No meat to lose weight?
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pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.3 -
Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Lol well as long as they don't have raisins...
a raisin shouldn't even be allowed in a cookie..
From Benny and Joon: "A raisin is a failed grape."
One of my all time favourite films
. But it's humiliated grapes 
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I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.1
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jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
I don't want to go into particulars, but there is so much pseudoscience and assorted nonsense in here.
I have no real opinion on vego or vegan so long as they are getting the nutrients (NOT just protein) that meat provides, but seriously ...
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Raisins in cookies??? What is this hell you speak of0
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Raisins in cookies??? What is this hell you speak of
Well, it depends.
You may also find heaven, somewhere
https://food52.com/recipes/32236-buccellati-sicilian-christmas-fig-cookies2 -
Agree, low carb is for those who have diabetes and low fat is for those who got heart issues but i dont think so i have a history of heart disease im operated last 6 years i still eat fats i just make it healthy but not at all lolcrooked_left_hook wrote: »Eat what you normally eat, just eat less of it. Drastic diet plans are unnecessary unless there is a medical need (like diabetes or celiac disease).
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jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
You've got to be kidding. I have seen a lot of ridiculous claims about veganism before, but that it can cure AIDS? That's extremely offensive.19 -
jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
This is the kind of BS talk that gives vegans a bad rap. Veganism cannot, in any version of reality, cure AIDS. You're doing more damage than good with this horse*poop*.14 -
Eating meat won't be the issue per se. Your daily calorie intake will be, that's the key not being a meat eater or vegetarian. I lost the majority of my weight whilst eating meat nearly 30 lbs in total - I then decided to become a veggie I find it easy to maintain and feel better overall.
Drop your cals, exercise regularly to expedite your progress - count everything cos the only person you'll cheat is yourself, if not. Oh and good luck, cos its a full time job.2 -
jahmalmcqueen wrote: »...Electric Food is the best food...
Easily the most shocking revelation I've ever read on MFP. Not sure exactly watt you're talking about, but oh'm all amped up from this current discussion.19 -
jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
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jahmalmcqueen wrote: »...Electric Food is the best food...
Easily the most shocking revelation I've ever read on MFP. Not sure exactly watt you're talking about, but oh'm all amped up from this current discussion.
google "timecube"1 -
VeggieBarbells wrote: »Eating meat won't be the issue per se. Your daily calorie intake will be, that's the key not being a meat eater or vegetarian. I lost the majority of my weight whilst eating meat nearly 30 lbs in total - I then decided to become a veggie I find it easy to maintain and feel better overall.
Drop your cals, exercise regularly to expedite your progress - count everything cos the only person you'll cheat is yourself, if not. Oh and good luck, cos its a full time job.
I doesn't have to be a full time job...if it did I would never be successful.
My best tip (I'm working on this right now) is start planning your meals for the entire week at one time. Enter ALL of it into MFP once...all your meals, all your snacks, everything you can. Use this to plan your food shopping trip. This way you only buy what I need so there are no impulse food purchases and no temptations in the house. Then plan about 30 min to an hour on Sundays to do prep for the week. I found that if do all the work once a week I'm less likely to deviate from the plan and it takes up less time throughout the week. The total time I spend planning, shopping, and prepping for the week is maybe 2-3 hours max depending on how busy the grocery store is.
Once you do this for about a month it gets so much easier because you will have a few weeks of menus that you can just copy from. It took me a little while to figure out this method but it changed my life once I did.1 -
Three words. Cinnamon oatmeal cookie.4
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Huh? Why cut any food out to lose weight? What happens after you lose weight?2
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At the risk of catching all kinds of hell, I like raisins in cookies.
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Look_Its_Kriss wrote: »Hahaha, Are they chocolate chip?
Mmm gluten free girl scout toffee cookies. I didn't even know they had gf until someone gifted me with three boxes this year. I've been hoarding them
I don't eat gf, but I'm always down for trying new things. I also love toffee and cookies. I heard the toffee-tastic were terrible, but I think they're great! And not ridiculous with calories like a lot of gf stand-ins.0 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commented1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
an alkaline diet cannot change your pH levels, so that is a load of woo. as for aids being cured? nope,no cure it can be treated but not cured same with diabetes,you cant cure it but you can seem to put it into a type of remission and not have issues if you reverse the effects and stick with it. The reason anyone puts on weight is because they are eating too much. its that simple.1 -
Meat is the best value calorie for calorie to get protein. Lean meat anyway. I definitely wouldn't have much luck with my deficit if I had to find alternatives to lean meat to get all the protein my body requires. Typically carbs are the only macro I can tweak to create a deficit. That's not me saying slash carbs, that's me saying your body needs adequate fats and protein but it may not need 200g carbs depending on your activity level.3
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In case anyone is interested in what an 'Electric Food' is...
http://www.naturallifeenergy.com/electric-foods-feed-african-genome/
I got two paragraphs in and had to stop because I was laughing too hard. Enjoy.3 -
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.1 -
I have lost 34 pounds since the beginning of the year, with a balanced diet. I average about 100 g of meat or fish on most days, but most of my calories are from vegetables and fruit.0
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I recommend at minimum 0.6-0.8g per pound of a healthy goal weight. More is fine. Less is (IMO) risky. You can get this much on a vegan or vegetarian regime, no problem.
Can you help me to know how I can get 112g of protein on a vegetarian/vegan diet? That would be 0.7g per pound on my 160 pound healthy goal weight.0 -
crooked_left_hook wrote: »In case anyone is interested in what an 'Electric Food' is...
http://www.naturallifeenergy.com/electric-foods-feed-african-genome/
I got two paragraphs in and had to stop because I was laughing too hard. Enjoy.
I just..... nope I can't.1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.2 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park! 4 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
There are many foods I can eat that my dog can't, that are toxic and would kill him. Sorry but every vet I've ever been to says no bones-ever. As another user said, not worth risking my dogs life.3 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
heres the thing, you dont know what I feed my dog,you are assuming. you dont know if Im feeding them kibble, or not. I dont feed them anything that could possibly kill them or cause them harm. That is my choice.
my dogs are healthy as well. fur isnt the only indication of good /bad health.I had a husky who was healthy on the outside and she developed diabetes and kidney failure later in life,although before that she was healthy. some dogs end up with certain diseases/health issues no matter what,same with people. Like I said its your choice, I just wont risk it for my boys.3
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