Vegan/vegetarian facts that fail to address...
Vanillabeanss2
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I have been a vegan for 4 years and those time are when I gain weight. People fail to say vegan diet to make you full you need to get carbs because vegetable can't make you full. So some one like myself with low metabolism speed retains those carbs. So I switch to vegetarian which is a bit better. That's my two cents for today..
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vegetables have carbs?0
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Vegetables are carbs. Carbs don't make you fat, excess calories do.22
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I'm glad you found a way of eating that keeps you feeling full, OP, but satiety varies for everyone. Starchy carbs don't make you fat, calories do. Many vegans maintain healthy weights. There are plenty of vegan sources of protein that aren't that high in carbs too.
I personally feel best with starch in my diet, and I say this as a vegetarian. Pass the potatoes.13 -
thisAlatariel75 wrote: »Vegetables are carbs. Carbs don't make you fat, excess calories do.
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If you gain weight when you're vegan, it's because you're consuming more calories during those periods.
It sounds like you may have some challenges planning your meals as a vegan. I successfully lost over 40 pounds while maintaining veganism -- it comes down to calories, just like it does for non-vegans. If vegetables aren't filling for you, I would suggest adding more protein or fat to your diet if you find that adding carbohydrates results in you consuming too many calories. But as others have pointed out, vegetables themselves are carbohydrates so it seems like learning a bit more about nutrition might help you create a diet that meets your needs.8 -
You eat the vegetables with rice and those heavy carbs do be fulloSummerRaeo wrote: »vegetables have carbs?
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The carbs are like rice and flour that pair with vegetable to help us remain full for a longer period of time. Thank youAlatariel75 wrote: »Vegetables are carbs. Carbs don't make you fat, excess calories do.
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janejellyroll wrote: »If you gain weight when you're vegan, it's because you're consuming more calories during those periods.
It sounds like you may have some challenges planning your meals as a vegan. I successfully lost over 40 pounds while maintaining veganism -- it comes down to calories, just like it does for non-vegans. If vegetables aren't filling for you, I would suggest adding more protein or fat to your diet if you find that adding carbohydrates results in you consuming too many calories. But as others have pointed out, vegetables themselves are carbohydrates so it seems like learning a bit more about nutrition might help you create a diet that meets your needs.
At least someone with sense reply. That's all I am saying I was eating vegetable and rice or pasta thinking it will help. It makes me either maintain or gain. No weight lost0 -
Its all about the calories and knowing you body. Im vegan and I realised that I cant eat carbs like pasta and rice at night. I enjoy them at lunch and then I eat something light for dinner.
Maybe you are overdoing the pasta and rice and eating more calories then you should.3 -
marblessed wrote: »I have been a vegan for 4 years and those time are when I gain weight. People fail to say vegan diet to make you full you need to get carbs because vegetable can't make you full. So some one like myself with low metabolism speed retains those carbs. So I switch to vegetarian which is a bit better. That's my two cents for today..
Did you get your metabolism tested to determine that it's low? If so, I'd speak with your doctor/dietitian about the best diet for you.5 -
Maxematics wrote: »marblessed wrote: »I have been a vegan for 4 years and those time are when I gain weight. People fail to say vegan diet to make you full you need to get carbs because vegetable can't make you full. So some one like myself with low metabolism speed retains those carbs. So I switch to vegetarian which is a bit better. That's my two cents for today..
Did you get your metabolism tested to determine that it's low? If so, I'd speak with your doctor/dietitian about the best diet for you.
Yes, definitely get your thyroid tested. If it is under-functioning (Hypothyroid) medication can make a huge difference. It won't make you lose weight by itself but it will level the playing field.
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If you want to do the vegan/vegetarian thing because of your religious beliefs or something, that's your business, but meat is good for you. It is a balance source of protein and it also puts fat into your diet, which can help to maintain hunger. If you are going to choose not to eat meat then you need to find a way to replace those things with the foods that you are willing to eat.3
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Vegetables have carbs. I'm confused by the original post.6
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Look at Plant based Whole Foods. All plants have protein, fats, and carbs. Are you eating a lot of processed foods? Processed foods, have extra calories, salt and sugar. Are you drinking enough water? Some suggestions are to research, Chef AJ, Engine 2 Diet, Dr. Greager, Dr. Garth Davis and many more. Their focus is using plants to improve health, but weight loss is a great side effect.1
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I spent three years living in vegetarian yoga communities and had lots of vegan friends, who were all at healthy weights. They made legumes the backbone of their diet and had active lifestyles.2
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rockymtdeb wrote: »Look at Plant based Whole Foods. All plants have protein, fats, and carbs. Are you eating a lot of processed foods? Processed foods, have extra calories, salt and sugar. Are you drinking enough water? Some suggestions are to research, Chef AJ, Engine 2 Diet, Dr. Greager, Dr. Garth Davis and many more. Their focus is using plants to improve health, but weight loss is a great side effect.
Unless you're referring to trace amounts, it's just not true that all plants contain protein and fat.3 -
marblessed wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »If you gain weight when you're vegan, it's because you're consuming more calories during those periods.
It sounds like you may have some challenges planning your meals as a vegan. I successfully lost over 40 pounds while maintaining veganism -- it comes down to calories, just like it does for non-vegans. If vegetables aren't filling for you, I would suggest adding more protein or fat to your diet if you find that adding carbohydrates results in you consuming too many calories. But as others have pointed out, vegetables themselves are carbohydrates so it seems like learning a bit more about nutrition might help you create a diet that meets your needs.
At least someone with sense reply. That's all I am saying I was eating vegetable and rice or pasta thinking it will help. It makes me either maintain or gain. No weight lost
Anyone who is trying to fill up on rice or pasta is going to struggle to lose weight. You can eat those foods in a deficit, but they're typically too calorie-dense to fill up on unless you also happen to be very active. Again, I think this is less of an issue with veganism (rice and pasta are completely optional for vegans, I rarely ate them when I was losing weight and I felt fine) than with understanding weight loss and how to best eat for satiety. If vegetables don't fill you up, there are steps you can take to address that without just eating lots of pasta or rice.5 -
marblessed wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »If you gain weight when you're vegan, it's because you're consuming more calories during those periods.
It sounds like you may have some challenges planning your meals as a vegan. I successfully lost over 40 pounds while maintaining veganism -- it comes down to calories, just like it does for non-vegans. If vegetables aren't filling for you, I would suggest adding more protein or fat to your diet if you find that adding carbohydrates results in you consuming too many calories. But as others have pointed out, vegetables themselves are carbohydrates so it seems like learning a bit more about nutrition might help you create a diet that meets your needs.
At least someone with sense reply. That's all I am saying I was eating vegetable and rice or pasta thinking it will help. It makes me either maintain or gain. No weight lost
Rice and pasta do not put weight on you. Over eating them will but so will over eating anything that puts you over your calories burnt.
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littlechiaseed wrote: »Vegetables have carbs. I'm confused by the original post.
Me too. I do not understand what the OP is trying to say...1 -
I'm vegetarian and cook mostly vegan recipes (but I still eat products containing eggs, as well as snacking on string cheese; I just don't cook much with them myself). I've lost 30 lbs since Oct 30th and I have been eating pasta or rice noodles at least 4 times a week since then. Long story short, I am trying to work my way through the 1,000 Vegan Recipes cookbook sequentially, one recipe per week, and I was in the pasta section when I started MFP. Agreeing with everyone saying it's carbs, not calories.
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No. Pasta etc. may be higher on the glycemic index, and often end up in dishes with a higher glycemic load... Vegetables typically have more water and fiber. Both are primarily carbs.marblessed wrote: »
The carbs are like rice and flour that pair with vegetable to help us remain full for a longer period of time. Thank youAlatariel75 wrote: »Vegetables are carbs. Carbs don't make you fat, excess calories do.
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A friend of mine was vegetarian and 100 pounds overweight. She worked hard, began exercising more, and lost the weight, still vegetarian. It's all in how much you eat, not what you eat.4
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If pasta is your source of carbs, and you eat them in excess then I seriously doubt you would lose weight. Try eating better sources of carbs such as bananas, dates, potatoes, butternut and other root vegetables. Rice isn't bad for you but vegetable carbs are far more nutritious and still provide you with wholesome carbs. Pasta and rice is basically only carbs.0
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jordan_bowden wrote: »If pasta is your source of carbs, and you eat them in excess then I seriously doubt you would lose weight. Try eating better sources of carbs such as bananas, dates, potatoes, butternut and other root vegetables. Rice isn't bad for you but vegetable carbs are far more nutritious and still provide you with wholesome carbs. Pasta and rice is basically only carbs.
If you eat anything in caloric excess you won't lose weight.
Pasta and rice are fine, but if you're not tracking the amounts, they can be calorically dense.
All of the other things you listed are only carbs too.
And dates instead of pasta? Really??? I can't even. Talk about a calorie bomb.5 -
jordan_bowden wrote: »If pasta is your source of carbs, and you eat them in excess then I seriously doubt you would lose weight. Try eating better sources of carbs such as bananas, dates, potatoes, butternut and other root vegetables. Rice isn't bad for you but vegetable carbs are far more nutritious and still provide you with wholesome carbs. Pasta and rice is basically only carbs.
Yep, they are. And I've been eating them multiple times per week. And as of today? Down 33 lbs. Haven't had a single banana. Did make apple date crisps one week, in which each serving had something like 1.3 dates (8 dates spread out in 6 single serve ramekins). Have had a few potatoes, but nowhere near as often as the pasta/noodles. I think the only root vegetables I've had have been radishes, every 2-3 weeks or so. Oh, I've had plenty of other vegetables. And fruits. But nothing wrong with 'basically only carbs' if you measure them properly.4 -
Proteinjordan_bowden wrote: »Pasta and rice is basically only carbs.
Fibre
Manganese
Selenium
Iron
Vit B1
Folate
I really could go on.
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janejellyroll wrote: »rockymtdeb wrote: »Look at Plant based Whole Foods. All plants have protein, fats, and carbs. Are you eating a lot of processed foods? Processed foods, have extra calories, salt and sugar. Are you drinking enough water? Some suggestions are to research, Chef AJ, Engine 2 Diet, Dr. Greager, Dr. Garth Davis and many more. Their focus is using plants to improve health, but weight loss is a great side effect.
Unless you're referring to trace amounts, it's just not true that all plants contain protein and fat.
Of course they do! Why else would herbivores grow? They only eat plants and they obviously have muscle and fat....
Come on, people!
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I have been both thin and heavy on a vegan diet. It isn't plant foods that are at fault, it's the amount of food/calories or the types of food. Try sticking to whole foods with plenty of protein from beans, tofu, soy milk, seitan, tempeh, and limit the number of grain (rice, pasta, bread) servings. Eat small amounts of healthy fats like ground flax, chia seeds, avocados and nut butter, but don't overdo. Add nutritional yeast to your seasonings to boost nutrition and protein, and eat lots of veggies, including leafy greens, and you should be OK.1
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mactaffy428 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »rockymtdeb wrote: »Look at Plant based Whole Foods. All plants have protein, fats, and carbs. Are you eating a lot of processed foods? Processed foods, have extra calories, salt and sugar. Are you drinking enough water? Some suggestions are to research, Chef AJ, Engine 2 Diet, Dr. Greager, Dr. Garth Davis and many more. Their focus is using plants to improve health, but weight loss is a great side effect.
Unless you're referring to trace amounts, it's just not true that all plants contain protein and fat.
Of course they do! Why else would herbivores grow? They only eat plants and they obviously have muscle and fat....
Come on, people!
Are you being serious or are you being facetious? I can't tell. If you are serious...
I'm sorry, but dietary fat and body fat aren't the same thing. And NO; most plants only have trace amounts of proteins and fats.
One apple for example has .3 grams of protein and .2 grams of fat.
Please go out and educate yourself on this topic because humans are not herbivores and require significantly more protein and fat. You cannot argue this fact.
I'm a vegetarian and have NEVER eaten meat; but I don't pretend this is anything *other* than an ethical choice. Being vegan and eating "only plants" without legumes, nuts, seeds, fat sources, dietary supplements, etc. is certainly not optimal for health.3
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