics now with the antifungal medication.

    Please tell me they told you not to take the probiotic at the same time as the anti-fungal? Doing so will cause both not to work.

    I was advised to start taking the probiotics the last day of my prescription. I have been taking then anyways though...guess I should stop. I didn't know why I'd been told to wait and thought I would get better faster.

    Nope, they pretty much cancel each other out, causing the antifungal to not do its job.

    Are you guys sure? Is an antifungal similar to antibiotics? If so, they recommend to take a probiotic whilst taking antibiotics, but something like 12 hours apart, otherwise yes, the antibiotics will kill the good bacteria of the probiotics along with the bad.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    I'm emailing my doctor tonight to clarify the probiotics. She did tell me I needed to start taking them the same day I was finishing the medication and that I should plan on taking them going forward long term because they can help prevent these infections. But that is all she said about it.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    SCoil123 wrote: »
    I'm emailing my doctor tonight to clarify the probiotics. She did tell me I needed to start taking them the same day I was finishing the medication and that I should plan on taking them going forward long term because they can help prevent these infections. But that is all she said about it.

    I'm curious to see what your doctor says, as i said if antifungals are the same as antibiotics then it's a big waste of money and time to take probiotics at the exact same time as each other.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    @SCoil123 this is the first article that popped up when i googled.

    https://www.thecandidadiet.com/probiotics-and-antifungals.htm
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    Google is really not the best source of information. OP I would follow your doctor's orders and not what you find via Google.
  • nickatine
    nickatine Posts: 451 Member
    Oil of oregano
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    Google is really not the best source of information. OP I would follow your doctor's orders and not what you find via Google.

    It helped answer the question of the timing of antifungals and probiotics. ..

  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    I was just getting back on here to check this. I should rephrase what I said. Yes, you take them on the same day but they should be taken at least 8-12 hrs apart. Otherwise, the probiotic will kill the anti-fungal if they are in your gut at the same time. Ideally, one would take the AF in the morning and the probiotic at bedtime. The idea is that after some of the candida has been killed off you try to repopulate with good bacteria at night. The eventual goal is more good bacteria in the gut will also help kill off the candida as well as prevent it from coming back.

    I didn't go back to look who it was but whomever said they thought candida had been debunked - seriously? Good grief! No. Canfida is real and it causes real health issues for a lot of people.
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    Some interesting reading in the other Candida thread. You'll see that I'm not alone in my initial skepticism.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10453674/candida-overgrowth-in-gut/p1

    But I also checked for confirmation that medical doctors are recognizing intestinal Candida overgrowth and they definitely are:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3163673/

    I'd only heard of it in the sketchiest of conditions previously.
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member

    Are you guys sure? Is an antifungal similar to antibiotics? If so, they recommend to take a probiotic whilst taking antibiotics, but something like 12 hours apart, otherwise yes, the antibiotics will kill the good bacteria of the probiotics along with the bad.

    Anti-fungals and antibiotics are different. However, that rule still applies to both. A probiotic will kill off both AF's and ABX's. Good question!
  • Cahgetsfit
    Cahgetsfit Posts: 1,912 Member
    Oh I got that too. I took some stuff and ate no dairy/yeast/sugar for 7 days. Don't think it was long enough though I'm going to have to do it again for longer.

    Not antibiotic though, I took herbal mix. And yes - no need to tell me herbs are woo and they don't work, because I like herbs have taken them for year and years and they work for me if I do it properly. Just takes longer than 'normal' meds to work, which is the only downfall.

    Good luck with it though. It's a pain in the butt.
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
    edited October 2016
    Cahgetsfit wrote: »
    Oh I got that too. I took some stuff and ate no dairy/yeast/sugar for 7 days. Don't think it was long enough though I'm going to have to do it again for longer.

    Not antibiotic though, I took herbal mix. And yes - no need to tell me herbs are woo and they don't work, because I like herbs have taken them for year and years and they work for me if I do it properly. Just takes longer than 'normal' meds to work, which is the only downfall.

    Good luck with it though. It's a pain in the butt.

    Yay! Someone else that recognizes the value of herbs, etc. :smile: Yep. Natural stuff takes longer to work, but thankfully, is less toxic in the long run when used correctly. Herbal wise, were you using goldenseal, Oil of oregano, and garlic? I know you have to cycle goldenseal.

    You are so right on the candida diet. 7 days won't do it. Generally, people eat that way for a good three to six months to really knock candida. I would have a VERY difficult time eating that restricted for a week much less months, so I went a different route. Nonetheless, definitely have to be in for the long haul once candida affects your health significantly.