Eating When Hungry vs. Sticking to a Calorie Plan
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"One thing I WILL not do is attempt to starve myself small. I am going to be using the calorie counter religiously and make sure I eat three meals a day regardless. "
I was happy to see this in your other thread. I'd like to believe that you'll be loosely-goosey about your 1500 calorie goal and lose the weight in a safe manner.0 -
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Maybe you need to date yourself for a while, just a thought.
I'm sorry you see things so negatively, and that you can't see what's so problematic in your statements, but ultimately it's your life and you can make your own choices. These commenters are only trying to help you and be a support system because that's what these forums are for--and there are plenty of people here who know what they're talking about when it comes to weight loss and nutrition, and even mental health from a weight loss standpoint, so they're not just telling you bull. You probably won't get the answers you want here. Good luck, and I hope it works out for you.1 -
personally I do better when i eat at regular intervals, then i'm never hungry & wont over
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RickyCoogin wrote: »The notion of eating when hungry sounds like it makes sense to me. However, I love to cook and eat, so I figured it would be better if I stuck to a calorie plan (1500-1800 day, for a start) and ate regularly even when not really that hungry. I figure the idea is to get yourself used to what you're going to do long-term.
Does this sound right?
Eat the calories MFP tells you to lose no more than 2 lbs a week and you will lose weight in a healthy way.
Hunger cues are not reliable for many of us. The numbers of your calorie goal are fairly reliable way to get you enough food and not too much.
I know the thread has moved on to other aspects like dating and body/mental issues.
Work on your mental issues so you can accept yourself and really move on to dating. This is a bigger hurdle than your outer appearance frankly for future relationships.1 -
This thread makes me sad. It's bad enough that you are judging yourself so harshly, but then you are also judging anyone who may see redeeming qualities in you, and snubbing them as being unworthy of your time and attention. Very paradoxical.7
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I have dated guys of all shapes, sizes, and aesthetic variations. His personality is what makes the difference. Guys that are ugly on the inside become less attractive over time. When he is an amazing person, he is instantly more attractive. I'd much rather be with someone who can challenge me intellectually, is loyal and trusting, and cares about himself and the world around him, than someone who looks good, but is only worried about how he looks and how others perceive him.11
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I have dated guys of all shapes, sizes, and aesthetic variations. His personality is what makes the difference. Guys that are ugly on the inside become less attractive over time. When he is an amazing person, he is instantly more attractive. I'd much rather be with someone who can challenge me intellectually, is loyal and trusting, and cares about himself and the world around him, than someone who looks good, but is only worried about how he looks and how others perceive him.
Looking at it only from the incredibly shallow aspect of looks/aesthetics, I can't tell you how many smokin' hot women I've seen with guys that made me wonder "How the hell did she end up with HIM???". But they do. I've seen plenty of guys who weren't movie star material with absolutely beautiful women. One of my good friends is a short, stumpy bald guy and he's married to one of the most absolutely beautiful women I've ever met. But then again, he has a great sense of humor, a lot of self-confidence and is a good guy through and through.
I know guys who've lost pounds and exercised thinking that looking hot would get them women. Guess what? Now they're lean and yoked and still don't have women. Because they're such douches that as soon as a woman meets them and discovers their personality, they turn and run the other way as fast as they can. Looks might matter, but they only matter so much.14 -
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RickyCoogin wrote: »The notion of eating when hungry sounds like it makes sense to me. However, I love to cook and eat, so I figured it would be better if I stuck to a calorie plan (1500-1800 day, for a start) and ate regularly even when not really that hungry. I figure the idea is to get yourself used to what you're going to do long-term.
Does this sound right?
You can do both. Eat when hungry, but be conscious of how much you eat. Six small meals can give you the same number of calories as three larger meals.1 -
RickyCoogin wrote: »I really, really, really wish people would stop trying to convince me that looks don't matter. Even if they don't matter to you, they do to me.
I never said looks were all I cared about, nor that I would be happy dating "someone who looks good, but is only worried about how [she] looks and how others perceive [her]." I don't know why people keep coming up with these slanted comparisons, i.e., "I'd rather date a guy who was sweet and kind but overweight rather than a really hot guy who beats me up and cheats on me with diseased women."
I don't mean to lash out at you, nutmeg - you're not the first person to say this. I just can't believe people will go to such lengths to hold onto the fact that Looks Don't Matter. Or that they only matter to mean, shallow people who ONLY care about looks.
You're completely missing my point. But I'm over trying to explain it. Best of luck.nutmegoreo wrote: »I have dated guys of all shapes, sizes, and aesthetic variations. His personality is what makes the difference. Guys that are ugly on the inside become less attractive over time. When he is an amazing person, he is instantly more attractive. I'd much rather be with someone who can challenge me intellectually, is loyal and trusting, and cares about himself and the world around him, than someone who looks good, but is only worried about how he looks and how others perceive him.
Looking at it only from the incredibly shallow aspect of looks/aesthetics, I can't tell you how many smokin' hot women I've seen with guys that made me wonder "How the hell did she end up with HIM???". But they do. I've seen plenty of guys who weren't movie star material with absolutely beautiful women. One of my good friends is a short, stumpy bald guy and he's married to one of the most absolutely beautiful women I've ever met. But then again, he has a great sense of humor, a lot of self-confidence and is a good guy through and through.
I know guys who've lost pounds and exercised thinking that looking hot would get them women. Guess what? Now they're lean and yoked and still don't have women. Because they're such douches that as soon as a woman meets them and discovers their personality, they turn and run the other way as fast as they can. Looks might matter, but they only matter so much.
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Of course looks matter! I couldn't be be with someone who i wasn't physically attracted to. But in the end, if you have a crappy personality it will be hard to hang on to a decent woman. Yes, there are people out there who are just happy that someone, anyone wants to be in a relationship with them, but it doesn't take long to figure this out.
There are physically gorgeous people out there with ugly personalities, and this eventually translates to their outer selves. I've met some stunning men in my time, but if they're ugly on the inside they will eventually look ugly on the outside to me.3 -
Did it ever occur to you that your BDD is shaping how you see the world and that for the vast majority us, only a tiny fraction (if any) of our self worth is derived from our physical appearance? The degree to which your self worth seems to be tied up in physical appearance is beyond the scope of normal and falls into the category of disordered thinking. A good therapist or psychiatrist will help you unravel that.
That said, even a good therapist won't be able help you if you're unwilling to accept their advice or, at the very least, consider an alternate point of view - which is exactly what you refusing to do in this thread. Until you're willing to challenge your own paradigms and actually address the root cause of your disordered thinking, no amount of weight loss will make you more attractive. The choice is yours.4 -
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What it boils down to is if you are not happy with yourself no woman will be happy with you either. Mostly because they know that you will not believe them when they say how much they are attracted to you, or how lovable you are etc... Yeah, there are women who don't like bald men, fat men, short men, skinny men, poor men etc... but there are also a lot of women who are not using those kinds of things as criteria which a man must meet.
If you can't find some means of making "you" the kind of person YOU like, then this struggle will never end. So the question is only how can YOU make you a person you like? Or are at least comfortable with? What would help you be comfortable in your own skin? You can't change everything you would want to change over night, but you can change those things through consistent work and progress. If the hair is a huge point of stress and you want to get some kind of hair replacement there is nothing wrong with that. Hell, some women lose their hair on their heads and grow it on their face. So some of these problems are sprinkled on both sides.
So my question for you is what are you going to work on first and how? What is your plan? Or are you still getting your ideas together?3 -
Also, would you want to date someone that had your attitude? If you dont like spending time with you, then no one else will either.7
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Most guys i know would love to hear the comments in your last paragraph! And trust me, you will not attract the women who prefer the football player or bouncer type2
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Please look into other types of therapy besides what you found didn't work for you in the past. There are many, many types and I know you know you need some outside guidance.
I am very sorry you are so miserable. Please get help. You seem to have a lot to offer but only after you take care of you.
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Yes -that ok idea. But calories too high for fat loss, unless you workout a lot or be a runner to burn up, the excess up.0
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If you were really short and scrawny, you'd do just about anything to be big and tall. I'm 5"8 and have always felt like a big ol heifer next to short petite women, I've always wanted to be short and slight. But obviously this isn't in the cards for me, so I've learnt to accept the things i can not change and try and focus on the positive things instead of dwelling on the negative.3
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Two pieces of advice - do with them what you will:
Start living in the moment. Figure out your calories for 2 lbs a week and each week you'll see your loses and gain more confidence in the process. I don't understand not wanting to work out to preserve muscle mass, but think about reconsidering it. Keeping to a routine - food shopping, preparing meals, exercising - will also get you out of your own head and help to stop the negative thoughts.
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OP 1) I'm female, 5-7" and 51 years old, I lose at 2000 calories a day 2) I've lost 75#, twice and wouldn't recommend that. Don't just white knuckle and speed through this -- take some time to learn great habits along the way 3) photoshop. Just kidding.2
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Your head space makes you incredibly judgemental not only of yourself but others as well. You depise the genetic hand you have been dealt and as you have said in your other post you are resentful and resistent of these differences and they are percieved to be flaws.
Fair enough you have physical preferences for women but you also seek to avoid/control their thoughts about you ie: You would cringe/be triggered if they mention that your height appeals to them and God forbid they tell you that they feel safe with you because of your height or that they love your face including your baldness.
Your toxic relationship with yourself has no doubt poisoned every human interaction you have ever had and I'm not surprised you are alone nor been willing to acknowledge that you alone have made not progress with this disorded thinking. No wonder too that you have not continued seeking treatment for these thought patterns, anyone disagreeing with you is summarily wrong/doesn't understand you and that opinion is therefore discarded. Right now you can blame all your isolation and focus all your rage and despair on these percieved physical imperfections.
You are free to judge yourself harshly and in any manner that you choose but I find it offensive that you categorize ALL tall, balding men so harshly simply because you are wrong. How do I know this. I am married to one of those men and my Son is another and they are kind, honourable, appealing and successful people, so how about you lay off generalizing, YOU think this way and as you have already said your thinking is disordered.
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In fairness to the OP, I was watching A Series of Unfortunate Events on Netflix tonight and in it there was a minor character who was tall and bald, who was referred to by another character as an oaf. So the stereotype exists to a certain extent.
OP also admits to having BDD.
Can't leave it though without saying that, were I a man, I'd want to be tall and broad shouldered.0
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