Name Change vote?

JoRocka
JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
edited November 15 in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
Is that possible? can we vote to change it back?

Maybe I'm bias- but I'd like to see it go back to just Gaining Weight.

any takers?

the shift in the force is perceptible here.

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  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    Yes please. I'm seeing more posts from people wanting to lose weight and the emphasis is more towards body building.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    Ps it was raised in the feedback and suggestions forum too.
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    I agree. It's weird now. Bodybuilders will still post in the Gaining Weight section anyway. It's just all confuzzled now.
  • no44s4me
    no44s4me Posts: 73 Member
    Hmmm....maybe. That being said, a couple of years into my journey, I'm not sure I would consider cutting the same as "losing weight". Nor would I consider bulking the same as "gaining weight". Personally, I'm willing to take the bs posts in hopes of a few nuggets of truth. Can't wait to focus again on bulking again...coffee chocolate mm's? Really?
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    no44s4me wrote: »
    Hmmm....maybe. That being said, a couple of years into my journey, I'm not sure I would consider cutting the same as "losing weight". Nor would I consider bulking the same as "gaining weight". Personally, I'm willing to take the bs posts in hopes of a few nuggets of truth. Can't wait to focus again on bulking again...coffee chocolate mm's? Really?

    Wait? That's a thing??! None for me (ok, just a little). I'm a pansy, #foreverRecomp.
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    My vote is for "Gaining weight and Bulking." Or just Gaining Weight, like it used to be. We all know what that meant.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    I wonder if the name change will scare away folks (especially young women) who are underweight and not looking to be a "bodybuilder", something they already are often afraid of.

    I've always thought it was odd to include these two groups in the same forum, though I suppose the number of underweight posters is pretty low compared to everyone else. Maybe they can trash the debate forum, and then split this into a Gaining Weight forum and a Bodybuilding or maybe Gaining Muscle forum?
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    no44s4me wrote: »
    Hmmm....maybe. That being said, a couple of years into my journey, I'm not sure I would consider cutting the same as "losing weight". Nor would I consider bulking the same as "gaining weight". Personally, I'm willing to take the bs posts in hopes of a few nuggets of truth. Can't wait to focus again on bulking again...coffee chocolate mm's? Really?

    yeah- I am pleased to help people- but ... things don't seem the same.
    williams969 wrote: »
    no44s4me wrote: »
    Hmmm....maybe. That being said, a couple of years into my journey, I'm not sure I would consider cutting the same as "losing weight". Nor would I consider bulking the same as "gaining weight". Personally, I'm willing to take the bs posts in hopes of a few nuggets of truth. Can't wait to focus again on bulking again...coffee chocolate mm's? Really?

    Wait? That's a thing??! None for me (ok, just a little). I'm a pansy, #foreverRecomp.

    it is- I learned this recently also (check out my bulking bishes thread!)- I felt like everything I knew was a lie. I still haven't found them. #stilllookingformysoulmate
    kimny72 wrote: »
    I wonder if the name change will scare away folks (especially young women) who are underweight and not looking to be a "bodybuilder", something they already are often afraid of.

    I've always thought it was odd to include these two groups in the same forum, though I suppose the number of underweight posters is pretty low compared to everyone else. Maybe they can trash the debate forum, and then split this into a Gaining Weight forum and a Bodybuilding or maybe Gaining Muscle forum?

    Maybe- We never had a huge influx of people in here looking to gain- but it happened- a small but steady stream- it was a nice kind of quiet corner honestly. It doesn't feel like that any more.
    I wouldn't want to separate gaining weight from gaining muscle- those things technically would be the same thing (ideally- few people flat out want to gain fat)

    Unsure- I know I haven't been AS active (getting married will do that to you LOL) but now that I'm done stalking the hell out of the wedding forums- I am back here more regularly and I was here for the name change and there is a definite shift. Maybe I need more time to adjust.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    williams969 wrote: »
    My vote is for "Gaining weight and Bulking." Or just Gaining Weight, like it used to be. We all know what that meant.

    Agreed!
    kimny72 wrote: »
    I wonder if the name change will scare away folks (especially young women) who are underweight and not looking to be a "bodybuilder", something they already are often afraid of.

    I've always thought it was odd to include these two groups in the same forum, though I suppose the number of underweight posters is pretty low compared to everyone else. Maybe they can trash the debate forum, and then split this into a Gaining Weight forum and a Bodybuilding or maybe Gaining Muscle forum?

    Maybe the number of underweight posters has reduced because of the name change?
    I came here to gain weight,not necessarily to bulk. I'm not young and don't have an eating disorder.
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    I will say that I'm all in for the new name if adding the "bodybuilding" part keeps the Apetamin threads out. :D

    LOL- there aren't that many of those! On the other hand maybe reverting to the original name will keep out threads about needing to gain water weight quickly. Wtf?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

  • Cylphin60
    Cylphin60 Posts: 863 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    Not "bad" per se, but it would be nice if new members were met with a scripted "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION!" in bright red, 3 inch high caps for the first 10 attempts to create a new thread. :)

    Every day I see new threads being answered the same way by mfp faithfuls when there might be 3 other threads with the exact same topic and answers in full view on that page.

    That alone would probably handle 50% or more of the OPs concerns.
  • jmule24
    jmule24 Posts: 1,382 Member
    @JoRocka I vote for : "People who embrace sugary goodness!!!! "
  • jdscrubs32
    jdscrubs32 Posts: 515 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    not a fan... i preferred gaining weight...
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.

    But there's nothing wrong with new people posting! I'm relatively new - hopefully we're not all hopeless newbies and even if we are,this is a great place to learn.
    I don't understand the reason behind the change of name - if something isn't broken,why fix it.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    chocolate_owl wrote: »
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.

    But there's nothing wrong with new people posting! I'm relatively new - hopefully we're not all hopeless newbies and even if we are,this is a great place to learn.
    I don't understand the reason behind the change of name - if something isn't broken,why fix it.

    Of course new people can/should post, but to come in and arrogantly talk down to the rest of the community with an air of superiority about one's diet/fitness regime is grating and uncalled for. Most people who do this end up figuring out that their attitude is unwelcome and either get it together or GTFO, but some don't, and it's getting tiresome.

    I'd vote for going back to "Gaining Weight" and dropping the bodybuilding. I lurk in here a lot because all the cool kids who know how to make gains are here, and I hope someday I'll be actively participating on this side of things. It's a great resource. The tone definitely has changed with the name change... There's more dreck to sift through and a lot of misplaced threads that belong over in General or Losing Weight. (Same is true for Debate... I almost wish you couldn't start a thread in that section without posting a hyperlink to a scientific article or study, but alas.)

    the debate forum is just a place to dump all the crap that the powers that be don't want in the main forums...
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.

    But there's nothing wrong with new people posting! I'm relatively new - hopefully we're not all hopeless newbies and even if we are,this is a great place to learn.
    I don't understand the reason behind the change of name - if something isn't broken,why fix it.

    it's not "new people posting".

    I suspect you're fairly new to this corner as you joined in Sept. But the reason is it is NOT the same.
    This is long been a quiet bastion away from the chaos- the change in name has definitely changed that. As someone pointed out up thread- hopefully things will settle- I hadn't considered the January influx- because quite frankly that usually doesn't impact us in here.

    But- it's a good point- and maybe it'll settle back down. Just seems- not the cozy normal corner of which I am accustomed.
  • not_a_runner
    not_a_runner Posts: 1,343 Member
    I do enjoy having a "bodybuilding" section for when fitness/exercise doesn't seem as applicable. (Like bulking/cutting) But I have noticed there have been a lot of "I need help cutting" posts since the name change, which definitely doesn't belong in the weight gain forum.
    For a moment I thought why not add a bodybuilding section? But that would over lap with fitness/exercise too much I suppose.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    TresaAswegan wrote: »
    I do enjoy having a "bodybuilding" section for when fitness/exercise doesn't seem as applicable. (Like bulking/cutting) But I have noticed there have been a lot of "I need help cutting" posts since the name change, which definitely doesn't belong in the weight gain forum.
    For a moment I thought why not add a bodybuilding section? But that would over lap with fitness/exercise too much I suppose.

    The weight gaining section was sort of the unofficial spot for where we all sort of landed anyway- most of MFP power lifters and body builders (what true BB we have) found themselves in here- it was no joke a sort of cove.

    #IadmitthatIamselfishandIwantourspotback
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.

    But there's nothing wrong with new people posting! I'm relatively new - hopefully we're not all hopeless newbies and even if we are,this is a great place to learn.
    I don't understand the reason behind the change of name - if something isn't broken,why fix it.

    it's not "new people posting".

    I suspect you're fairly new to this corner as you joined in Sept. But the reason is it is NOT the same.
    This is long been a quiet bastion away from the chaos- the change in name has definitely changed that. As someone pointed out up thread- hopefully things will settle- I hadn't considered the January influx- because quite frankly that usually doesn't impact us in here.

    But- it's a good point- and maybe it'll settle back down. Just seems- not the cozy normal corner of which I am accustomed.

    Yes I'm fairly new,you're right. I did actually point that out!
    I was actually supporting your suggestion that the name is changed back as even I have noticed that things have changed. For me this forum has been a valuable source of information but now it just seems to be a mish mash of stuff that,as someone else has said,is more about weight loss or (long,pointless and frequently aggressive) "debate"

  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,427 MFP Moderator
    Ultimately, this came out of several other threads that I have posted in (which I post in about 90 to 95% of the post to ensure this forum is fairly active). But during the spring and summer time, there was a lot of people (post bulk) who wanted advice in cutting, people who are advanced and don't need the typical advice from F&E, F&N and GD&WL sections. So I brought up about potentially doing a name change to incorporate more people into our niche group of people who actually give two kittens about their body outside of basic weight loss. It was also a bit self serving on my par, but I was hoping if it was more inclusive to bodybuilding, that we would stop getting so many apetamin threads, followed by their follow up threads about how they hated their bodies after they used it. Surprising right.. it's not like we told them that gaining 3 to 4 lbs a week was a kitten idea.

    I don't think it would benefit us by going back to gaining weight, but I am open to suggestions if it would provide more clarity. But I will say, we often has trolls. They do get bored easily, so give it more time. In the mean time, if you do have some good ideas, please let me know. I am willing to work with things a bit. And stuff like name changes are easier and can be done by an admin.
  • cnbbnc
    cnbbnc Posts: 1,267 Member
    Just my humble opinion, but maybe scrap the entire name and call it "bulking/cutting" instead.

    That doesn't help those who are simply trying to gain weight though... Is there really a reason to have a "chit chat" and a "fun and games" forum? Maybe change one of those to "gaining weight"?
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    comptonelizabeth wrote: »
    jdscrubs32 wrote: »
    psuLemon wrote: »
    @JoRocka give it time and I will guarantee you things will slowly get back to better. This always happens in January with all the New Years Resolutions and the occasional BB.com troll coming over. But in a month, many people will start to fall off or banned.

    I do realize that there has been an increase in traffic, but I don't think most of it has been bad...

    @JoRocka I would second what @psuLemon said. It is a bit like January in the gym at the moment with all the new people but once February comes, it will go back to the normal people who used to post in here. Well at least I hope it does cos the one person that has started in here in January is incredibly over the top for my liking. Wont name him but I think we all know who he is.

    But there's nothing wrong with new people posting! I'm relatively new - hopefully we're not all hopeless newbies and even if we are,this is a great place to learn.
    I don't understand the reason behind the change of name - if something isn't broken,why fix it.

    it's not "new people posting".

    I suspect you're fairly new to this corner as you joined in Sept. But the reason is it is NOT the same.
    This is long been a quiet bastion away from the chaos- the change in name has definitely changed that. As someone pointed out up thread- hopefully things will settle- I hadn't considered the January influx- because quite frankly that usually doesn't impact us in here.

    But- it's a good point- and maybe it'll settle back down. Just seems- not the cozy normal corner of which I am accustomed.

    Yes I'm fairly new,you're right. I did actually point that out!
    I was actually supporting your suggestion that the name is changed back as even I have noticed that things have changed. For me this forum has been a valuable source of information but now it just seems to be a mish mash of stuff that,as someone else has said,is more about weight loss or (long,pointless and frequently aggressive) "debate"

    I apologize- I miss read your post- I thought you were saying the current name was "if not broke don't fix"
    100% my mistake.
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Ultimately, this came out of several other threads that I have posted in (which I post in about 90 to 95% of the post to ensure this forum is fairly active). But during the spring and summer time, there was a lot of people (post bulk) who wanted advice in cutting, people who are advanced and don't need the typical advice from F&E, F&N and GD&WL sections. So I brought up about potentially doing a name change to incorporate more people into our niche group of people who actually give two kittens about their body outside of basic weight loss. It was also a bit self serving on my par, but I was hoping if it was more inclusive to bodybuilding, that we would stop getting so many apetamin threads, followed by their follow up threads about how they hated their bodies after they used it. Surprising right.. it's not like we told them that gaining 3 to 4 lbs a week was a kitten idea.

    I don't think it would benefit us by going back to gaining weight, but I am open to suggestions if it would provide more clarity. But I will say, we often has trolls. They do get bored easily, so give it more time. In the mean time, if you do have some good ideas, please let me know. I am willing to work with things a bit. And stuff like name changes are easier and can be done by an admin.

    understood- I know I was sort of divorced from the forums for a while even though still tracking- so I probably missed a lot of this. But I can see the logic.

    I am hopeful as someone pointed out that it'll settle down- but I'm not crazy right- this isn't QUIET the same as it was in terms of the flow of people.

    I think we have been admittedly spoiled by this little niche. And you know- change can be... ahem- difficult LOL.

    As I don't have another suggestion for the good of the order- and we think going backwards isn't a good idea- perhaps we revisit in 6-9 months and see what we think?
  • Sloth2016
    Sloth2016 Posts: 838 Member
    Howzabout "Gaining Muscle" ?
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,571 Member
    Sloth2016 wrote: »
    Howzabout "Gaining Muscle" ?

    That will be a hot mess.
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