Whst am I doing wrong
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I gained 2 pounds after my leg workout on Saturday
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I've GAINED three ounces since Monday. *kitten*. I guess I need to eat less and move more. I don't know how. Damn. I mean working out at least an hour 6 days a week and 1250 a day isn't enough? Plus I'm so sore from weighted kickboxing at title boxing Monday my legs are screaming
Seriously?
I can gain 4lb in a day from DOMS, TOM, high sodium meal.
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Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »How did you determine your calories intake? It is possible you might be eating too little
When we eat too much or too little, body can gain weight too.
No, you can't gain by eating too little. You can gain when you think you're eating 1250 but aren't weighing your food and are actually eating more than 1250, or you're overestimating how much you burn with exercise. Both of which are very common.
Either way, 3 ounces is nothing and could be the difference between a glass of water you drank or didn't drink earlier in the day.
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Weight loss isn't like letting air out of a balloon we're complicated bags of water, tissue and partially digested matter (when you drink water it doesn't just go from your throat to your bladder, it has a use, your body retains what it needs for blood, muscle repair and organ function, if you've done extra exercise you'll retain more for muscle repair for example), and fluctuations are completely normal and unavoidable. If you can't cope with seeing those fluctuations (and 3 ounces is a quarter of a cup of water, 85ml) and its affecting your mental health I highly suggest not weighing everyday and possibly seeking counselling.0
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Doomed to be fat and ugly over .3 gain?? You have far more problems than a .3 gain to worry about. I seriously hope that this thread was meant as a joke and that you seriously do not think like that on a daily basis?? Weight loss is not linear, it takes time and patience. Comparing yourself to someone else is just foolish, there are so many factors that go into weight loss and no two people are alike. A .3 gain could be simply that you stood on the scale a centimeter different this time than last? You could gain 2lbs just by drinking a glass of water or eating something higher in sodium, it's not the end of the world... Your drastic emotional response to .3 gain is disturbing to say the least. I would first work on your self esteem issue before trying to lose weight because one should never depend on the other.4
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Three ounces is nothing. It's time to step back and look at your expectations. NOBODY loses weight every single day, not even your sister. The body doesn't work like that. If something like this defeats you, then maybe you should weigh yourself less often.2
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My sister lost eight pounds in a day once: she gave birth.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »to give a precise answer to your question, "What am I doing wrong", you are holding too high expectations for rapid positive feedback on your efforts. You have to be patient and wait for your body to sort through the mess of dealing with all the weight-losey things you're doing to it. Weight loss happens over time, on scales of weeks
Then explain to me how my sister has lost twelve pounds in 4 weeks doing Palo and is already down to 123 from 135 in those 4 weeks.
Context is everything.
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »How did you determine your calories intake? It is possible you might be eating too little
When we eat too much or too little, body can gain weight too.
Starvation mode doesn't exist, you're unable to gain weight by; not consuming!
Well thank you. However, I'm talking about my own experience and others people I came across. It does exist. If your not eating enough, the body will take it from other places you need the nutrition, which makes the body feel hungry. Even if your not feeling hungry.
I been at this for two years.
I just want to know how she determine her calories at 1250?0 -
I can't add much that hasn't already been said except that when you start a new exercise program expect to gain water weight for the first week or two, it'll go away on its own unless you're eating tons of sodium. Drink more water, eat less sodium (stay within the normal daily recommended amounts or slightly above it if you are drinking lots of water), and the weight will start dropping, it probably already has but you just can't tell yet. Expect weight swings from water weight of +/- 5 lbs at any time. This is why most of us log only losses, not gains in our MFP diary. Also, if you are logging everything but not weighing your food with a scale you probably are eating more than 1250 calories a day.0
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Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »How did you determine your calories intake? It is possible you might be eating too little
When we eat too much or too little, body can gain weight too.
Starvation mode doesn't exist, you're unable to gain weight by; not consuming!
Well thank you. However, I'm talking about my own experience and others people I came across. It does exist. If your not eating enough, the body will take it from other places you need the nutrition, which makes the body feel hungry. Even if your not feeling hungry.
I been at this for two years.
I just want to know how she determine her calories at 1250?
That doesn't mean, weight'll be; gained! If I remove a cup of soy milk from the carton & use it, the carton of milk'll weigh a cup less not; a cup more!
While starving causes hunger, the body'll be unable to gain weight unless; it's fed! Since the body'll use other resources until, it's fed metabolism'll lower to; not need as much but it won't gain weight by, using those; resources! It'll still, lose weight because you're subtracting calories not, adding them!0 -
I actually do weigh my foods and if I cannot weigh foods add 20% more calories than on the box because they are allowed a 20% variance in serving sizes. In MFP I always go with the highest listed calories per food and I use my Fitbit and hrm for calories burned0
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Then explain to me how my sister has lost twelve pounds in 4 weeks doing Palo and is already down to 123 from 135 in those 4 weeks.
You do you. You cannot compare yourself to anyone else because everyone goes through this differently and gets different results. And constantly bashing yourself is going to keep you in a negative mindset, so please stop. I've seen your other posts and you need to slow your roll a bit or your going to go completely insane. Slow and steady wins this race. Not obsessing over very minor details like 3 oz.0 -
1. Ignore individual data points watch trends over weeks
2. Consider getting help for negative self image
3. Relax a few days is nothing this is a lifetime project2 -
Weight loss is not linear.
You will have ups and downs on the scale due to water retention - this could be due to difficult workouts, sodium intake, restroom habits, or hormones. You can't control these. This can amount to POUNDS of increase some days - not merely ounces.
Seriously, you are going to have to get used to the scale going up and down. If you are eating at a deficit, it will eventually show a downward trend.
Patience is important in weight loss.0 -
I'm just going to add to the chorus and say weight loss isn't linear. What you're experiencing is NORMAL. I fluctuate 3 lbs throughout every week and I've been in maintenance for a couple years. You have to calm down. Like seriously, calm down. You won't get anywhere stressing out like that.2
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I actually do weigh my foods and if I cannot weigh foods add 20% more calories than on the box because they are allowed a 20% variance in serving sizes. In MFP I always go with the highest listed calories per food and I use my Fitbit and hrm for calories burned
So how long have you been doing the 1 hr/6 days per week routine? What's your height and current weight as well? Can you describe your 1 hour routine? Intensity? Cardio vs weight training? Just curious, it sounds like you're weighing correctly if you are weighing everything and adding calories for labeled/scanned foods. Even that isn't always necessary but it really depends on how much you can be off and still be in a deficit. For instance, I am 6'2" tall so I had many more calories to work with than someone much shorter than me.
Edit: You might also want to open your diary, people might be able to spot inaccuracies that way. Also, unless you are diabetic, don't track sugar, track sodium instead (it's a setting in your diary). Sodium makes a huge difference for weight gain, and as a woman there's likely going to be at least 1 week out of the month (TOM) that your weight will be completely inaccurate. Weighing in during that week or even a few days before or after may not be helpful.0 -
Doomed to be fat and ugly over .3 gain?? You have far more problems than a .3 gain to worry about. I seriously hope that this thread was meant as a joke and that you seriously do not think like that on a daily basis?? Weight loss is not linear, it takes time and patience. Comparing yourself to someone else is just foolish, there are so many factors that go into weight loss and no two people are alike. A .3 gain could be simply that you stood on the scale a centimeter different this time than last? You could gain 2lbs just by drinking a glass of water or eating something higher in sodium, it's not the end of the world... Your drastic emotional response to .3 gain is disturbing to say the least. I would first work on your self esteem issue before trying to lose weight because one should never depend on the other.
No no, over a 0.1875 lb gain! 3 oz over 16 oz in a pound. Yes this is how much she is worried!! Probably shows up on her scale as 0.2 lb. Sheesh, scales aren't even that sensitive, OP! I can lose 0.2 lb just by showering for 10 mins - meaning I'm not losing weight, the scale just can't be that specific. But yes to everything the quote says! It could be anything or NOTHING.1 -
o no, over a 0.1875 lb gain! 3 oz over 16 oz in a pound. Yes this is how much she is worried!! Probably shows up on her scale as 0.2 lb. Sheesh, scales aren't even that sensitive, OP! I can lose 0.2 lb just by showering for 10 mins - meaning I'm not losing weight, the scale just can't be that specific. But yes to everything the quote says! It could be anything or NOTHING.
It's common for someone new to worry about minor fluctuations. This is why I never logged gains, only losses on MFP (unless of course I see consistent gains over a period of weeks). That would give me a better overall look at how my loss was going because those of us who have been doing this for a while know fluctuations of up to 5 or more pounds are normal. If the OP sticks with it and takes the good advice from this thread she'll do fine. I do happen to have a few friends who cannot seem to lose weight at any calorie level (even down to 1200) and who are still many pounds into the overweight BMI category. There's no real reason for it, but CICO just stopped working for them. So it does happen, but almost everyone I know who has that issue had it happen over time, at first they, like everyone else was able to lose weight after the initial shock to their body of exercise they weren't used to.
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Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »Nadine_A_Saad wrote: »How did you determine your calories intake? It is possible you might be eating too little
When we eat too much or too little, body can gain weight too.
Starvation mode doesn't exist, you're unable to gain weight by; not consuming!
Well thank you. However, I'm talking about my own experience and others people I came across. It does exist. If your not eating enough, the body will take it from other places you need the nutrition, which makes the body feel hungry. Even if your not feeling hungry.
I been at this for two years.
I just want to know how she determine her calories at 1250?
No, you are incorrect. You cannot gain fat by eating too little.1 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »@catmomfat to give a precise answer to your question, "What am I doing wrong", you are holding too high expectations for rapid positive feedback on your efforts. You have to be patient and wait for your body to sort through the mess of dealing with all the weight-losey things you're doing to it. Weight loss happens over time, on scales of weeks
Then explain to me how my sister has lost twelve pounds in 4 weeks doing Palo and is already down to 123 from 135 in those 4 weeks.
Because everyone loses or gains weight differently for different reasons... if you gained 3 lbs, maybe have a mini fit and keep it moving but i am seriously concerned for you and questioning your understanding of a lot of things and your self esteem by declaring yourself ugly and fat due to a weight fluctuation of 3 oz. did you maybe mean pounds and not oz??0 -
HeliumIsNoble wrote: »
My sister lost eight pounds in a day once: she gave birth.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »to give a precise answer to your question, "What am I doing wrong", you are holding too high expectations for rapid positive feedback on your efforts. You have to be patient and wait for your body to sort through the mess of dealing with all the weight-losey things you're doing to it. Weight loss happens over time, on scales of weeks
Then explain to me how my sister has lost twelve pounds in 4 weeks doing Palo and is already down to 123 from 135 in those 4 weeks.
Context is everything.
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RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »I've GAINED three ounces since Monday. *kitten*. I guess I need to eat less and move more. I don't know how. Damn. I mean working out at least an hour 6 days a week and 1250 a day isn't enough? Plus I'm so sore from weighted kickboxing at title boxing Monday my legs are screaming
Seriously?
I can gain 4lb in a day from DOMS, TOM, high sodium meal.
You need to educate yourself on how your body works.
^^^ This ^^^
I can swing +/-4 pounds a few times in a week. Tuesdays and Thursday I work from home. I drink a lot less water those days, so the following morning, man am I retaining water. My watch which was loose the night before is strangling my hand off the next morning. And it may take another day or two for my body to rebalance.2 -
As a heavier set woman, I can attest to the “ugly, fat...every “chubby chasers” dream girl etc...yes I do freak out if I gained weight ie: a pound or two however 0.3 pounds takes it to a whole new level. I know we’re all here on this site for different reasons, some for health and others for esthetics. Not everyone loses weight at the same rate. Your expectations are a little farfetched. Your comments on here portray low self esteem/obsession with weight gain. I’m not sure if you posted on here to get reassurance, you’ll certainly find it here. My advice is to seek help, trainer, friend, nutritionist, doctor etc...you’re far too beautiful to be wasting time obsessing over such a minuscule/insignificant weight gain. Life is way too short, enjoy it!0
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I can swing +/-4 pounds a few times in a week. Tuesdays and Thursday I work from home. I drink a lot less water those days, so the following morning, man am I retaining water. My watch which was loose the night before is strangling my hand off the next morning. And it may take another day or two for my body to rebalance.
My biggest gain has been 8lbs overnight lol! It was following a weekend of BBQ averaging about 8k in sodium a day. I lost it all in about 3 days by watching the sodium intake and drinking extra water. That kind of gain will make you wonder if your scale is broken lol.
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I actually do weigh my foods and if I cannot weigh foods add 20% more calories than on the box because they are allowed a 20% variance in serving sizes. In MFP I always go with the highest listed calories per food and I use my Fitbit and hrm for calories burned
I remember you now. You are the one who refuses to weigh many of your foods. That is what you are doing wrong. Stop guesstimating and tighten up your logging.2 -
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Heather4448 wrote: »
Weight fluctuates. Our bodies are extraordinarily complicated.
Yup, and if you draw a straight line from the first date to the last you'll see your weight loss trend is on track.
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Spliner1969 wrote: »o no, over a 0.1875 lb gain! 3 oz over 16 oz in a pound. Yes this is how much she is worried!! Probably shows up on her scale as 0.2 lb. Sheesh, scales aren't even that sensitive, OP! I can lose 0.2 lb just by showering for 10 mins - meaning I'm not losing weight, the scale just can't be that specific. But yes to everything the quote says! It could be anything or NOTHING.
It's common for someone new to worry about minor fluctuations. This is why I never logged gains, only losses on MFP (unless of course I see consistent gains over a period of weeks). That would give me a better overall look at how my loss was going because those of us who have been doing this for a while know fluctuations of up to 5 or more pounds are normal. If the OP sticks with it and takes the good advice from this thread she'll do fine. I do happen to have a few friends who cannot seem to lose weight at any calorie level (even down to 1200) and who are still many pounds into the overweight BMI category. There's no real reason for it, but CICO just stopped working for them. So it does happen, but almost everyone I know who has that issue had it happen over time, at first they, like everyone else was able to lose weight after the initial shock to their body of exercise they weren't used to.
CICO doesn't "just stop working", anymore than simple mathematics "just stops working". 2+2 will always be 4, and 4-2 will always be 2.
There are factors which can mask weight loss, there are errors in accurately calculating intake and/or expenditure, there are medical conditions which can change one end or the other of the equation, but CICO, as a fundamental principle, does not "just stop working". Here is an article with links to 148 different studies relating to the validity of CICO: http://www.completehumanperformance.com/why-calories-count/
[ETA:] As to the OP, I gained 3.3 pounds between yesterday's weigh-in and today's. I know exactly why, and I know it will be gone within the next few days.1 -
In all weight loss journeys you hit a wall and you need to increase your calories and rest a day then reset the next. At least for me that's how it is. My body doesn't like the same schedule over and over....i have to throw a day in every 2 or 3 wks where I mix it up (have a soda, eat 3 or 4 hundred more calories, dont exercise)0
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Spliner1969 wrote: »o no, over a 0.1875 lb gain! 3 oz over 16 oz in a pound. Yes this is how much she is worried!! Probably shows up on her scale as 0.2 lb. Sheesh, scales aren't even that sensitive, OP! I can lose 0.2 lb just by showering for 10 mins - meaning I'm not losing weight, the scale just can't be that specific. But yes to everything the quote says! It could be anything or NOTHING.
It's common for someone new to worry about minor fluctuations. This is why I never logged gains, only losses on MFP (unless of course I see consistent gains over a period of weeks). That would give me a better overall look at how my loss was going because those of us who have been doing this for a while know fluctuations of up to 5 or more pounds are normal. If the OP sticks with it and takes the good advice from this thread she'll do fine. I do happen to have a few friends who cannot seem to lose weight at any calorie level (even down to 1200) and who are still many pounds into the overweight BMI category. There's no real reason for it, but CICO just stopped working for them. So it does happen, but almost everyone I know who has that issue had it happen over time, at first they, like everyone else was able to lose weight after the initial shock to their body of exercise they weren't used to.
CICO doesn't "just stop working", anymore than simple mathematics "just stops working". 2+2 will always be 4, and 4-2 will always be 2.
There are factors which can mask weight loss, there are errors in accurately calculating intake and/or expenditure, there are medical conditions which can change one end or the other of the equation, but CICO, as a fundamental principle, does not "just stop working". Here is an article with links to 148 different studies relating to the validity of CICO: http://www.completehumanperformance.com/why-calories-count/
[ETA:] As to the OP, I gained 3.3 pounds between yesterday's weigh-in and today's. I know exactly why, and I know it will be gone within the next few days.
In general I would agree with you, and it never stopped working for me. But I know people who, for no apparent reason, it has stopped working. They have consulted doctors, tried diet breaks, mixing up their routines, and nothing works even at at 500-800 calorie deficit, and they also weigh and log everything religiously, probably more accurately than I do. There still could be an underlying medical issue causing it, and they are aware of it, but doctors can't find it yet. So it does happen, but the cause is not yet determined. There is one truth out there, and that is everyone is different. What works for one, may not work for another. But yes, in general I am in 99.99995% agreement with you that CICO is all you need.0
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