Don't Tell Me You Can't Lose Weight With Exercise
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is timothy fishing for clients?10 -
BedsideTableKangaroo wrote: »is timothy fishing for clients?
Maybe. Would probably have to pm him to find out his secret, though.4 -
dotwilldoit wrote: »Wtf is zwift
Internet shows it's some kind of indoor cycling.2 -
I always heard that too and its BS, I lost all the weight by training 5 times a week....2
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »I just want to point out that just because you didn't physically count your calories doesn't mean you weren't eating at a deficit.
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I've been counting calories and increasing my walks, in the weeks I walk the most I don't lose any weight, the weeks I dont walk 6 out of 7 nights, the more I lose, it's dropping off rapidly0
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dotwilldoit wrote: »Wtf is zwift
Just a glance at the site - you cycle on an indoor bike while watching pretend you cycle through pretend outside.4 -
dotwilldoit wrote: »Wtf is zwift
Just a glance at the site - you cycle on an indoor bike while watching pretend you cycle through pretend outside.
Lol, why not just cycle outside and get the free vit D and fresh air?
Great for mental and physical health that way.
We find cycling a great family activity.0 -
Zwift is a good way to train indoors in inclement weather or once night falls early. I've been looking into getting it, but meanwhile, I simply use an indoor trainer and do commercial intervals.
One of the nice things with Zwift is that it connects with Strava. When I do my indoor trainer workouts, I have to manually enter them.
Cyclists know about this stuff ... but if you're not a cyclist, you probably aren't familiar with it all.
As for exercise and weight loss ... of course it works.1 -
JaydedMiss wrote: »GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »Okay.
I think you miss the point other people make that you think you're arguing against, but whatever.
I wouldn't lose any weight without exercise either. That doesn't mean my diet isn't my first consideration. If I were overeating, I could blow all my exercise out of the water with 10 minutes, a spoon, a jar of peanut butter, and some existential angst.
Of course you can lose weight without exercising but it's much harder to lose weight just exercising
Many disabled people lose weight by calorie restriction only
I've lost lots weight several times on vlcd meal replacements no exercise
Which is why you keep putting it back on id imagine.
People need to stop complicating it...YES exercise helps make a defecit YES its possible to lose with just exercise but its still more benefical to do a calorie defecit. More so a defecit and exercise. Its simple i feel like everyones argueing the same point just worded different. No one can honestly think any of thats not true?
Nope I've kept most of it off actually I just was advised to stop as had 11 blood. transfusions and I need more varied foods
You do not need to exercise to lose weight many disabled people lose weight0 -
What is Zwift and how do you cook it?7
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Zwift is a good way to train indoors in inclement weather or once night falls early. I've been looking into getting it, but meanwhile, I simply use an indoor trainer and do commercial intervals.
One of the nice things with Zwift is that it connects with Strava. When I do my indoor trainer workouts, I have to manually enter them.
Cyclists know about this stuff ... but if you're not a cyclist, you probably aren't familiar with it all.
As for exercise and weight loss ... of course it works.
Which indoor trainer do you like?0 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I have seen it stated here a LOT that exercise has little to do with weight loss. I have always disagreed with that idea as any activity which increases calorie burn will assist in weight loss.
Exercise is always helpful but its effects are limited when it comes to fat loss.
I would love to see some further reading on this! Please mention me by name when you post the link!1 -
deviousme7 wrote: »I've been counting calories and increasing my walks, in the weeks I walk the most I don't lose any weight, the weeks I dont walk 6 out of 7 nights, the more I lose, it's dropping off rapidly
Weight loss doesn't matter with walks. It's keeping the damn dogs from getting bored. I've got 2 Westies and if they don't get walked, they are a pain in the butt.2 -
I am still standing by my comment that exercise helps create that deficit. Your daily diet may not have you in a deficit until you add in 30 minutes or more of exercise a day. Exercise and create a deficit without needing to eat less, don't exercise and eat at maintenance or possibly above and have no deficit. I don't even understand how this is even debatable. Not only does exercise help create a deficit, it helps with getting some amount of lean muscle mass which in turn creates a greater burn in general, even if you aren't gaining that lean mass you are using the lean mass you already have. It requires more energy to use muscle than it does to carry around extra body fat which is just dead weight.4
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I have seen it stated here a LOT that exercise has little to do with weight loss. I have always disagreed with that idea as any activity which increases calorie burn will assist in weight loss.
Exercise is always helpful but its effects are limited when it comes to fat loss.
I would love to see some further reading on this! Please mention me by name when you post the link!
What reading? It's basic stuff. If you keep the same diet and add exercise, you will lose via increased TDEE until you reach equilibrium. At that point, if you still need to lose more, you'd either have to increase TDEE again or decrease your calorie intake. That's the whole CICO thing people blather on about on these boards.5 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I have seen it stated here a LOT that exercise has little to do with weight loss. I have always disagreed with that idea as any activity which increases calorie burn will assist in weight loss.
Exercise is always helpful but its effects are limited when it comes to fat loss.
I would love to see some further reading on this! Please mention me by name when you post the link!
What reading? It's basic stuff. If you keep the same diet and add exercise, you will lose via increased TDEE until you reach equilibrium. At that point, if you still need to lose more, you'd either have to increase TDEE again or decrease your calorie intake. That's the whole CICO thing people blather on about on these boards.
So this is basic knowledge we are all programmed with upon birth or does it just magically come to us in a dream? You are rambling about TDEE etc... the fact remains. You have brought nothing to back up your claim. You are telling me that the effect exercise has on fat loss is limited. I am waiting for some explanatory and reliable source that brought you to the conclusion that the effect exercise has on fat loss is limited. I once weighed 200 lbs. The ONLY thing I did was walk on a daily basis and I lost 70 lbs. I did not change my diet, I did not increase my exercise etc... I went from sedentary to not. That is all. I do not believe the effect that exercise has on fat loss is "limited".2 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I have seen it stated here a LOT that exercise has little to do with weight loss. I have always disagreed with that idea as any activity which increases calorie burn will assist in weight loss.
Exercise is always helpful but its effects are limited when it comes to fat loss.
I don't think it's limited - I lost almost 60 lbs just walking every other day over 2 summers. Didn't count calories at all. Went from a size 18 to a size 8 and all I did was walk about 1/2 mile average, every other day. Granted, I'm physically disabled, and walk on crutches, so walking for me is a really strenuous workout. I guess not everyone can lose just by exercise, but there are a lot of people here who claim that you basically don't lose weight from exercise, and it's just not true.
But the bottom line is that you're taking in fewer calories than your are expending. If you ate to a level commensurate with your activity you wouldn't lose weight, and that's the point.
Once again, look around a gym or the many posts here about "I'm doing all the exercise but not losing weight"...there are any number of people who simply think because they exercise, they should lose weight...if that's the case,, people like me who are maintaining should just be withering away from all of our exercise. It ultimately still comes down to the calories coming in vs going out...if you eat to maintenance, you maintain regardless of how much exercise you're doing.
Exercise simply increases your maintenance level of calories which certainly makes it easier to establish a deficit because you can eat more than you otherwise could...but exercise is no guarantee of a deficit as evidenced by my weight maintenance with tons of cycling.6 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »I am still standing by my comment that exercise helps create that deficit. Your daily diet may not have you in a deficit until you add in 30 minutes or more of exercise a day. Exercise and create a deficit without needing to eat less, don't exercise and eat at maintenance or possibly above and have no deficit. I don't even understand how this is even debatable. Not only does exercise help create a deficit, it helps with getting some amount of lean muscle mass which in turn creates a greater burn in general, even if you aren't gaining that lean mass you are using the lean mass you already have. It requires more energy to use muscle than it does to carry around extra body fat which is just dead weight.
Exercise increases your maintenance calories which makes it easier to maintain a deficit...it doesn't default to creating a deficit...I do all of the cycling and I maintain...how is that if exercise creates a deficit?3
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