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So. What's the worst weight loss myth?
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chastinasquyres wrote: »Modern definition of Myth: a widely held but false belief or idea. I believe that the biggest modern myth is that farming, food, and Pharma are working to make us healthy. America is about profit not people and the brainwashing permeates everything we eat and believe. I do not need to go into detail myself because it has been covered for generations, by far smarter people than I. All you need to do is look it up!
http://www.alternet.org/food/how-monsanto-went-selling-aspirin-controlling-our-food-supply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOLG1VGy0s
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/07/26/monsanto-gmo-subsidies.aspx
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/10/22/the-toxic-triad-how-big-food-big-farming-and-big-pharma-spread-obesity-diabetes-and-chronic-disease-across-the-globe/
http://naturalsociety.com/8-ways-corporations-poisoning-food-water-humans-earth/
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/monsantos-sealed-documents-reveal-truth-behind-roundups-toxicological-dangers
Yeah, lots of the conspiracy theories about Monsanto definitely are fun food myths. Great submission!18 -
Lest our rush to judgment be too hasty, it is well to bear in mind: What's good for the gander may cook the goose.
That is, a diet that turns one person into Superman/woman may turn the next into the Michelin Man....
Unless you're talking about different people needing different calorie levels, nah.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »chastinasquyres wrote: »Modern definition of Myth: a widely held but false belief or idea. I believe that the biggest modern myth is that farming, food, and Pharma are working to make us healthy. America is about profit not people and the brainwashing permeates everything we eat and believe. I do not need to go into detail myself because it has been covered for generations, by far smarter people than I. All you need to do is look it up!
http://www.alternet.org/food/how-monsanto-went-selling-aspirin-controlling-our-food-supplyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOLG1VGy0s
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/07/26/monsanto-gmo-subsidies.aspx
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/10/22/the-toxic-triad-how-big-food-big-farming-and-big-pharma-spread-obesity-diabetes-and-chronic-disease-across-the-globe/
http://naturalsociety.com/8-ways-corporations-poisoning-food-water-humans-earth/
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/monsantos-sealed-documents-reveal-truth-behind-roundups-toxicological-dangers
Yeah, lots of the conspiracy theories about Monsanto definitely are fun food myths. Great submission!
Alternet.org, MercoLOLa, Hyman and Monsanto all in one post. Solid. Could we maybe somehow sneak in Taubes, Lustig and Dr. Oz to make the woo and fearmongering complete?12 -
Myth: you need to eat to lose weight
Lol that logic
Probably a good idea to eat, though, yep0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »
You expect people to read the post before they reply? Where do you think you are?5 -
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Just come across this gem:
Moon diet: Having only liquids one day a week on the date of the full moon, new moon, first quarter, and last quarter, in order to take advantage of the moon's power to get you to gain or lose weight more rapidly on those dates.14 -
Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels.5
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singingflutelady wrote: »
Lips. Lips dammit. A moment on the lips.1 -
trigden1991 wrote: »Just come across this gem:
Moon diet: Having only liquids one day a week on the date of the full moon, new moon, first quarter, and last quarter, in order to take advantage of the moon's power to get you to gain or lose weight more rapidly on those dates.
Where is the head exploding gif?????3 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »singingflutelady wrote: »
Lips. Lips dammit. A moment on the lips.
Haha sorry0 -
chastinasquyres wrote: »Modern definition of Myth: a widely held but false belief or idea. I believe that the biggest modern myth is that farming, food, and Pharma are working to make us healthy. America is about profit not people and the brainwashing permeates everything we eat and believe. I do not need to go into detail myself because it has been covered for generations, by far smarter people than I. All you need to do is look it up!
http://www.alternet.org/food/how-monsanto-went-selling-aspirin-controlling-our-food-supplyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOLG1VGy0s
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/07/26/monsanto-gmo-subsidies.aspx
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/10/22/the-toxic-triad-how-big-food-big-farming-and-big-pharma-spread-obesity-diabetes-and-chronic-disease-across-the-globe/
http://naturalsociety.com/8-ways-corporations-poisoning-food-water-humans-earth/
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/monsantos-sealed-documents-reveal-truth-behind-roundups-toxicological-dangers
Hyman and Mercola.
Yeah....seems legit.
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"You can only lose weight and maintain that loss by watching the glycemic load of food"
Had that gem thrown at me today during the coffee break. Guy was super irritated when I mentioned that I lost 30kg eating what I was eating (snickers bar during that particular conversation... pretty sure it doesn't fit into his concept of foods needed to lose weight and maintain that loss...). It was followed by a 'sugar is the devil' rant.
That snickers was really good btw... :drool:10 -
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kristikitter wrote: »
Whoever said that has an eating disorder...5 -
Weight loss myths
- Starvation mode
- Cardio is bad
- Lifting heavy (HR/LW is better than LW/HR)
- ______________ (Any food) is "bad"
- Targeted fat burning
- Protein powders, shakes, and gimmicks make HUGE improvements over normal eating
- Everyone is a special snowflake - CICO doesn't work
- Health is anything less than mind, body, and spirit all aligned
- etc...
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singingflutelady wrote: »
Ugh! my dad used to say that - a moment on the lips a lifetime on the hips. He also use to talk about thunder thighs
Weirdly I don't think my weight issues come from him. More from being around my adoptive sisters who were teeny tiny - I felt huge around them, when in reality I wasn't overweight at all.
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californiagirl2012 wrote: »Starvation mode and meal timing! But actually starvation mode really does happen for those under 12% body fat as proved by the Army Doctors in a study that only the military can do because they literally own your butt. haha.
I'd love to see that study.
I *think* they're referring to this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25782294
Of course, this doesn't really prove "starvation mode" as it is often used in conversation, but it is an interesting and heartbreaking read on some of the dangers of long-term low-calorie diets. I used to have the full text but I think I've misplaced it. Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia, which I realize isn't an awesome source, but it lined up well with what I remember from the actual study.Among the conclusions from the study was the confirmation that prolonged semi-starvation produces significant increases in depression, hysteria and hypochondriasis as measured using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory. Indeed, most of the subjects experienced periods of severe emotional distress and depression.[1]:161 There were extreme reactions to the psychological effects during the experiment including self-mutilation (one subject amputated three fingers of his hand with an axe, though the subject was unsure if he had done so intentionally or accidentally).[6] Participants exhibited a preoccupation with food, both during the starvation period and the rehabilitation phase. Sexual interest was drastically reduced, and the volunteers showed signs of social withdrawal and isolation.[1]:123–124 The participants reported a decline in concentration, comprehension and judgment capabilities, although the standardized tests administered showed no actual signs of diminished capacity. This ought not, however, to be taken as an indication that capacity to work, study and learn will not be affected by starvation or intensive dieting. There were marked declines in physiological processes indicative of decreases in each subject's basal metabolic rate (the energy required by the body in a state of rest), reflected in reduced body temperature, respiration and heart rate. Some of the subjects exhibited edema in their extremities, presumably due to decreased levels of plasma proteins given that the body's ability to construct key proteins like albumin is based on available energy sources.0 -
chastinasquyres wrote: »Modern definition of Myth: a widely held but false belief or idea. I believe that the biggest modern myth is that farming, food, and Pharma are working to make us healthy. America is about profit not people and the brainwashing permeates everything we eat and believe. I do not need to go into detail myself because it has been covered for generations, by far smarter people than I. All you need to do is look it up!
http://www.alternet.org/food/how-monsanto-went-selling-aspirin-controlling-our-food-supplyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHOLG1VGy0s
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/07/26/monsanto-gmo-subsidies.aspx
http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/10/22/the-toxic-triad-how-big-food-big-farming-and-big-pharma-spread-obesity-diabetes-and-chronic-disease-across-the-globe/
http://naturalsociety.com/8-ways-corporations-poisoning-food-water-humans-earth/
https://www.organicconsumers.org/news/monsantos-sealed-documents-reveal-truth-behind-roundups-toxicological-dangers
Great list of myths! There are some really good ones in there.7 -
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How about "being Fat is in my genetics, I can't be smaller"8
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Skip dinner. I hate how people say if you skip a meal you will lose weight. You won't.0
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Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »Skip dinner. I hate how people say if you skip a meal you will lose weight. You won't.
You will if you are in a calorie deficit. If I skip meals it is the first meal of the day since I usually don't like eating in the morning. If a person simply skips a meal with no thought about overall calories, they usually make it up with other meals or snacks.
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The various diets "egg diet, cabbage diet, grapefruit diet" all paired of course with exercise and only eating 1200 calories but yeah, no it is totally the eggs making you lose the weight. SMDH
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That there are "good foods" and "bad foods."7
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somatotypes as they relate to fitness and diet.7
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stevencloser wrote: »Lest our rush to judgment be too hasty, it is well to bear in mind: What's good for the gander may cook the goose.
That is, a diet that turns one person into Superman/woman may turn the next into the Michelin Man....
Unless you're talking about different people needing different calorie levels, nah.
Oddly enough, my own personal experience agrees with what he said a bit. Last summer I ran a keto bulk, meticulously tracking everything, and averaged 2.5 lbs./week on 2800 kcals. Of course, I ended up fat, sloppy and rather annoyed.
So, I cut back down over a couple of months using a vlcd and ended up about ten pounds above my initial starting weight, once my fat was back at passable levels. I then started my current bulk using a more "typical" 40/30/30 (p/f/c) breakdown. Currently eating between 3500-4300 per day to pull off 1.0/week. I am a bit more active now, but I still do no cardio other than walking, and I only lift 4x/week, whereas it was 8-10x/week before.
If you can explain the difference being so huge, I'd love to hear it, because I'm baffled. And yes, I do now and did then, weigh everything that goes in my mouth (I even log chewing gum when I use it ffs).0
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