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"I want to get in shape, unless it requires effort..."
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I joke that I'm just going to start telling people I soak pine cones in cat urine over night and then eat them for breakfast.
I haven't yet, because I'm sure there is someone out there that will try it, and I don't want to be held responsible.21 -
I always get asked for recipes and actually made a recipe book for Xmas which detailed the calories for each dish just because people seem to think that "healthy" can't mean nice? ! I love feeding people super delicious meals that are low calorie. Also people think that "healthy" food and "diet" food are the same thing, a short term change. It's hard to explain to people I dont eat "healthy" as they see it.... I just eat!!!! Just because it's not "junk" food for every meal doesn't make it bland, boring or a specific diet. It's just real food. That doesn't equate lots of effort any more than their food does!6
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My set response is "Aids". I just don't want to get into the arguments that normally ensue. If someone really wants to know, I'll sit down and explain it, but I'm kinda done with the casual conversations about my weight loss.
Someone got mad at me because I don't give a *kitten* about refined sugars.7 -
I always get asked for recipes and actually made a recipe book for Xmas which detailed the calories for each dish just because people seem to think that "healthy" can't mean nice? ! I love feeding people super delicious meals that are low calorie. Also people think that "healthy" food and "diet" food are the same thing, a short term change. It's hard to explain to people I dont eat "healthy" as they see it.... I just eat!!!! Just because it's not "junk" food for every meal doesn't make it bland, boring or a specific diet. It's just real food. That doesn't equate lots of effort any more than their food does!
My MIL thinks I don't eat desserts anymore.0 -
Awww I'm sad people find brown rice and steamed broccoli dull... I do enjoy that stuff.10
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »my sister is the same way,she tells me" I cant do what you do" I said what count calories,weigh your food and get exercise in? she thinks Im on some restrictive diet when I tell her I still eat things I like,I just dont overdo it, she says" I just love food too much".yet she is always crying and whining about being fat(her words not mine). she will also do whatever it is she does to lose some weight then she goes right back to gaining it back and then some. I told her it gets easier once you do it for awhile and its not as hard as it sounds. I guess she just isnt ready.
My sister said those exact words to me. She used to be a Weight Watchers leader. She understands how weight loss works, but I guess deep down, she's just not willing to eat less and is convinced that there's some way to hack her body now.
She's doing some weird food combining thing that tries to make you think you can eat as much as you want as long as you eat it in the right combination.3 -
How many of us were that person at one point though?
It took me 15 years of trying to lose weight to just start counting calories. I was resistant and confused. I tried lots of other things. I did think it would be too annoying or time consuming probably because so many diets and programs promise big quick results. I was wrong. Calorie counting is the easiest, safest thing I've done for weight loss and the most effective. I even prelog my whole day of meals every morning in under 15 minutes.
Hopefully that guy will actually give it a try someday. I'm sure glad I did.
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I remember when I was on the other side of this and I didn't want to change.
It seemed too hard and when I'd lost weight before I restricted myself terribly and the idea of doing that again for however long was depressing.
Eventually, I realized losing weight doesn't have to be this horrible thing. I think a lot of overweight/obese people live under this false assumption that in order to lose the weight they have to eat 'clean'.6 -
Wait a sec...I'm just jealous that you have a gym at work!!
I'm certain I've been "that guy" who is waiting for the miracle answer...how can I EASILY look like you?! lol I'm doing it now I'm sure...how can I EASILY integrate exercise in my busy day? Someone please wake me up every morning, push me out the door and make me run or something, then bring me to work...see that's the kind of answer I'm looking for
At least you are nice and tell him the truth, maybe one day he'll try it.3 -
Rachel0778 wrote: »She invited me over for dinner tonight. She said she made boneless/skinless chicken breast, brown rice and steamed broccoli "just for you!" Ummm.... OK. But I hope to hell you don't think I've eaten like that every day for the last 2 1/2 years. I prefer chicken thighs with extra crispy skin, white rice pilaf and broccoli with a little butter or cheese sauce.
*Gag* Please tell me she added spices/seasonings at least? I'm all for healthy food, but I hate it when people equate healthy food with bland food.
I won't be eating there until later tonight. But things aren't promising. When I went there for a cookout this summer the grilled chicken was cremated and the asparagus cooked to mush. I loathe overcooked foods. Boneless skinless chicken takes a bit of skill to cook properly and there is a general tendency in the midwest to cook things into oblivion, then cook 5 more minutes "just in case."5 -
I think one important thing to keep in mind is that a lot of people become overweight over a long period of time. It's often the result of increasing responsibilities in their lives getting in the way, and sometimes medical issues as well. They don't realize how small changes have added up over time, they simply go through a sudden "wow, I've really gained weight" moment.
When you already feel overwhelmed by everything you have going on, the idea of having to take on one more daily task (counting calories) and one more thing to organize (planning meals/macros) can seem like too much. It's especially overwhelming to people who know they aren't making the best choices, but also know they are making those choices because they can't find the time to make better choices (think eating out/take out vs cooking at home).
The process of weight loss is a learning endeavor for everyone. And like any other skill you learn, you need to have the time to practice to get good at it. That means having time to learn about food tracking, figuring out what approach to food works best for you, figuring out how much activity you need, what activity you prefer, scheduling time to do it....a lot those things can be obstacles for people.
I think those actually tend to be the real stumbling blocks for people which derail them. The "eat less, move more" is great in theory, what many people are looking for is someone to help them look at their individual situation and figure out how to implement it. Unfortunately, I think that often gets read as "they don't want it badly enough." It takes some people longer to process everything and be able to see it in a way that is possible in their lives. I figure if people are asking questions, it's because they are trying to learn more and make a change, and that's a good thing.23 -
Assuming this guy is going to the gym and actually working out, he is putting effort into fitness. Also, on the same assumption, he is probably somewhat fit, what he is not, I am guessing, is thin. There is a difference between thin and fit, and one is not required for the other. I agree it's weird he keeps asking though.1
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I get this too. It does get old. People ask what I do....then say they cant eat like me, they need real food. Apparently donuts and nachos are real food and salad is not! LOL6
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I remember when I was on the other side of this and I didn't want to change.
It seemed too hard and when I'd lost weight before I restricted myself terribly and the idea of doing that again for however long was depressing.
Eventually, I realized losing weight doesn't have to be this horrible thing. I think a lot of overweight/obese people live under this false assumption that in order to lose the weight they have to eat 'clean'.
Actually the guy who asked me isn't really in bad shape, he lifts and does cardio regularly. He is just nearing 50 and has lost his "edge" (as he put it) - he said his wife misses his 6 pack, lol. It really wouldn't take a lot of effort for him to drop 10-15 lbs if he was willing to do it gradually between now and the spring/summer, just a small caloric deficit every day.0 -
Well I'd guess that's the answer right there. His wife misses the 6-pack...he doesn't! Maybe seeing your 6 pack (assuming you have one) reminds him of some comment she made and spurs the question. I hope he doesn't ask next year, maybe his wife will be nicer in 2017!5
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I think those actually tend to be the real stumbling blocks for people which derail them. The "eat less, move more" is great in theory, what many people are looking for is someone to help them look at their individual situation and figure out how to implement it. Unfortunately, I think that often gets read as "they don't want it badly enough." It takes some people longer to process everything and be able to see it in a way that is possible in their lives. I figure if people are asking questions, it's because they are trying to learn more and make a change, and that's a good thing.
I felt like he lost interest when my solution required him to do something different. He wasn’t like “how do you track calories?”, “how big of a deficit do I need to have each day/week?”, “how long do you think it would take me to lose X pounds?”, there was no real follow up. He disengaged after I told him my “secret”, it was almost like he felt he had committed to making an effort to reach out to me, heard something that he didn’t feel was worth attempting, and then moved on. He is an extremely bright guy (I have had work dealings with him over the years) and could easily crunch the numbers if he decided that was what he wanted to do.
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The 'I don't have time thing' resonated with me. It doesn't take time to eat in deficit, certainly much less time than working out endlessly.
As simple as 'losing weight mostly happens in the kitchen', people just don't buy in and want to spend money on something 'easy'.
Its a vicious cycle and I don't see things changing any time soon. The new generation is being bombarded by all sorts of ridiculous information.8 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »my sister is the same way,she tells me" I cant do what you do" I said what count calories,weigh your food and get exercise in? she thinks Im on some restrictive diet when I tell her I still eat things I like,I just dont overdo it, she says" I just love food too much".yet she is always crying and whining about being fat(her words not mine). she will also do whatever it is she does to lose some weight then she goes right back to gaining it back and then some. I told her it gets easier once you do it for awhile and its not as hard as it sounds. I guess she just isnt ready.
My sister said those exact words to me. She used to be a Weight Watchers leader. She understands how weight loss works, but I guess deep down, she's just not willing to eat less and is convinced that there's some way to hack her body now.
She's doing some weird food combining thing that tries to make you think you can eat as much as you want as long as you eat it in the right combination.
the funny thing is she will ask me time and time again how to lose it. i tell her and its like" I cant do that I dont have time" if you have time to run the roads you have time to workout lol.for her though she would start losing weight and not see the results(mainly her belly fat) she wanted and give up. her issue is she needs surgery because she has muscle separation where she had kids but hers goes both ways(up and down and side to side separation). drs told her its bad enough she would need surgery. so she just decided if she cant lose the belly then its not worth it.0 -
How many of us were that person at one point though?
It took me 15 years of trying to lose weight to just start counting calories. I was resistant and confused. I tried lots of other things. I did think it would be too annoying or time consuming probably because so many diets and programs promise big quick results. I was wrong. Calorie counting is the easiest, safest thing I've done for weight loss and the most effective. I even prelog my whole day of meals every morning in under 15 minutes.
Hopefully that guy will actually give it a try someday. I'm sure glad I did.
I was not really that other person though. the last few times I lost weight I didnt even try,but I always gained it back and that was before I understood why. Then I became proactive about losing the weight,I got tired of being out of breath,no stamina,etc. so I said enough is enough.I am not a person who would "diet" to lose weight. this is the first time I really have "dieted" to lose the weight.This time I am really making the effort. before I didnt really have to think about it or even log/weigh food.I never did WW/NS/etc or any fad diet out there.0 -
Sounds like how I used to be. I'd admit to being lazy all day long (still am) but you could never convince me that I was overeating. It was my metabolism, genetics, lack of time to work out, anything except overeating that was causing my problem. When I started counting calories and saw immediate results, it was like I stumbled onto some black magic or something because there was just no way EATING LESS could help me lose weight, and it was SO MUCH EASIER AND FASTER than beating the hell out of myself at the gym for no results.
That was my brain as a fat person. I don't know how I rembered to put on pants every day with that kind of thought process.9
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