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Adrenal Fatigue?
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She is a MD. I was just reading up on Adrenals. I must have Adrenal Insufficiency not Fatigue. Now I will have to ask her at my next appointment.0
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Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.2 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you.
And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?2 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »She is a MD. I was just reading up on Adrenals. I must have Adrenal Insufficiency not Fatigue. Now I will have to ask her at my next appointment.
Thank you for clarifying. Didn't mean to be pushy but a lot of people talk about their doctors and it turns out they are naturopaths who took a 6 week online course.
Never hurts to clarify both a diagnosis and treatment. My doctor (APNP who is a Certified Diabetic Specialist) is very patient with my questions.1 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?
Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.
Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there.
Edited to add: And for clarity, Mary Shomon did not author " Stop the Thyroid Madness," either.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.
He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.0 -
Why the attitude towards me? Just curious. I'm done0
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Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.
He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.
Since varying levels of thyroid function is the very hallmark of Hashimoto's, it is entirely appropriate for your medication levels to have to be adjusted accordingly.0 -
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.
And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
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Michellelynn219 wrote: »Why the attitude towards me? Just curious. I'm done
Not seeing any 'attitude,' just people trying to understand your situation and reasoning.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?
Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.
Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there.
http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm Happy NOW?0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.
He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.
Since varying levels of thyroid function is the very hallmark of Hashimoto's, it is entirely appropriate for your medication levels to have to be adjusted accordingly.
Not when he takes you up and down and puts you into SVT. I am now regulated going very slowly up not up and down. Never felt better 1 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?
Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.
Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there.
http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm Happy NOW?
Well, I wasn't unhappy to begin with.
But that site tells me everything I need to know. Mary Shomon is not a doctor, and holds no qualifications to be publishing the myriad of self-help books that she promotes and is obviously profiting from.
I'll stick with proven science and my accredited Endo.
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If it wasn't for this list of doctors I would still be feeling horrible and not being treated properly for my disease. Compound medication gave me my life back. l am glad you were not unhappy
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Michellelynn219 wrote: »
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.
And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
I was responding to part I bolded.0 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.
And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
I was responding to part I bolded.
I didn't even know about adrenal fatigue or insufficiency until I changed doctors. My new doctor did a full hormone and blood panel on me. I don't think i have Adrenal fatigue. I am pretty sure it's adrenal insufficiency. I corrected myself in one of my comments.0 -
I make this entry as a typist not someone who is able to do all the "add links and stuff you kids do". I'm not far off 70. If it matter so much that you achieve the right information for you to understand the predicament of those who have their lives compromised by poor adrenal, thyroid, pituitary function and insist it is all a figment of our imaginations, please because I can't, don't have the ability to show you, so a search for yourselves,
topic, thyroid, pituitary, adrenal axis. this will present you with more information than you can wade through in an evening. Most information comes out of the US but still most of your doctors do not use it.
You have to live with the issues to know you have to do much of the research work yourself. A professor of immunology put me on the road to recovery unfortunately I was not able to get back to see him because of the ignorance and blinkered view of the local endo, do it by the UK, NICE guidelines which do not recognise anything other than t4 deficiency and do not permit proper investigations when what he can do is borderline. Makes it a "more than my jobs worth" situation. Correct the endocrine balance, eliminate inflammation, replace digestive microbes and enzymes and you may just get somewhere.
eta, so should read do,
Also, my dentist could tell me more about my thyroid condition and that was by looking at my teeth! The shape of my bite line etc!! how's that?0 -
I make this entry as a typist not someone who is able to do all the "add links and stuff you kids do". I'm not far off 70. If it matter so much that you achieve the right information for you to understand the predicament of those who have their lives compromised by poor adrenal, thyroid, pituitary function and insist it is all a figment of our imaginations, please because I can't, don't have the ability to show you, so a search for yourselves,
topic, thyroid, pituitary, adrenal axis. this will present you with more information than you can wade through in an evening. Most information comes out of the US but still most of your doctors do not use it.
You have to live with the issues to know you have to do much of the research work yourself. A professor of immunology put me on the road to recovery unfortunately I was not able to get back to see him because of the ignorance and blinkered view of the local endo, do it by the UK, NICE guidelines which do not recognise anything other than t4 deficiency and do not permit proper investigations when what he can do is borderline. Makes it a "more than my jobs worth" situation. Correct the endocrine balance, eliminate inflammation, replace digestive microbes and enzymes and you may just get somewhere.
eta, so should read do,
Also, my dentist could tell me more about my thyroid condition and that was by looking at my teeth! The shape of my bite line etc!! how's that?
Again, complete nonsense. Support your claims with evidence. It's not my job to prove your misinformation. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.2 -
Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?Michellelynn219 wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.
You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.
And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
I was responding to part I bolded.
I didn't even know about adrenal fatigue or insufficiency until I changed doctors. My new doctor did a full hormone and blood panel on me. I don't think i have Adrenal fatigue. I am pretty sure it's adrenal insufficiency. I corrected myself in one of my comments.
Apologies if you've already explained this. Have you actually been tested for adrenal insufficiency? It's a potentially serious condition.0 -
Thank you for correcting me. I am always seeing Mary Shomon, Stop the thyroid madness on the internet and on her fb page I just assumed she wrote it. And No she does not recommend doctors. It is a patient recommended list of doctors that will prescribe Compound T4/T3 medication.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?
Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.
Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there.
Edited to add: And for clarity, Mary Shomon did not author " Stop the Thyroid Madness," either.
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Michellelynn219 wrote: »
Thank you for correcting me. I am always seeing Mary Shomon, Stop the thyroid madness on the internet and on her fb page I just assumed she wrote it. And No she does not recommend doctors. It is a patient recommended list of doctors that will prescribe Compound T4/T3 medication.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »
My doctor advised me.snickerscharlie wrote: »Michellelynn219 wrote: »I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.
Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.
Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's.
Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?
Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.
Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there.
Edited to add: And for clarity, Mary Shomon did not author " Stop the Thyroid Madness," either.
Thanks for clearing that up. 0 -
I've seen articles that acknowledge that while adrenal fatigue may not be real, they claim that HPA dysfunction is. Basically, the idea behind it is that certain things (like stress and a poor diet in particular) affect the hypothalamus, which ultimately affects the pituitary and adrenals further down the line. And because of how stress interferes with a lot of normal body function, this dysfunction can lead to a lot of the symptoms of what some people call "adrenal fatigue".
I'm curious what are everyone else's thoughts on whether there is validity to that.0 -
ketomaniac wrote: »I think what people refer to as "Adrenal Fatigue" is the over-activation of our Fight or Flight response, which then leads Chronic Systemic Inflammation in the body. This is usually a result of poor adaptation to environmental stressors and malnutrition.
Coming across the term "adrenal fatigue" in the past, I always associated it with exactly this, not what it "supposedly" means, which is quackery IMO. High cortisol levels, when sustained from poorly adapted stress, do cause physical problems. However, "adrenal fatigue" apparently refers to low cortisol levels, but that would actually be (the real thing) Addison's Disease.1 -
I've had adrenal fatigue from overwork and over stress. It isn't fun. It makes sense that if one runs on adrenaline day after day, the system will suffer. The answer for me was rest. I'm fine now.1
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ForecasterJason wrote: »I've seen articles that acknowledge that while adrenal fatigue may not be real, they claim that HPA dysfunction is. Basically, the idea behind it is that certain things (like stress and a poor diet in particular) affect the hypothalamus, which ultimately affects the pituitary and adrenals further down the line. And because of how stress interferes with a lot of normal body function, this dysfunction can lead to a lot of the symptoms of what some people call "adrenal fatigue".
I'm curious what are everyone else's thoughts on whether there is validity to that.
Being overworked/tired/stressed/whatever - yes,they affect how we feel and if we're able to make lifestyle changes (which may not be possible for everyone)we may feel better. I don't think that calling it a syndrome is necessarily helpful.mommarnurse wrote: »ketomaniac wrote: »I think what people refer to as "Adrenal Fatigue" is the over-activation of our Fight or Flight response, which then leads Chronic Systemic Inflammation in the body. This is usually a result of poor adaptation to environmental stressors and malnutrition.
Coming across the term "adrenal fatigue" in the past, I always associated it with exactly this, not what it "supposedly" means, which is quackery IMO. High cortisol levels, when sustained from poorly adapted stress, do cause physical problems. However, "adrenal fatigue" apparently refers to low cortisol levels, but that would actually be (the real thing) Addison's Disease.
This is what I don't understand. One of the symptoms of adrenal fatigue is weight gain,apparently. But adrenal insufficiency (which I have,from long term steroid use)and Addisons disease,actually caused weight loss. It's also potentially life threatening.
Personally I've not read anything to convince me it's a thing but I know that things like ME and fibromyalgia were once thought not to be a thing but are now well recognised, so I'm willing to keep an open mind.1 -
This is my stance, too. What currently concerns me is that people are being taken advantage of to 'cure' the vague symptoms that Adrenal Fatigue espouses, possibly delaying proper medical attention/diagnosis for real medical issues that need to be addressed and treated.comptonelizabeth wrote: »Personally I've not read anything to convince me it's a thing but I know that things like ME and fibromyalgia were once thought not to be a thing but are now well recognised, so I'm willing to keep an open mind.
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snickerscharlie wrote: »
This is my stance, too. What currently concerns me is that people are being taken advantage of to 'cure' the vague symptoms that Adrenal Fatigue espouses, possibly delaying proper medical attention/diagnosis for real medical issues that need to be addressed and treated.comptonelizabeth wrote: »Personally I've not read anything to convince me it's a thing but I know that things like ME and fibromyalgia were once thought not to be a thing but are now well recognised, so I'm willing to keep an open mind.
Yes, I agree. Including,for example,adrenal insufficiency or Addisons,which is a serious condition!0 -
blueeyetea wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »I've been hearing about this more and more on social media as well as here on MFP.
Apparently, if you're suffering from an entire range of symptoms that are also very common to other ailments, you could be afflicted with 'Adrenal Fatigue.'
Curious as to people's understanding and experience with this syndrome, and whether you think it's genuine or bogus.
I'm currently on the bogus side, but am open-minded, even though the latest scientific study on this does not support Adrenal Fatigue as being a medically diagnosable/recognized ailment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4997656/
Quoted from the website " caused by chronic exposure to stressful situations", which is another definition for "suffering from burnout". Would you consider that bogus too?
No. There's a difference with burnout, and conflating burnout with a hypothesised ailment used to explain/describe burnout. The existence of the former clearly doesn't suffice to defend the truth of the latter in any way whatsoever.2 -
Burnout usually relates to work (or other specific situations such as,for example,being a full time carer) It refers to physical,emotional and mental stress. It's not an illness or a syndrome and can't be treated with supplements.2
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