Greek Yogurt on a bulk
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andyluvv
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I'd like to know stories here - I've been having Fage 0% 500g tub every night before bed. I do this for the casein and for the extra protein it provides. Does anyone know if there are any issues doing this? Would it help with bulking and building muscle? When I don't have fage, I'll have Quark or Cottage cheese.
I've noticed some good improvement but not sure if it's associated and was wondering about other people's experiences.
I've noticed some good improvement but not sure if it's associated and was wondering about other people's experiences.
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Calorie surplus, adequate protein (doesn't sound like this is a problem) and progressive overload weight training are needed to build muscle.1
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Exact same principles apply (hypertrophy *is* building muscle). The only difference for strength vs. hypertrophy would be your training methodology.
As to the greek yogurt, it's no different than eating any other food with equivalent calories and protein. You need both those things so it certainly doesn't hurt anything, but there's nothing magical (or disastrous) about it compared to any other foods.2 -
Exact same principles apply (hypertrophy *is* building muscle). The only difference for strength vs. hypertrophy would be your training methodology.
As to the greek yogurt, it's no different than eating any other food with equivalent calories and protein. You need both those things so it certainly doesn't hurt anything, but there's nothing magical (or disastrous) about it compared to any other foods.
And to add, hypertrophy can occur with a strength program. Essentially, total volume is what matters and generally that can occur in the range of 25 to 60 reps (+/- a few reps).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_z0vLxQHmo4 -
I don't understand what this has to do with greek yogurt.2
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Only if you are lactose intolerant2 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.2 -
no- you're answer actually seemed far more relevant to the meat of the question.
Ultimately greek yogurt is kind of irrelevant IMHO LOL
Sorry- I should have been more clear!0 -
Only if you are lactose intolerant
Or puts you in a surplus higher than you like. Personally, I rather waste some calories on ice cream and other stuff, than a whole tub of greek yogurt. But I also find it very easy to address my protein goals.
I'm going to start mixing halo top with talenti I think and see what that does for me. Calories + protein YAY!2 -
what is going to matter is surplus, training, and hitting macros and micros ....1
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That's a lot of money on yogurt.
Like already said training & calorie surplus is going to matter more, than going overboard on protein.1 -
500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?0
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sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.2 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.
I usually use quark/yogurt or fat free cream fraiche.
It's actually about £1.50 a pack, so hardly a break in the bank. I use those sources for the casein which has a proven slow release into the body. I actually bought some casein last night so that will help decrease consumption.
The only thing to get around now is that I actually enjoy the creaminess of a nice pot of yogurt
Drinking it is just not the same lol
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.
I usually use quark/yogurt or fat free cream fraiche.
It's actually about £1.50 a pack, so hardly a break in the bank. I use those sources for the casein which has a proven slow release into the body. I actually bought some casein last night so that will help decrease consumption.
The only thing to get around now is that I actually enjoy the creaminess of a nice pot of yogurt
Drinking it is just not the same lol
If your casein is of a good flavor, mix it with minimal water to a pudding like consistency, add some nuts or whatever to it and freeze it, stirring/breaking it up ever so often. Ends up being likeva frozen "fudge" due to how casein behaves. My favorite is 60g chocolate cas, 30g peanut butter cas, an ounce of cut up nuts, and about 100g of berries.2 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.
I usually use quark/yogurt or fat free cream fraiche.
It's actually about £1.50 a pack, so hardly a break in the bank. I use those sources for the casein which has a proven slow release into the body. I actually bought some casein last night so that will help decrease consumption.
The only thing to get around now is that I actually enjoy the creaminess of a nice pot of yogurt
Drinking it is just not the same lol
If your casein is of a good flavor, mix it with minimal water to a pudding like consistency, add some nuts or whatever to it and freeze it, stirring/breaking it up ever so often. Ends up being likeva frozen "fudge" due to how casein behaves. My favorite is 60g chocolate cas, 30g peanut butter cas, an ounce of cut up nuts, and about 100g of berries.
that sounds like something to try- I have casein at home- and I prefer whey- but I haven't tried that. I'm pretty simplistic with my protein combinations.0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.
I usually use quark/yogurt or fat free cream fraiche.
It's actually about £1.50 a pack, so hardly a break in the bank. I use those sources for the casein which has a proven slow release into the body. I actually bought some casein last night so that will help decrease consumption.
The only thing to get around now is that I actually enjoy the creaminess of a nice pot of yogurt
Drinking it is just not the same lol
If your casein is of a good flavor, mix it with minimal water to a pudding like consistency, add some nuts or whatever to it and freeze it, stirring/breaking it up ever so often. Ends up being likeva frozen "fudge" due to how casein behaves. My favorite is 60g chocolate cas, 30g peanut butter cas, an ounce of cut up nuts, and about 100g of berries.
That sounds a bit heavy but might give it a try!0 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Gallowmere1984 wrote: »sarabushby wrote: »500g of Fage is a lot of protein in one hit. I remember hearing that we can typically only absorb a 20g portion of protein at any one time, the rest going to waste. Is that "bro-science" or should OP spread out his Fage consumption more evenly throughout the day?
All of it gets used in some form, barring any malabsorption issues. Excess that cannot be utilized for MPS or other amino dependant processes will end up oxidized and used as an energy source.
There is also no hard and fast amount, as rates of MPS are highly dependent upon several factors, most of them hormone related. It varies a lot from person to person and time to time. It's essentially impossible to pin down for the individual.
I usually use quark/yogurt or fat free cream fraiche.
It's actually about £1.50 a pack, so hardly a break in the bank. I use those sources for the casein which has a proven slow release into the body. I actually bought some casein last night so that will help decrease consumption.
The only thing to get around now is that I actually enjoy the creaminess of a nice pot of yogurt
Drinking it is just not the same lol
If your casein is of a good flavor, mix it with minimal water to a pudding like consistency, add some nuts or whatever to it and freeze it, stirring/breaking it up ever so often. Ends up being likeva frozen "fudge" due to how casein behaves. My favorite is 60g chocolate cas, 30g peanut butter cas, an ounce of cut up nuts, and about 100g of berries.
Okay so I tried to make a casein shake with just a little bit of water. It's so so thick and satisfying it's like a dessert. It was so good I had to make it again... Greedy, I know! Lol
Thanks for the tip. I don't think I can live without casein now! Lol0
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