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"Supermodels don't eat''
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I ve read a few model's interview and they eat very little and train 5 times a week, they (the ones interviewed) often consider eating fish as a "treat", very often eat vegan/ plant food diet (but not exclusively as they have fish for great occasions1
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they eat but not much. guarantee 99% of the runway models do not have their periods due to such a low BMI. I have a few family members who are models and have spent whole days with them they eat around 1500-1800 a day, which is enough to maintain. If you think about it the average model is quite tall even though underweight, so they could easily maintain their weight eating 1500-1800 a day.0
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »they eat but not much. guarantee 99% of the runway models do not have their periods due to such a low BMI. I have a few family members who are models and have spent whole days with them they eat around 1500-1800 a day, which is enough to maintain. If you think about it the average model is quite tall even though underweight, so they could easily maintain their weight eating 1500-1800 a day.
Athletes can also lose their periods even with a healthy BMI due to low body fat. At the peak of my varsity running, I once went a whole year between periods. I was a healthy weight at 112lbs and 5'1" tall which is a BMI of 21... 18 is the lowest healthy range BMI.1 -
My best friend in college worked part - time as a model for bridal shows. She was naturally very slender, and ate just fine. She said that she couldn't do fashion because her hips were too big for that, and she was unwilling to shave herself or engage in other disordered eating, unlike many of the young women she modeled with.
Most modeling requires a very specific body type and measurements so that you fit garments with minimal pinning. Problems arise because the standard modeling size is natural and sustainable to a very tiny percentage of women, but the career is attractive to many more. Just like athletes, dedicated models may work very hard to keep their bodies within the demands of the industry, and that leads to many struggling with disordered eating, especially since the stock sizes used are on the extreme end of thin (where body shape is most predictable).
But not all very thin models are that way from starving themselves. Some people are just really slender. I have 3 female cousins ( and 3 male cousins) with that physique, and I assure you they eat, and eat well.6 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »they eat but not much. guarantee 99% of the runway models do not have their periods due to such a low BMI. I have a few family members who are models and have spent whole days with them they eat around 1500-1800 a day, which is enough to maintain. If you think about it the average model is quite tall even though underweight, so they could easily maintain their weight eating 1500-1800 a day.
Athletes can also lose their periods even with a healthy BMI due to low body fat. At the peak of my varsity running, I once went a whole year between periods. I was a healthy weight at 112lbs and 5'1" tall which is a BMI of 21... 18 is the lowest healthy range BMI.
Yes I know this but most models do not have it due to low BF as well.0 -
My best friend in college worked part - time as a model for bridal shows. She was naturally very slender, and ate just fine. She said that she couldn't do fashion because her hips were too big for that, and she was unwilling to shave herself or engage in other disordered eating, unlike many of the young women she modeled with.
Most modeling requires a very specific body type and measurements so that you fit garments with minimal pinning. Problems arise because the standard modeling size is natural and sustainable to a very tiny percentage of women, but the career is attractive to many more. Just like athletes, dedicated models may work very hard to keep their bodies within the demands of the industry, and that leads to many struggling with disordered eating, especially since the stock sizes used are on the extreme end of thin (where body shape is most predictable).
But not all very thin models are that way from starving themselves. Some people are just really slender. I have 3 female cousins ( and 3 male cousins) with that physique, and I assure you they eat, and eat well.
Yes, there is no reason models have to eat a starvation level. They can eat very well. All they need to do is maintain and eat at maintenance. (Which isn't that low for someone so tall)0 -
It depends on the modeling agency and the regional culture. Runway models, (notoriously from Russia, incidentally) are historically known for unhealthy eating habits. Rumors surrounding the unsound regimes of Victoria's Secret models are more dubious in my opinion. Those girls don't look unhealthy/emaciated to me, and many of them go on to have children. My guess is that VS is actually on the healthier end of the high-profile modeling spectrum.3
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Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »they eat but not much. guarantee 99% of the runway models do not have their periods due to such a low BMI. I have a few family members who are models and have spent whole days with them they eat around 1500-1800 a day, which is enough to maintain. If you think about it the average model is quite tall even though underweight, so they could easily maintain their weight eating 1500-1800 a day.
Athletes can also lose their periods even with a healthy BMI due to low body fat. At the peak of my varsity running, I once went a whole year between periods. I was a healthy weight at 112lbs and 5'1" tall which is a BMI of 21... 18 is the lowest healthy range BMI.
Yes I know this but most models do not have it due to low BF as well.
I don't know if we can say that most models who lose their period do so only due to low BMI. Many of them also over exercise, resulting in low body fat. So it's probably a combination of the two...as many models are at a BMI of 18... which would be enough to have a period if it weren't for over exercising.0 -
jamocha101 wrote: »It depends on the modeling agency and the regional culture. Runway models, (notoriously from Russia, incidentally) are historically known for unhealthy eating habits. Rumors surrounding the unsound regimes of Victoria's Secret models are more dubious in my opinion. Those girls don't look unhealthy/emaciated to me, and many of them go on to have children. My guess is that VS is actually on the healthier end of the high-profile modeling spectrum.
I agree with your comments on VS models. Many runway and high fashion models tend to appear underweight and unhealthy, but VS models look like they fall within the healthy range. They don't want their models to look sick and emaciated. They want them to fill out the lingerie and look fit and sexy. I'm sure they are very strict with their exercise and diet, and certainly some of them do have eating disorders due to the pressure of competition, but in general as a group, those women aren't unhealthy or unnatural looking. I had a similar body at that age, and I've never had an ED. Slim, athletic bodies just happen to run in my family. (I'm old now, but I'm still slim and fit. Maybe just not so hot now.
) Healthy, thin people do exist in the world; and not everybody harms themselves to get that way. 6 -
jamocha101 wrote: »It depends on the modeling agency and the regional culture. Runway models, (notoriously from Russia, incidentally) are historically known for unhealthy eating habits. Rumors surrounding the unsound regimes of Victoria's Secret models are more dubious in my opinion. Those girls don't look unhealthy/emaciated to me, and many of them go on to have children. My guess is that VS is actually on the healthier end of the high-profile modeling spectrum.
I agree with your comments on VS models. Many runway and high fashion models tend to appear underweight and unhealthy, but VS models look like they fall within the healthy range. They don't want their models to look sick and emaciated. They want them to fill out the lingerie and look fit and sexy. I'm sure they are very strict with their exercise and diet, and certainly some of them do have eating disorders due to the pressure of competition, but in general as a group, those women aren't unhealthy or unnatural looking. I had a similar body at that age, and I've never had an ED. Slim, athletic bodies just happen to run in my family. (I'm old now, but I'm still slim and fit. Maybe just not so hot now. ) Healthy, thin people do exist in the world; and not everybody harms themselves to get that way.
Pretty much this. Most VS/Sports Illustrated/commercial/catalogue/"celebrity" models (the Hadids etc.) tend to be low-normal BMI/body fat percentage in appearance with some curves and a little muscle. Those girls are likely eating reasonable diets with reasonable exercise and to me they look slim but certainly not even close to emaciated or even technically underweight in most cases. I'm sure some of them resort to unhealthy means but I think most people would agree that their (un-photoshopped) bodies are attainable without resorting to unhealthy behaviors.
However, the very young Eastern European runway girls who need to be like 32-24-33 if they want to book shows, not so much. From the outside it seems fairly obvious that most of those girls are not eating enough to maintain health. There are a few that are probably just young and active enough to maintain 110 lbs on a 5'11" frame, but I'm betting the vast majority have to rely on very small portions, ED-behaviors, or excessive exercise (or a combo) to maintain that way. Thighs exactly the width of one's knees all the way up, visible ribcage emanating from the sternum, razor-sharp hipbones and collarbones (particularly when you can see the end of bone at the shoulder) and sunken cheeks, those kind of things are the signs to me that a body is underweight and that a woman is not eating (for whatever reason) and those things are visible on nearly every high-fashion runway.3 -
I've seen some pretty thin runway models that no I don't think they eat enough. I think they either do drugs to help them stay thin or just simply don't eat. I was anorexic in the past and didn't eat more than a hand full of crackers each day with water. The models in VS that are a little more thick look like they eat well but work out a lot because they have very toned bodies. I think it just depends on who it is but I do think runway models eat very little food because most of them are overall boney and look sickly as I did when I was anorexic.0
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Take Doutzen Kroes, my favourite. I've always thought she looks like a slim, fit woman.
I agree that the fashion industry has a long way to go but from my perspective it's shifting from wanting models to appear "waif-ish" to appearing more fit.
She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.1 -
perkymommy wrote: »
Take Doutzen Kroes, my favourite. I've always thought she looks like a slim, fit woman.
I agree that the fashion industry has a long way to go but from my perspective it's shifting from wanting models to appear "waif-ish" to appearing more fit.
She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Is evaluation of the face and upper body part of diagnosing anorexia?4 -
It depends on individual genetics, youth, and the kind of look desired. There are some models with super-fast metabolisms who can eat pretty much whatever they want. Most of them watch their weight, especially before being cast for a show.0
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janejellyroll wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »
Take Doutzen Kroes, my favourite. I've always thought she looks like a slim, fit woman.
I agree that the fashion industry has a long way to go but from my perspective it's shifting from wanting models to appear "waif-ish" to appearing more fit.
She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Is evaluation of the face and upper body part of diagnosing anorexia?
You certainly can't and shouldn't diagnose someone with a mental illness from a photo, but even if you could, I don't think I'm seeing what the poster above you is seeing.
She's a tiny bit pear-shaped, so is more slender on top than on bottom and doesn't have much chest, but IMO she doesn't look extremely thin (unless you're seeing the shadow of her sunglasses as a sunken cheek?) No elbows-larger-than upper-arm, no ribs showing around the sternum, no bones protruding from the shoulder, no sharp hipbones. I mean, her stomach certainly doesn't carry any fat at all, but still, this is one of the models I was talking about in my first paragraph when I said VS-type models lean towards slim/not clearly underweight especially compared to high fashion girls. Lady kinda looks like she could kick my butt up and down a yoga class and probably beat me at 10K after. I mean, she doesn't look like she's doing oly lifting or indulging in many after-workout cheesecakes or anything, but still.11 -
perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.18 -
perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
If you got rid of the weight on her thighs, she would pretty much just be skin and bones.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
This.5 -
healthypelican wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
If you got rid of the weight on her thighs, she would pretty much just be skin and bones.
In case you're not sure, those are ab muscles you're seeing in her midsection. Not rib bones. HTH.10 -
healthypelican wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
If you got rid of the weight on her thighs, she would pretty much just be skin and bones.
In case you're not sure, those are ab muscles you're seeing in her midsection. Not rib bones. HTH.healthypelican wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
If you got rid of the weight on her thighs, she would pretty much just be skin and bones.
In case you're not sure, those are ab muscles you're seeing in her midsection. Not rib bones. HTH.healthypelican wrote: »perkymommy wrote: »She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
Which just goes to show how twisted society's perception of weight/build is nowadays. Obese is the new "normal".
She's slim, with a healthy/somewhat low BF% (not anywhere near "ripped") and small boobs. I don't even consider her as overly skinny, let alone underweight or anorexic.
If you got rid of the weight on her thighs, she would pretty much just be skin and bones.
In case you're not sure, those are ab muscles you're seeing in her midsection. Not rib bones. HTH.
Ok, skin, bone and muscle.
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Haters gonna hate...3
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They must eat SOMETHING though or else they would die.3
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perkymommy wrote: »
Take Doutzen Kroes, my favourite. I've always thought she looks like a slim, fit woman.
I agree that the fashion industry has a long way to go but from my perspective it's shifting from wanting models to appear "waif-ish" to appearing more fit.
She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
I wouldn't say she's anorexic but I have yet to meet an athlete with that build. The only part of her body I'd call fit would be her legs. They look very powerful and strong. Her abs are only visible due to low BF and her upper body looks weak and frail.
She's beautiful though, but she's not my definition of fit or anorexic. To me, she's just skinny.0 -
perkymommy wrote: »
...She appears anorexic to me. You can tell by her face and all of her upper body.
I think that's just your individual perception based on what you think an anorexic person looks like. She's no where near as thin as most runway models (many of whom probably are anorexic.) I think her tiny breasts are what's throwing people off. She might be anorexic and she might not. You shouldn't automatically assume it, though.
I have basically the same upper body as she does, but add on some bigger boobs (a solid C). I think my collar bones may stick out a bit more than hers. But that just runs in my family, along with bony elbows and knees. I hope people don't look at me and label me mentally ill simply because my body is slimmer than average. But then again, I generally don't care too much about other people's hangups - I think at this point I'm too old to care what they think of my body anymore.1 -
Don't know if anyone else saw this article, but I came across it a couple days ago. Really sad. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4303058/Models-reveal-ugly-truth-fashion-industry.html1
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austinsneeze wrote: »Don't know if anyone else saw this article, but I came across it a couple days ago. Really sad. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4303058/Models-reveal-ugly-truth-fashion-industry.html
That is the daily mail though ...
I have a friend who appears anorexic. When she was 7 months pregnant she she bought her preggie clothes in the teens section because the adult clothes were still too big for her. She wears an XS and yes she eats more than I used when I was morbidly obese, which was a lot.
I used to work in the fashion industry as a photographer and it is a gross generalization that models starve themselves. Yes there are cases where this happens but to say that is the industry standard is like saying all football players use steroids to get big.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »I'd say the ladies here who eat and train don't really have what I'd call the typical runway model body/supermodel body...they have fitness bodies...which are much hotter.
Yeah, there is a big difference in the bodies of runway models vs. fitness models vs. underwear models. So naturally there will be a difference in how they eat and exercise to fit into their chosen roles.0 -
Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »they eat but not much. guarantee 99% of the runway models do not have their periods due to such a low BMI. I have a few family members who are models and have spent whole days with them they eat around 1500-1800 a day, which is enough to maintain. If you think about it the average model is quite tall even though underweight, so they could easily maintain their weight eating 1500-1800 a day.
Athletes can also lose their periods even with a healthy BMI due to low body fat. At the peak of my varsity running, I once went a whole year between periods. I was a healthy weight at 112lbs and 5'1" tall which is a BMI of 21... 18 is the lowest healthy range BMI.
Yet interestingly, even though the trend with women in Japan is to be underweight (think 16-18 BMI) they still have their periods (perhaps more irregularly). I would wager that more than 1% of models still have their cycles.1
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