BULLETPROOF COFFEE:- Anyone tried it?
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comeonnow142857 wrote: »
I was just throwing out a roundabout figure. Not needing to feel I had to be so 'technical.'
Nobody said you had to be so 'technical', not sure where you're getting that from. There is nothing technical about pointing out a vast difference in one thing happening at >400% the rate of another thing, when you brought up these rates to defend a position of those things being equal for you.
Just pointing out that your own personal numbers supported the position that there's a greater rate of water loss with ketogenic dieting than with higher carb dieting, in spite of all the personal variation from other variables that was already being accounted for as a possibility for an individual anecdote not clearly reflecting that fact.
Which of course, all follows, from the non-opinion that carbohydrates retain water.4 -
JerSchmare wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded...
Protein and carbs both have 4 cals per gram. Fat is 9 cals per gram making it more calorie dense. It is easy to eat excessive calories of fat because of the calorie density - there's very little volume for a large chunk of calories
In theory, you use less fat though. Cook with olive oil, but the majority of the food is the chicken. When I was trying keto, I found I could not reach my calorie goals. I was just too full.
But the majority of calories is probably from fat.1 -
JerSchmare wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded...
Protein and carbs both have 4 cals per gram. Fat is 9 cals per gram making it more calorie dense. It is easy to eat excessive calories of fat because of the calorie density - there's very little volume for a large chunk of calories
In theory, you use less fat though. Cook with olive oil, but the majority of the food is the chicken. When I was trying keto, I found I could not reach my calorie goals. I was just too full.
I use butter, olive oil and coconut oil. Cheese. Heavy cream. Pepperoni. 80/20 ground beef. Did you always eat chicken? I do sometimes but I mix it up by eating other meats/proteins as well. Eggs.0 -
JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I am trying to understand yes but I am also going to continue Keto until it doesn't suit me anymore. Then I will have to find something else that works. I've never had luck with weight watchers (where you count points and can eat practically anything). I notice when I eat carbs i become addicted so for me, personally, low carb is a good way. I don't need unhealthy carbs and I am still getting some carbs with Keto. I appreciate all of your input but I just didn't come here to be attacked or argued with. Someone asked if I've tried bulletproof coffee and I provided feedback yes. Then it turned into this lol. I'm doing Keto. I wish you all the best with whatever you are doing as well. Peace.
Find what works for life. Start that now.
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I am trying to understand yes but I am also going to continue Keto until it doesn't suit me anymore. Then I will have to find something else that works. I've never had luck with weight watchers (where you count points and can eat practically anything). I notice when I eat carbs i become addicted so for me, personally, low carb is a good way. I don't need unhealthy carbs and I am still getting some carbs with Keto. I appreciate all of your input but I just didn't come here to be attacked or argued with. Someone asked if I've tried bulletproof coffee and I provided feedback yes. Then it turned into this lol. I'm doing Keto. I wish you all the best with whatever you are doing as well. Peace.
Find what works for life. Start that now.
Thanks - But I'm already doing what works for me. It's the only type of diet I've ever been successful on. Take care.1 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I am trying to understand yes but I am also going to continue Keto until it doesn't suit me anymore. Then I will have to find something else that works. I've never had luck with weight watchers (where you count points and can eat practically anything). I notice when I eat carbs i become addicted so for me, personally, low carb is a good way. I don't need unhealthy carbs and I am still getting some carbs with Keto. I appreciate all of your input but I just didn't come here to be attacked or argued with. Someone asked if I've tried bulletproof coffee and I provided feedback yes. Then it turned into this lol. I'm doing Keto. I wish you all the best with whatever you are doing as well. Peace.
Find what works for life. Start that now.
I have todo what works for me. If I stop low carb temporarily to trick my body, then so be it. But for me, low carb is best long term1 -
JerSchmare wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »JerSchmare wrote: »I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
The first time I went on a keto diet I did the exact same thing. And yes, I did lose a fair amount of weight. However after a while I plateaued which is probably because my weight dropped to the point where my maintenance calories coincided with what I was eating. Since going back on keto I've been careful to go with a daily deficit and I've seen a much more consistent weight loss.
And so when I see my weight loss stalking then I can reduce my deficit. Good advice. Thanks
I'm glad you're trying to understand.
Low carb is not magic and it doesn't work for the reasons you think it does. But, it works for you and that's ok. But, just understand that all you are doing is eating less food than your body requires. Typically, the reason for this is that carbs carry a lot of calories. Many of them are empty, nutritionally speaking. Proteins and fats are heavy, and have less calories. So, you can eat more volume of food, and keep full longer.
When I tried keto, I was amazed that I could only fit about 1400 calories into my belly. At that time, I usually ate around 2500 to 3,000 on a non-keto diet.
I stopped because I felt it was unnecessarily restrictive.
I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded...
Protein and carbs both have 4 cals per gram. Fat is 9 cals per gram making it more calorie dense. It is easy to eat excessive calories of fat because of the calorie density - there's very little volume for a large chunk of calories
In theory, you use less fat though. Cook with olive oil, but the majority of the food is the chicken. When I was trying keto, I found I could not reach my calorie goals. I was just too full.
But the majority of calories is probably from fat.
Ok, this is getting ridiculous now.
I'm done lol. I came here to offer my opinion on bulletproof coffee to someone who asked. Sometimes everyone's opinion isn't needed if not requested. Many people don't understand that. Not referring to you. Just in general. So many internet gurus lol0 -
I'm done lol. I came here to offer my opinion on bulletproof coffee to someone who asked. Sometimes everyone's opinion isn't needed if not requested. Many people don't understand that. Not referring to you. Just in general. So many internet gurus lol
I'm referring to you here, because I don't like passive aggression - like this quote of yours - from people who are resentful at the idea that their own ideas are being countered rather than satisfying a sense of entitlement of support of anything you have to say:
A discussion happened. Things were argued. This was healthy, and good.
The rejection of this - your explicit rejection of this (in response to you countering another poster!), and expectation of support for things that people disagree with - is unhealthy, and bad.
But continue to eat in a manner that keeps you physically healthy and you find sustainable. Just know that if you start talking about it on other levels, people will have the gall to argue the facts. And being resentful of that, being passive aggressive over that, happens with ideas that didn't just hold up to the scrutiny.9 -
There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.4 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Hate to tell you but carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram, and fat is 9 calories per gram. Repeating "I'm doing keto" a million times every day will not change this.
I would suggest tracking everything you put in you mouth, including your bulletproof mocha if you want to achieve your weight loss goals.
I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
You do realize, that since you just started keto, the 6lbs is water weight, right? I lost 13lbs in 1.5 weeks and it was mostly water weight. There is no way you created a 3000 calorie daily deficit.
I'm down 100lbs eating all the carbs. I've low carb and keto, but meh...5 -
cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
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cerise_noir wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Hate to tell you but carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram, and fat is 9 calories per gram. Repeating "I'm doing keto" a million times every day will not change this.
I would suggest tracking everything you put in you mouth, including your bulletproof mocha if you want to achieve your weight loss goals.
I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
You do realize, that since you just started keto, the 6lbs is water weight, right? I lost 13lbs in 1.5 weeks and it was mostly water weight. There is no way you created a 3000 calorie daily deficit.
Hi you should read the thread first, this has already been discussed. Have a great day0 -
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cerise_noir wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Hate to tell you but carbs and protein have 4 calories per gram, and fat is 9 calories per gram. Repeating "I'm doing keto" a million times every day will not change this.
I would suggest tracking everything you put in you mouth, including your bulletproof mocha if you want to achieve your weight loss goals.
I am but not by the calories. I think I am doing something right because I've already lost 6 lbs. I appreciate your suggestion though.
You do realize, that since you just started keto, the 6lbs is water weight, right? I lost 13lbs in 1.5 weeks and it was mostly water weight. There is no way you created a 3000 calorie daily deficit.
I'm down 100lbs eating all the carbs. I've low carb and keto, but meh...
I lost 127 lbs in 2007-2008 while eating low carb - I gained some (not all) of it back over the years. Not because I ate carbs but because I ate crap. Now I'm trying it again and going to use it as my primary lifestyle (aside of a cheat day here and there). This is what will work for me by sticking to it long term.0 -
Yes I have and I don't understand the hype. The coffee doesn't taste very different and my life has not changed as a result of drinking it.1
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »
LOL me too. I have to laugh at some of the comments I read on the internet. Too funny.1 -
comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
What a helluva post to flag.
This is why direct, honest discussion wins. It benefits from being argued with and having light shone on it.
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comeonnow142857 wrote: »comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
What a helluva post to flag.
This is why direct, honest discussion wins. It benefits from being argued with and having light shone on it.
I think you can report the flags to the moderators and have them removed.4 -
Tiny_Dancer_in_Pink wrote: »comeonnow142857 wrote: »comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
What a helluva post to flag.
This is why direct, honest discussion wins. It benefits from being argued with and having light shone on it.
I think you can report the flags to the moderators and have them removed.
Thanks!
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »
LOL me too. I have to laugh at some of the comments I read on the internet. Too funny.
Seriously though: Blessed beans: How the pope baptized coffee4 -
comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
Of course counting macros is an indirect way of counting calories. And no, I don't flag posts, ever. That's just silly and childish to flag for disagreement. Ugh.
Over the years, there have been many who suggest that calories do not matter in a keto/low carb lifestyle (only counting carbs matter, they've exclaimed) even though they do from a scientific standpoint. Just making sure. Not for the OPs sake alone, but for lurkers and newbies. Yes, I used to be both LC and keto for many months at a time because I thought I had to when I was a noob at weight loss.6 -
Hi guys,
I've been looking into the benefits of Bulletproof coffee and I am hearing some really positve things on it. Has anyone tried it.
I like it, I do not make it every morning, but at least 3 times a week I have it first thing. There are a variety of ways to make it. I use MCT oil, Kerry Gold unsalted butter, 16 oz of good coffee, and collagen powder (that's for my skin and nails - not necessary). The main key is it has to be mixed either in a blender or with a immersion blender. If it isn't mixed well, it is nasty.0 -
cerise_noir wrote: »comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
Of course counting macros is an indirect way of counting calories. And no, I don't flag posts, ever. That's just silly and childish to flag for disagreement. Ugh.
Over the years, there have been many who suggest that calories do not matter in a keto/low carb lifestyle (only counting carbs matter, they've exclaimed) even though they do from a scientific standpoint. Just making sure. Not for the OPs sake alone, but for lurkers and newbies. Yes, I used to be both LC and keto for many months at a time because I thought I had to when I was a noob at weight loss.
Yep. Even if somebody's using different language to say some of the same things (so; practically useful but confusing, misleading to anyone coming from a different context), it's important to tackle it directly and get down to what the facts are, in both commonalities and differences of positions. So we can be really clear about what's true, what's not, what we're unsure about or really disagree about, and not have to obfuscate/hide behind any of it.
And shying away from that clarity, or pursuit of clarity, is toxic. Healthy common ground = embracing open and direct discussion. What would be unhealthy and harmful common ground if you got your way = assuming that you're entitled to support and positivity for whatever claims you happen to spout.5 -
That stuff is potentially deadly. High in saturated fat and depending on your genetics, can raise your LDL(bad) cholesterol.
Bob Harper(biggest loser trainer) said on a Rachel Ray episode last year, that he drinks bulletproof coffee (with coconut oil and ghee/butter)every single morning before his workout. He was also on the paleo diet....He got a massive heart attack about a month ago. He's lucky to be alive.1 -
comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »comeonnow142857 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »There is nothing magical about it. It tastes pretty good though. It is a lot of calories though and you have to count them because they don't magically melt away. To me it's not worth wasting 100 or more calories on a morning coffee, but to eat their own.
On the ketogenic diet you do not count calories. You use carbs, protein and fat as your macros. That's it. Nothing else. So calories have nothing to do with it on the Keto diet which is what it was designed for use with.
Weight loss is all about calories. With all that fat, one better be counting calories considering fat has 9 calories per gram.
Turns out she was counting macros all along, so counting calorie subgroups, which of course is indirectly counting calories, calories of course which have everything to do with the keto diet working (and not), and how that counting of macros actually functions, and how the coffee fits in to it all, which all vindicates cerise's post and renders the response a little nonsensical.
Of course counting macros is an indirect way of counting calories. And no, I don't flag posts, ever. That's just silly and childish to flag for disagreement. Ugh.
Over the years, there have been many who suggest that calories do not matter in a keto/low carb lifestyle (only counting carbs matter, they've exclaimed) even though they do from a scientific standpoint. Just making sure. Not for the OPs sake alone, but for lurkers and newbies. Yes, I used to be both LC and keto for many months at a time because I thought I had to when I was a noob at weight loss.
Yep. Even if somebody's using different language to say some of the same things (so; practically useful but confusing, misleading to anyone coming from a different context), it's important to tackle it directly and get down to what the facts are, in both commonalities and differences of positions. So we can be really clear about what's true, what's not, what we're unsure about or really disagree about, and not have to obfuscate/hide behind any of it.
And shying away from that clarity, or pursuit of clarity, is toxic. Healthy common ground = embracing open and direct discussion. What would be unhealthy and harmful common ground if you got your way = assuming that you're entitled to support and positivity for whatever claims you happen to spout.
Absolutely! Glad we cleared that up.
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Traveler120 wrote: »That stuff is potentially deadly. High in saturated fat and depending on your genetics, can raise your LDL(bad) cholesterol.
Bob Harper(biggest loser trainer) said on a Rachel Ray episode last year, that he drinks bulletproof coffee (with coconut oil and ghee/butter)every single morning before his workout. He was also on the paleo diet....He got a massive heart attack about a month ago. He's lucky to be alive.
Considering the fact that he was in the middle of a gym workout when his heart attack hit must mean that exercise is also potentially deadly. Bob's mother died of a heart attack. He may be genetically predisposed to heart disease and in some cases you are just going to inherit what runs in your family. That doesn't mean you should live in fear of saturated fat. Saturated fat is necessary. You cannot take what happened to one person and apply it to everyone. My 80 year old grandmother has always drank a lot of whole milk and ate plenty of butter. She has never had any type of heart trouble what so ever.4 -
I love my bulletproof coffee. I put coconut oil in instead of butter, because it is really good for your brain. God knows mine needs all the help it can get. I also use a stick blender, then it looks just like a latte. 0
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