When you have 814 calories left and less than 2 hours left in your logging day...
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Again, why is everyone assuming OP was not hungry.3
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, why is everyone assuming OP was not hungry.
Seems a natural assumption. Hungry people typically just eat something rather than come to a forum to ask how to use up calories.5 -
jennybearlv wrote: »800 calories of cheese? It would be days before I pooped again.
I'm not sure I would eat 800 calories of cheese in one sitting, but I could certainly eat 800 calories of various cheeses spread out through the day. Omelet with cheddar for breakfast. Grilled American cheese for lunch. Mozzarella, fruit, and nuts for a snack. Tacos and beans with queso fresco for dinner. Brie on French bread for another snack. I'd still be able to poop though. Have you tried eating more fiber with your cheese?
I'm a cheese purist. If I'm going to eat 800 calories of cheese in a day, it's going to be straight off the wheel and paired with nothing. I don't want to ruin the majesty that is cheese by muddying it up with other lesser foods.
BTW, pooing is overrated anyway.
I've worked really hard on cutting alcohol intake this week, but it's seriously put a damper on my cheese enjoyment. Nice sharp cheddar isn't the same without a strong Belgian Quad.0 -
I know it's a day late, but Carrot Cake.
The answer is (almost) always Carrot Cake. With real cream cheese frosting, of course.
I wonder how many calories you would burn making carrot cake? If I used the hand grater rather than the food processor. And the hand mixer instead of the stand mixer to make the frosting. Hmm...4 -
I know it's a day late, but Carrot Cake.
The answer is (almost) always Carrot Cake. With real cream cheese frosting, of course.
I wonder how many calories you would burn making carrot cake? If I used the hand grater rather than the food processor. And the hand mixer instead of the stand mixer to make the frosting. Hmm...
Zero. A local pizza place has the best Carrot Cake. EVER. I don't mess with perfection.3 -
When I have 800 calories left and I'm not saving them for another day, they're definitely going into smoked mixed nuts! The serving size is so pathetic otherwise that I would rather not have them all together! Glad you enjoyed
Earning calories can feel so good with the freedom it affords you. I just wish my body was made of steel and did not break after every prolonged session needing a few days of rest. 3 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Again, why is everyone assuming OP was not hungry.
Seems a natural assumption. Hungry people typically just eat something rather than come to a forum to ask how to use up calories.
I interpreted her to be happy about the extra calories so just sharing, asking for yummy ideas. (I think she confirmed that when she came back to the thread too -- it was lighthearted.)5 -
Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
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For me it totally depends. Am I actually hungry? Do I crave anything specific? I'm not going to eat 800 calories of food that I'm not hungry or not in the mood for just because. I'd much rather save the calories for another day.2
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hmm..
A wheel of camembert or brie (the size at Aldi are ~800 calories).
A pint of ice cream (not sure how many calories).
A bottle of wine
Aldi just down the road from me ..well now I want brie I do have crackers from last weekend. YUM I guess I know what my breakfast and lunch will be Saturday 2 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout2 -
I wonder why you have so many calories left at the end of the day?
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jennybearlv wrote: »You guys are no fun. It's not often I get an extra 800 calories to indulge on.
I agree. I cracked up! but had not clever come back alas........1 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
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KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
Why wouldn't they? For one, underfueling is as bad as overfueling, and a "waste" is what you make it to be. For some people working so hard for the sole purpose of getting the calories back in is the a major reason for the exercise. It's worth every calorie eaten. If you aren't severely underfueling and don't feel the calories are worth eating, then that's up to you. Others may see it differently. No one can dictate anything's worth to other people because that's very individual. For me, for example, alcohol is not worth the calories, for others it may be.3 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
It's probably not my place to say since I'm trying to gain weight, but growing up with friends and family members who used to diet by overly restrictioning their calorie intake or exercising too much ended up binging on a regular basis, undoing all of their work. 800 calories is a lot; The Op can eat half of that and still be in a big deficit. I hope you enjoyed whatever it was that you ate OP!
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Brownies!
Or 3/4 of a pint of Ben and Jerry's The Tonight Dough (I save calories to eat a whole pint of this, 1240 calories, at least every other month)!1 -
SymbolismNZ wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »Why not 10 pm? Nothing wrong with eating at 10
There are plenty of scientific reasons; but hey, if it works for you, full power.
I would sure like to see you post some of these scientific studies to back of your statement.7 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
That's how MFP is designed to work though. You enter stats and an activity level that is based on daily activity excluding exercise. The goal you are provided assumes you will lose weight if you do no exercise at all or nothing beyond your normal daily activity. When you do exercise or something out of the ordinary like shoveling snow, you are meant to eat those calories back, at least some of them, so you don't end up with too large of a deficit which can have several negative outcomes.
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I would eat a healthy meal!
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Sweets1954 wrote: »I wonder why you have so many calories left at the end of the day?
She explained this.3 -
cerise_noir wrote: »No, there isn't. Your body doesn't recognize time, and it certainly doesn't stop digesting when you go to sleep.
I eat sometimes, up to an hour before sleep. It does not interrupt my sleep, or give me any discomfort. I've lost quite a bit of weight and still lose.
I love how people can be so sure of things when research indicates differently.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4425165/
TL;DR? Those that have a large complex meal within two hours before bed suffer irregular sleeping patterns, have higher appetites and such.
She was talking 800 calories, that's a substantial meal.0 -
jennybearlv wrote: »I ate all the Babybell cheeses in the house. What's next?
If I wasn't hungry I would pat myself on the back. Kind of a no-brainer I would think.0 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
There are two ways (more, but two major ones used here) to set up a calorie deficit. (1) average the exercise you plan to do over the week and eat based on the assumption that you will do that exercise (this is what I do); or (2) set a calorie goal assuming you don't exercise and then add in calories from exercise (this is the default MFP way).
In either case you eat more calories when you exercise more. That's because having an overly aggressive deficit is not a good idea and if you regularly eat like you are inactive when you are really active you will likely regret it.
So let's assume I use strategy 2, which is what OP seems to do, and have a base goal of 1400 calories based on losing 1 lb per week if I am not exercising. I run 10 miles, and burn between 800 and 900 calories doing that. You seem to be saying that I should totally ignore that and continue eating as if I were sedentary.3 -
I'd have a big bar of chocolate and end up with dry roasted nuts.1
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SymbolismNZ wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »No, there isn't. Your body doesn't recognize time, and it certainly doesn't stop digesting when you go to sleep.
I eat sometimes, up to an hour before sleep. It does not interrupt my sleep, or give me any discomfort. I've lost quite a bit of weight and still lose.
I love how people can be so sure of things when research indicates differently.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4425165/
TL;DR? Those that have a large complex meal within two hours before bed suffer irregular sleeping patterns, have higher appetites and such.
She was talking 800 calories, that's a substantial meal.
Did you read the link you cited?
First of all, this: "Similarly, studies in free-living healthy adults have shown that meal satiety also varies with time of day and that food intake during the night is less satiating and leads to greater daily caloric intake compared to food consumed in the morning hours [6,7]." -- if you check the cites -- is referring to one study, and there are a variety of different studies with different results, as others have noted. Even this study would not say not to eat late on one occasion, and says that it seems to be less satiating to have more calories later in the day ON AVERAGE. That doesn't mean it is for all humans, and what we do know is that satiety seems to be individual. Many people here eat the majority of their calories at night because that is easier for them. I eat dinner late (although not the majority of my calories at night, which is what this study is talking about), because (1) my lifestyle requires it, as I would not be able to have dinner otherwise, and (2) I do not struggle with hunger doing so. Indeed, I think eating late makes it easier for me as I am not tempted to snack after dinner ever.
The piece you cited goes on to say:
* "While data from animal studies appear to support this concept [8,9], not all studies concur [10]."
* Shift workers may have messed up body clocks and otherwise have problems. (Not relevant here.)
* Night Eating Syndrome (REGULARLY eating a LARGE PERCENTAGE of calories AFTER DINNER, not relevant here) is associated with obesity IN SOME STUDIES (i.e., not in others). Moreover, even as to those finding connections, "It is unclear, however, as to whether obesity is a consequence or cause of NES."
Further:
"These data from shift workers and NES populations provide some evidence to suggest that consuming the majority of daily nutrients late in the evening may have health consequences. However, this concept cannot be fully understood without considering, the influence of sleep, or lack thereof.....
Indeed, some epidemiological data suggests that consuming a higher proportion of calories later in the day, as opposed to earlier in the day, is associated weight gain [13,14,15,16,17]. However, not all studies agree [12,36,38,43]. It is important to note that several inconsistencies exist in the research examining the effect of late evening caloric intake and body weight.....
Despite these inconsistencies it is evident that consuming large quantities of food (binge eating) in the late evening may have adverse health implications."
And again, I think being aware of how something affects you, vs. what some studies (but not others) say it may do on average is a much more sensible approach if someone wants to find a sustainable approach for them.
Not to mention that bringing this up when OP was talking about a one time thing is confusing.13 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
There are two ways (more, but two major ones used here) to set up a calorie deficit. (1) average the exercise you plan to do over the week and eat based on the assumption that you will do that exercise (this is what I do); or (2) set a calorie goal assuming you don't exercise and then add in calories from exercise (this is the default MFP way).
In either case you eat more calories when you exercise more. That's because having an overly aggressive deficit is not a good idea and if you regularly eat like you are inactive when you are really active you will likely regret it.
So let's assume I use strategy 2, which is what OP seems to do, and have a base goal of 1400 calories based on losing 1 lb per week if I am not exercising. I run 10 miles, and burn between 800 and 900 calories doing that. You seem to be saying that I should totally ignore that and continue eating as if I were sedentary.
I reply to you cos it's the only comment I read, I realize my mistake of saying my thoughts on this forums, it shall not happen again, k? sorry for the bothe, jesus .0 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
There are two ways (more, but two major ones used here) to set up a calorie deficit. (1) average the exercise you plan to do over the week and eat based on the assumption that you will do that exercise (this is what I do); or (2) set a calorie goal assuming you don't exercise and then add in calories from exercise (this is the default MFP way).
In either case you eat more calories when you exercise more. That's because having an overly aggressive deficit is not a good idea and if you regularly eat like you are inactive when you are really active you will likely regret it.
So let's assume I use strategy 2, which is what OP seems to do, and have a base goal of 1400 calories based on losing 1 lb per week if I am not exercising. I run 10 miles, and burn between 800 and 900 calories doing that. You seem to be saying that I should totally ignore that and continue eating as if I were sedentary.
I reply to you cos it's the only comment I read, I realize my mistake of saying my thoughts on this forums, it shall not happen again, k? sorry for the bothe, jesus .
Why so defensive when people take the time to explain something that is commonly misunderstood?10 -
KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »KatzeDerNacht22 wrote: »Happens to me sometimes, I might eat some nuts, but if there's calories left, then they are left, unless I am so far from my macro count, but if I didn't eat them it's cos I didn't want to and that's fine.
Oh..I just saw you "earned" them to indulge... I don't agree with that, I mean, a bit sure, but 800? For me it's a waste to work so hard just to get it back in, but hey, if you must, I am sure there's plenty of things very high in calories.
I believe she said she "earned" them by shoveling snow which is a chore and a workout
I stand my ground, I just don't understand why would people do that ( eat said extra/earned whatever calories) , sorry, not trying to be an as$hat
There are two ways (more, but two major ones used here) to set up a calorie deficit. (1) average the exercise you plan to do over the week and eat based on the assumption that you will do that exercise (this is what I do); or (2) set a calorie goal assuming you don't exercise and then add in calories from exercise (this is the default MFP way).
In either case you eat more calories when you exercise more. That's because having an overly aggressive deficit is not a good idea and if you regularly eat like you are inactive when you are really active you will likely regret it.
So let's assume I use strategy 2, which is what OP seems to do, and have a base goal of 1400 calories based on losing 1 lb per week if I am not exercising. I run 10 miles, and burn between 800 and 900 calories doing that. You seem to be saying that I should totally ignore that and continue eating as if I were sedentary.
I reply to you cos it's the only comment I read, I realize my mistake of saying my thoughts on this forums, it shall not happen again, k? sorry for the bothe, jesus .
Weird reaction.
You said you didn't understand, so I was explaining why. Why are you taking my explanation as some kind of insult? Is it not okay to explain something to you or disagree, even when you seemed to want to understand why others would do something?7 -
buffalo wings would be great!3
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