Best 3 lifts?
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I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 4552 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.
And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.4 -
LOL - well looks like everyone is in agreement that these are the three most important lifts. I agree that these compound lifts are the most rewarding when one considers time management.
Squat - 225lbs 2 sets at 10 reps (afraid to max out)
Deadlift - 270lbs 3 sets at 1 rep
Bench - 175 3 sets at 4 reps - for some reason I have not been getting any gains for about 2 years now
179 lbs
15.5% bf
About 4 years of bulk and cut cycles - just started another cut cycle
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oh and LOL 450lbs on the smith leg press
3 sets at 5-8 reps each.. depends on the tune in my ears 0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.
I did see that and take it from someone with experience that its not accurate. You could easily be stronger (or weaker) than that number you posted so don't let that mess with you mentally. I specifically commented on this because I used to use that and I let fake numbers get to me. People who haven't developed proper form should definitely work at a higher volume to pound in that technique. More sets and fewer reps are ideal for a seasoned lifter who has taken the time to develop all of the fundamentals.2 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.
And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.
Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.1 -
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I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.
And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.
Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.
No, i am not. I do not have the experience or qualifications of him. And i know it was accurate.
So at what weight do i nees to lifr before i can offer valid advice? Do i get any additional for things like the severe tendinitis in both my forearms and wrist? How about the arthritis building up in my shoulders? Maybe the sciatica issues i have dealt with.
Knowledge does come with experience. But being able to lift big doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. It can mean you had a good teacher of form and a solid plan. It also might mean that you did that and combine with enhancers to get you there.
So if you want to judge me, fine but do it on my knowledge, not how much i lift.3 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.10 -
Seeing as we're getting petty, I'll add that this is a forum and thus I don't believe any of you any way.
Vids or it didn't happen.
*(Squats better be below parallel, deads without straps, and benched paused. Or it's not 4realsies.)5 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Did you read that i said for fun? I know they are not accurate.
And why would my numbers matter? Knowledge isnt directly correlated with how much you lift. Look at Lyle McDonald.
Since you added to your comment i'll address that as well. Are you comparing yourself to Lyle Mcdonald? Anything physical requires much trial and error to achieve your goals. Nobody usually jumps on a compound movement and naturally has great form without hours of practice and failure. Never should you take advice from people who read a few articles and regurgitate what they read without actually experiencing it.
No, i am not. I do not have the experience or qualifications of him. And i know it was accurate.
So at what weight do i nees to lifr before i can offer valid advice? Do i get any additional for things like the severe tendinitis in both my forearms and wrist? How about the arthritis building up in my shoulders? Maybe the sciatica issues i have dealt with.
Knowledge does come with experience. But being able to lift big doesn't mean you are knowledgeable. It can mean you had a good teacher of form and a solid plan. It also might mean that you did that and combine with enhancers to get you there.
So if you want to judge me, fine but do it on my knowledge, not how much i lift.
Strength comes with experience and knowledge. Ask any power lifter out there and they will tell you how they have learned so much from their injuries that have happened over time and how they have adapted (tweaking technique, routines, weight, therapy etc). As to your injuries, I can tell that you probably practiced incorrect form and developed some bad habits. Me personally I have had my share of injuries, but I corrected them all and have zero pain in my body at the moment. Also, i believe I did judge you on your knowledge. Any beginner should spend as much time as possible learning proper technique versus jumping straight into power lifting routines, which lead to a list of injuries due to under development. Yes I am all about moving big weight, but I am more concerned about practicing proper technique over anything. I never said you cant offer advice i'm just making it clear to people that you need to take people with little experience recommendations with a grain of salt.1 -
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I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
With all due respect you can't look at someone's lifting numbers and conclude whether or not their ability to coach someone is bad, good, great, or anything. You should evaluate someone's advice on what they actually say.7 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!0 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
The person he quoted has been lifting on and off for two years and he listed maxes in sets of 10 and 15. The advice he got was to try lifting a bit heavier in a lower rep range (4-6) and it will likely allow him to get stronger at a faster pace.
It was accurate advice based on the information provided.
Tell me what it is about this advice that you think isn't good based on the information provided.
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TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
So he's doing the movement improperly because he's not stronger than he is? Or? How are you to know that he's doing it improperly based on his # s and comments here?1 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.0 -
220kg deadlifts
120kg bench press
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TresaAswegan wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
So he's doing the movement improperly because he's not stronger than he is? Or? How are you to know that he's doing it improperly based on his # s and comments here?
Ok cool no need to pry at the discussion. Thanks0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.
You are making an assumption that someone with 2 years of lifting experience doesn't know the movement. That's entirely assumption on your part since you haven't seen footage of him lifting.
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I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.
You are making an assumption that someone with 2 years of lifting experience doesn't know the movement. That's entirely assumption on your part since you haven't seen footage of him lifting.
He said 2 years with a ton of gaps so thats not 2 years and thats no time under the bar man. Yes I could be making some assumptions but you all are taking my comments the wrong way completely. So being the online coach that you are you dont agree that form trumps all?0 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
So he's doing the movement improperly because he's not stronger than he is? Or? How are you to know that he's doing it improperly based on his # s and comments here?
Ok cool no need to pry at the discussion. Thanks
Lol last I checked this was a public forum and the point is for the public to engage in discussion with others. Just like you felt the need to pry at the discussion that didn't involve you.
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I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.
You are making an assumption that someone with 2 years of lifting experience doesn't know the movement. That's entirely assumption on your part since you haven't seen footage of him lifting.
Worth noting, the person in question is 138lbs and can squat over 170x10 and deadlift 185x10, and bench 145x10.
That is absolutely NOT a beginner.
Now, you can't tell whether or not someone has good technique without seeing it, so who knows.
However IF the goal for that person is to develop 1rm strength, it's very reasonable advice to tell him to spend some time training in a lower rep range while appropriately adjusting the load, since this will have greater specificity towards the goal of 1rm strength development.3 -
TresaAswegan wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »TresaAswegan wrote: »I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
This wasn't the only poster to mention using a 1RM calculator.
Are we going to call everyone else out as well or is your beef personal?
How about you read the thread before jumping to conclusions. I called him out because he was telling a noob to start going heavier and cut down the reps. MY POINT IS WHO CARES ABOUT WEIGHT WHEN YOU STILL HAVENT LEARNED THE MOVEMENT PROPERLY!!!
So he's doing the movement improperly because he's not stronger than he is? Or? How are you to know that he's doing it improperly based on his # s and comments here?
Ok cool no need to pry at the discussion. Thanks
Lol last I checked this was a public forum and the point is for the public to engage in discussion with others. Just like you felt the need to pry at the discussion that didn't involve you.
You clearly want to argue and I don't care to argue with you at all. You're not asking anything different from the last guys posts so I don't see the need to engage with someone who is trying to make me look like the bad guy lol.0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.
You are making an assumption that someone with 2 years of lifting experience doesn't know the movement. That's entirely assumption on your part since you haven't seen footage of him lifting.
He said 2 years with a ton of gaps so thats not 2 years and thats no time under the bar man. Yes I could be making some assumptions but you all are taking my comments the wrong way completely. So being the online coach that you are you dont agree that form trumps all?
I agree that in training you should generally not use poor technique but this is a strawman argument because you are making assumptions about the skill level of the lifter. Nobody said that he should use poor technique, you made the assumption that his technique is insufficient or that he is somehow at risk by adding weight to the bar and training in a lower rep range.
His strength to weight ratio suggests he is absolutely not a beginner.
As it pertains to program design the advice he was given is solid and I would tell him the same thing.8 -
Squat's 200lb
Deadlift is 295lb
Bench is 185lbs0 -
I don't test my 1RM for another 3 weeks, but here is what I currently do for 6 reps, at 3 sets; and for fun, I did a 1RM calculator). I am 178lbs.
DL/Squat - 235lbs (Est 1RM 275)
Bench - 155lb (Est 1RM 185)
Following: Bigger Leaner Stronger. I am in week 5. With very little/inconsistent heavy lifting prior. I did 4 weeks of 5/3/1 until lift got in the way.
Not to burst your bubble but the strength calculator is not that accurate and you cant base your 1rm off of that. You should get your numbers way up before you start offering your coaching on peoples routines.
Bench - 325lb
Squat - 425
DL - 455
Squat - 525
Deads - 600
Bench - 375
Dude, you should get your numbers way up before you throw shade at other people for their numbers.
Listen, I never threw the guy shade for his numbers ok? I'm not one to say oh you're weak so don't speak. That type of mentality is such a waste. I was telling him that if you're a beginner you shouldn't jump straight into powerlifting routines if you don't even have the basics down. Also, it seems like you are a bit hypocritical by sying dont throw someone shade about their numbers then say I should get mine up. Great job you're strong and you also have been lifting for 10 more years than I have lol.
Yes, you did. You told him he needs to be stronger before he offers advice on programming.
The root of my comment was him telling a beginner to go heavier and drop the reps before they learn the movement. You are correct I definitely did come off wrong and didn't mean it like that. My point is don't take advice from people who haven't really accomplished much in the sport. Am I saying I have accomplished a lot? Not at all! I firmly believe in proper technique over throwing on a bunch of weight and crossing your fingers that you don't get inured. Not trying to argue with you guys and I don't take anything personally. I played football as a youth and was surrounded by a bunch of uneducated football coaches who tore up kids bodies in the gym with their barbaric ways of lifting.
You are making an assumption that someone with 2 years of lifting experience doesn't know the movement. That's entirely assumption on your part since you haven't seen footage of him lifting.
He said 2 years with a ton of gaps so thats not 2 years and thats no time under the bar man. Yes I could be making some assumptions but you all are taking my comments the wrong way completely. So being the online coach that you are you dont agree that form trumps all?
I agree that in training you should generally not use poor technique but this is a strawman argument because you are making assumptions about the skill level of the lifter.
His strength to weight ratio suggests he is absolutely not a beginner.
As it pertains to program design the advice he was given is solid and I would tell him the same thing.
You make some great points. Genetics definitely play a huge factor too so you cant just look at numbers and form an opinion.. Still think you're out of pocket when you say you'd offer the same advice when you haven't seen him lift either.0
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