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why does sugar make us fat
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BiomedDent wrote: »lipogensis. Wikipedia is your friend.
Your title suggests you should know that it's called hepatic de novo lipogensis and that it's not going to be an issue unless you are in a caloric surplus. Fat is more likely to be stored as fat than carbs or protein since both are more energetically expensive to store as fat http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/6/737.full has some interesting information.6 -
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Wonder if she is talking about rat experiments with sucrose since rat livers metabolize far more fructose into liver fat than humans do.2 -
You stop eating excess calories
You eat calories to fuel your body minus x amount ...the body still needs the "minus x amount" and will take it from your body
It's not complicated, why try to make it complicated?
I was joking....I guess it was a really bad joke. I gotta work on my material0 -
stevencloser wrote: »
Last I checked, chocolate has gram for gram more calories than plain sugar, why was that again... oh right because half the calories come from fat.
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reduce your overall quantity of food consumed by 15 to 20%....
this is not rocket science
reduce your overall quantity of food consumed by 15 to 20%....
this is not rocket science
was my bad attempt at a joke. I guess I'm just not funny.0 -
I was joking....I guess it was a really bad joke haha
You should probably learn the art of the emoji
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For those of you who don't understand that carbs don't just convert to fat this might be of interest to you https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10365981. It is very clear that just substituting carb calories for fat calories in a 1:1 ratio does not increase fat gain.2
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Isn't that a movie? Ok...let's see how many emoji's I can create right now:
I'm out. I suck at emoji's1 -
I was joking....I guess it was a really bad joke. I gotta work on my material
Try a drum and cymbals, I find that works best.
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Last night I ate about 500 cals of chocolate covered almonds. I thought of you all as I ate them; so good!2
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andreakreymborg wrote: »If you really want to know sugar makes you fat because of the chemical reaction that happens when it is processed by our livers. This process stops the I'm full message getting to our brain. So our brain sends out the message "eat more food and don't do anything we are starving".
Search sweet poison in YouTube. It stooped me in my tracks.
i am eating sugar and cutting right now and I have lost about ten pounds. Care to explain how I am bypassing this magical process where sugar makes you gain fat in a calorie deficit?3 -
BiomedDent wrote: »lipogensis. Wikipedia is your friend.
please link us to the wikipedia post that claims you can gain fat in an energy deficit...0 -
sugar is such an amazing macro-nutrient it has the ability to change the basic laws of math and physics...wow, who knew?5
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imajollyroger wrote: »Sugar and carbs absolutely make you fat! What do you think beer belly is? There's no fat in beer. The body converts sugar/carbs into fat if it can't utilize it immediately for fuel. Doesn't matter if excess calories. I can run a calorie deficit and gain weight if I consume too many carbs without using them. Sugar and carbs also make you more hungry like eating Chinese food. Your insulin gets high which blocks your satiety signals to your brain. Your body won't burn fat until the glycogen is depleted. First it uses glycogen, then it uses fat as reserve.
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
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lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
You cannot gain in a deficit. That means you are gaining weight in an energy deficit. What you probably did was inaccurately track calories, and use basic calculations which did not support your actual EE.
It takes trial and error to find your actual EE and creating a deficit.
ETA: Do you have IR/PCOS?5 -
lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
That is quite impossible. You were not in a deficit.4 -
lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
If you were not losing weight, you simply were not in a deficit...5 -
lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
So you lose water and glycogen and thus you have lost weight. Great, but what are you really trying to lose? If you just want to lose weight try amputation it's a short cut to losing weight. In all seriousness, though you need to re-evaluate how you came up with this because you are doing something wrong if you are in a deficit and think you are gaining weight just because of macro mix.1 -
andreakreymborg wrote: »If you really want to know sugar makes you fat because of the chemical reaction that happens when it is processed by our livers.
No, the correct answer is that it doesn't make you fat.
Eating too much in general makes you fat.This process stops the I'm full message getting to our brain. So our brain sends out the message "eat more food and don't do anything we are starving".
I don't believe for a second that the reason I might want a second cookie is because I think I'm starving. I mean, it really doesn't pass any kind of "wait, is this actually my experience?" test. Nice excuse, though.5 -
What is a calorie? Energy What is fat? Stored energy. Any energy that we don't use is converted to fat for later use.0
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Last night I ate about 500 cals of chocolate covered almonds. I thought of you all as I ate them; so good!
I love chocolate covered almonds. Pret sells them in a 220 calorie serving sizes with a dark, milk, and white chocolate mix (I like the dark chocolate ones the best). Of the 220 calories, 80 are from sugar, and 126 are from fat. These are pretty high sugar example of chocolate-covered almonds, but they were an easy source and I do enjoy them occasionally.
Curious why you thought of us, but since chocolate covered almonds are delicious, I will assume that we are associated with positive, joyful experiences!2 -
lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
No, you can't gain weight in a calorie deficit. It's super easy to gain weight (or not lose weight, which is actually what you seem to be claiming) when you THINK you are in a calorie deficit. though!7 -
Always love when anecdotes are used as proof. I'll bet you if I TRACKED you, we'd find out why you aren't losing weight. And it usually comes down to eating more than you really think you do.lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
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andreakreymborg wrote: »If you really want to know sugar makes you fat because of the chemical reaction that happens when it is processed by our livers. This process stops the I'm full message getting to our brain. So our brain sends out the message "eat more food and don't do anything we are starving".
Search sweet poison in YouTube. It stooped me in my tracks.
Ugh. No, no, no. NOPE.
Youtube is NOT a trusted source if information. It is as trusted as facebook or tumblr. @andreakreymborg Try something credible backed up by science...lizziewhan wrote: »
This is absolutely right! I am proof that you CAN gain even when in a calorie deficit. I was counting calories and working my butt off and not losing. WHAT you eat is a lot more important than HOW much you eat. If I am eating too many carbs I just can not lose weight...even if I am under my calorie goal. Its taken a lot of trial and error to learn this.
Wow.
And I've lost almost 100lbs including sugar in my diet.
Ps, I am not a special snowflake, either.
I win!
Ps... science doesn't agree with you, either, unless you can find some scientific evidence to prove your.....point.4 -
traceyroy54 wrote: »Why?
Oh boy, I'm 15 pages late into this conversation......
It doesn't.
A surplus of food makes us fat.
I was fat my entire adulthood eating little or no added sugar, and I've lost weight and successfully kept it off having adding sugar in my diet.
Why do you think sugar makes you fat?4 -
Oh boy, I'm 15 pages late into this conversation......
It doesn't.
A surplus of food makes us fat.
I was fat my entire adulthood eating little or no added sugar, and I've lost weight and successfully kept it off having adding sugar in my diet.
Why do you think sugar makes you fat?
S'Okay. We got dis.
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An excess of calories makes us fat, no matter the source of those calories. Sugar calories aren't special.
Well, actually....they are.....
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lemurcat12 wrote: »
I love chocolate covered almonds. Pret sells them in a 220 calorie serving sizes with a dark, milk, and white chocolate mix (I like the dark chocolate ones the best). Of the 220 calories, 80 are from sugar, and 126 are from fat. These are pretty high sugar example of chocolate-covered almonds, but they were an easy source and I do enjoy them occasionally.
Curious why you thought of us, but since chocolate covered almonds are delicious, I will assume that we are associated with positive, joyful experiences!
Chocolate covered almonds are my kryptonite. I am eternally grateful that the dark chocolate (the only ones worth eating, imo) from my easiest source to grab decent ones, Trader Joes, have a cross-contamination warning on the label so I can't eat them.
I'll likely seek some out around Christmas. I always associate chocolate covered nuts with Christmas. When I was growing up, we always had a box of Whitman's chocolate covered nuts out on the cookie buffet all season. They were my favorite. I'm also fond of chocolate covered Brazil nuts. The fat to sugar ratio on those must be even higher.2 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »
I hear NASA is investigating it as a perpetual energy source for the trip to Mars.
I think sugar is going to power warp drived star ships in the future...only problem is going to be that the federation is going to be so obese they are all going to die from sugar overdoses...
kinda makes sense since Scotty was pretty fat in star trek...5
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