No meat to lose weight?
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By the "electric foods" logic, I could live off nothing but water and electrolyte supplements and be the healthiest person alive instead of dying of starvation. (I do not suggest anyone actually do or try that)2
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Its really simple. Burn more calories than you eat aka calorie deficit. Eat whatever you want as long as you maintain a calorie deficit. After you are maintaining a nice deficit and have adjust to it then you can fine tune the portions and macros. Keep it simple for as long as you can.0
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jahmalmcqueen wrote: »I play professional basketball and I am a Vegan dont listen to the lies about all this protein excess crap. Eat a clean vegan diet and workout hard you will see and feel the best results in your life now and in the longevity and overall health. Also look up Dr Sebi he has cured everything from Aids to Diabeties. No meat No dairy No Startch. Clean Alkaline Vegan Diet. A lot of the time vegans and vegetarians put on bad weight is cause they fail to do the proper investigation. Have a solid foundation and youll be good. Electric Food is the best food otherwise your putting dead flesh in your system and are a walking cemetery.
Oh good lord, not that quack again. Dr Sebi is a dangerous fool who has caused more than a few deaths with his malarkey.3 -
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them.
They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
I do the same with my dogs, but i mush up the bones with a fork to make sure there's no sharp bits,and i do usually find some..
Aint nothing wrong with raw bones, beef or chicken carcasses. I've fed my dogs a B.A.R.F type diet for close to 25 years, kibble is for emergencies only, and have never had one problem.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
I do the same with my dogs, but i mush up the bones with a fork to make sure there's no sharp bits,and i do usually find some..
Aint nothing wrong with raw bones, beef or chicken carcasses. I've fed my dogs a B.A.R.F type diet for close to 25 years, kibble is for emergencies only, and have never had one problem.
My dog almost always refuses to eat raw meat. It took forever for her to learn to like raw bones and skin. So I cook her meat for her. I even heat it up when I dish it up from out of the fridge.
Have you tried giving whole eggs to your dog? Mine likes them. She'll pierce a hole and then spend the next 15 minutes licking out the contents, then eat the shell!0 -
Hehe i warm up my dogs food in the microwave too.
Yes, they love raw eggs, it's funny watching them trying to figure it out. Our Mastiff girl is soooo gentle, it's like she's terrified of breaking it lol1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
See:CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »I was a vegetarian for a while. I mostly did it to support my roommate who went vegetarian, but there was a moral component to it as well.
Ended up gaining weight.... Haha.
Now I eat meat, but I try not to have it be boneless, skinless etc. I eat meat off the bone and with the skin. I even save the bones and then make bone stock with them! Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
I think that's how meat was intended to be consumed.
That was more of an answer than you asked for... but I'm very satisfied with this process.
off topic but cooked bones should NOT be given to dogs, especially poultry bones,those should never be given at all. cooked bones can splinter and cause damage and even kill a dog. PS what the person said above about the bones is correct. just didnt see the post before I commentedSierraFatToSkinny wrote: »pitbullmamaliz wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Then I give the softened bones to my dog as a treat. I try to have as little waste of animal products as possible. I even eat organ meat.
@SierraFatToSkinny , this is completely off topic but please don't EVER feed cooked bones to your dog. Cooked bones splinter and are very dangerous to feed, regardless of the size of your dog or the bone.
I cook them until they're soft. (Which I mentioned in my original post.)
As in edible. It's very healthy and safe. I make my own dog food so my dog needs some marrow in her diet. She either gets them raw or after two days in the crockpot.
They're perfectly safe when they're soft.
They're soft enough YOU can eat them. They're essentially marrow bone treats.
If you have a dog you should try it! Just use a crockpot and cook them until you can tear apart a bone with your fingers. I usually do two days on low heat.
I then use the bone broth for soup bases.
sorry but Im not going to risk my dogs life either way. if you want to risk it, thats your decision.and just because I could safely eat them doesnt mean its safe for my dog. some foods that are safe for me to eat are toxic to my dogs. not worth a risk or unnecessary vet bills in my opinion.
... They're homemade dog treats.... The kibble you're feeding your dog is way worse for them than the softened bones.
It isn't a risk at all. It's nutrient dense and good for them. As long as the bones are either raw or cooked till soft.
My dog eats a 100% homemade diet and my vet not only knows, but approves. My girl has the glossiest fur in the dog park!
I do the same with my dogs, but i mush up the bones with a fork to make sure there's no sharp bits,and i do usually find some..
Aint nothing wrong with raw bones, beef or chicken carcasses. I've fed my dogs a B.A.R.F type diet for close to 25 years, kibble is for emergencies only, and have never had one problem.
My dog almost always refuses to eat raw meat. It took forever for her to learn to like raw bones and skin. So I cook her meat for her. I even heat it up when I dish it up from out of the fridge.
Have you tried giving whole eggs to your dog? Mine likes them. She'll pierce a hole and then spend the next 15 minutes licking out the contents, then eat the shell!
Heh, I'm going to have to try that with my dog, he loves an egg cracked over his food but I've never given him one in the shell...1 -
crooked_left_hook wrote: »PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »At the risk of catching all kinds of hell, I like raisins in cookies.
Me too! What's an Oatmeal Raisin cookie without raisins?!
I make the oatmeal raisin cookies from Joy of Cooking, then in the last step add chocolate chips instead of raisins. I call them oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. Much improved.4 -
So much raisin hate in here.
Vegan protein is pretty easy to get if you add seitan to your meals. It's versatile, and mine is ~21g protein per 125 cals. I also do some high protein tofu and other soy products, but I try to minimize those. Protein has never really been much of a challenge. I usually shoot for somewhere between 100-140g a day and don't struggle with it too much.
Now Vit D and Calcium, those can be hard to get if you're not paying attention!
(And to the vegan who thinks veganism can cure cancer and aids, just stop. It's a series of food choices, not a miracle cure.)5 -
Sigh. I like raisins. I'm such an outcast.3
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Alatariel75 wrote: »Sigh. I like raisins. I'm such an outcast.
Don't worry, there's a secret cadre of us.
Me, I secretly (?) think Oreos are disgusting non-food items made from dark-brown fiberboard and unflavored toothpaste. But I never mention that here.
Oh . . . oops.3 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »Sigh. I like raisins. I'm such an outcast.
Don't worry, there's a secret cadre of us.
Me, I secretly (?) think Oreos are disgusting non-food items made from dark-brown fiberboard and unflavored toothpaste. But I never mention that here.
Oh . . . oops.
I don't particularly like Oreos either. There's just no payoff for the calories. I'd much rather have warm, chewy oatmeal raisin cookies 2
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