Artificial Sweeteners?
nicolepburgess91
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I like sugar in my coffee. I can barely stomach it plain. But it adds more calories than I'd like to see. I'm looking into artificial sweeteners and I'm finding very conflicting information about its benefits/harmful effects.
I'm not looking for scientific data - but, rather personal experience stories.
Have artificial sweeteners helped you, or hurt you?
I'm not looking for scientific data - but, rather personal experience stories.
Have artificial sweeteners helped you, or hurt you?
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Helped. Reducing calories is the key and artificial sweeteners helped me do that.8
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Sweeteners don't cause cancer and don't have any calories. That's about all you need to know.18
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I like splenda, it helps to keep my calories lower.8
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I know you said you don't want scientific data, but this thread has both and explains why you don't need to worry about aspartame from a health point of view. Just be warned it's 44 pages long.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
Personally, I don't drink a lot of diet drinks as I don't like the aftertaste I get. I've long ago learned to drink coffee black, no sweetener, so that's not been an issue for me for 30+ years. But I'll have a Coke Zero as mix with Crown, Diet tonic with Gin and my protein powder uses Stevia (which, once I got used to doesn't have an aftertaste for me).
I drink more sparkling water than anything. I have a Sodastream machine for that.4 -
They are safe and very helpful to most people. I find them to be terrible tasting so I made the decision to have real sugar but adjust my calories elsewhere because it's worth it to me.5
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Aspartame is possibly the most studied food ingredient on the planet. While I'm sure most of our nutrients are better for you, pretty much nothing - natural or not - has a better established safety record.
Looking for anecdotes rather than scientific information - in regards to harmful effects, and not personal tastes - is a red flag, because it cannot rationally get you to arrive at a decision, people are REALLY bad at assessing variables in causation when it comes to what they're doing to their body, and you can and will get ANY answer you're looking for depending where you go, whether it's in regards to the effects of sweeteners, the CIA tapping your phone, visitations by aliens, ice creams causing murders, or that doing the right/wrong rituals causes and ends eclipses.
I can only give you one for my tastes: I find diet coke satiating, and it doesn't make my teeth sticky like sugar does.12 -
Love them! I used to take my coffee with cream and sugar x 2 but now I've weaned myself to milk and Splenda. I rarely drink pop unless I'm out but if I do I would definitely rather a Coke Zero or a Fresca with whatever they use as a sweetener.1
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Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
See thread quoted above. They are not terrible for people.7 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
They're not terrible for everyone
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I think that artificial sweetners make me hungry... and they don't tast good. I've learned to love coffee and tea without sweetness - though used to like them with two or three spoons of sugar. It took a while but was worth it.2
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Can I ask you a question (one that even excludes most potential variables)? In what foods/drinks did you take them?
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
Broccoli makes me feel bloated and crappy... But I don't think it's terrible and tell everyone to avoid it.
OP, I use stevia in coffee... I prefer the taste to splenda/equal (whatever other brands/types there are). I have no issues with it and don't see the point in wasting my calories on sugar in my drink!12 -
Come to think of it broccoli and onions do that to me too!4
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Tacklewasher wrote: »JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
See thread quoted above. They are not terrible for people.
If I had a penny for every time somebody specified that the aspartame in all the diet coke they drank used to make them fill with gas and get really jittery, I'd have dozens and dozens of pennies, and any thesis of how people are really bad at attributing causation anecdotally (brb how are you that oblivious to caffeine and carbonation) would enable me to buy a pack of delicious diet coke.9 -
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »Artificial sweeteners have always made me feel bloated and crappy...
Avoid them at all cost, there terrible for you...
They make you feel crappy, so everyone else should avoid them as well? Why? Why are they bad? Can you back this statement up with reputable sources?5 -
I'm not a fan of artificial sweeteners, but only because for the majority of them, I can tell they aren't real sugar and taste different to me. Instead, I slowly dropped the amount of sugar I was adding to my tea/coffee and now it doesn't hurt at all to add my 1 sugar sachet into my black tea/coffee.
You won't know how you feel about artificial sweeteners until you try them.
For example, I don't like diet coke but pepsi max is great, both 0 calories with artificial sweeteners. I don't like the taste of one, love the taste of the other.4 -
I personally use a stevia/erithritol blend and have had no issues with it. I actually carry packets of it in my purse to add to coffee when I'm out and about. I will on occasion use zylitol, but if I use too much I get diarrhea and bad gas. Also zylitol is poisonous to our four legged friends, so it's best avoided with pets around.5
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It would have been very difficult for me to lose 80lbs without aspartame. I like sweet drinks too much.5
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I'm not a fan of artificial sweeteners, but only because for the majority of them, I can tell they aren't real sugar and taste different to me. Instead, I slowly dropped the amount of sugar I was adding to my tea/coffee and now it doesn't hurt at all to add my 1 sugar sachet into my black tea/coffee.
You won't know how you feel about artificial sweeteners until you try them.
For example, I don't like diet coke but pepsi max is great, both 0 calories with artificial sweeteners. I don't like the taste of one, love the taste of the other.
You can keep the Pepsi max... Blech! I'll have the diet coke. (but I'll leave the coke zero for someone else... Urgh!)0 -
Helped me a lot. I use them excessively as I drink a lot of warm drinks of all types and drink lots of diet carbonated drinks too.1
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Come to think of it broccoli and onions do that to me too!
They're foods that ferment in the gut/bowel and can cause irritation and therefore bloating. I was very sad to give up broccoli but my IBS thanked me for it.
I use Canderel for my tea and drink caramel lattes from the Tassimo so they're already sweet enough. Diet Coke and diet Dr Pepper gives me tummy problems but I do okay with Diet Pepsi so I think it's just a case of what works for you.2 -
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There is obviously a profit motive in convincing you all that there are no harmful effects associated with artificial sweeteners
However, I fail to see what motive those who speak out against companies that manufacture these products could possibly have...
Obesity, cancer, heart disease, depression, diabetes, have all been on the rise for decades now. All of your diet cupcakes and zero calories sodas have done nothing to help the matter
In fact you could probably graph the rise in these conditions against the rise in sweeteners and find a direct correlation between the two...
Or you can just think about it a little and ask yourself when did you first start to see light cupcakes and diet sodas on the market and ask yourself, gee when did the health of America really start to decline...2 -
There is obviously a profit motive in convincing you all that there are no harmful effects associated with artificial sweeteners
This is vastly overestimating your own ability to know things without bothering to have a light shone on them and see how they stand up to scrutiny.
There is a profit motive available in convincing anybody of anything diet related.However, I fail to see what motive those who speak out against companies that manufacture these products could possibly have...
It couldn't possibly be that people believe in all sorts of woo and many people find a financial niche in it.
But that you fail to see what profit motive could exist with, when simplified and ignoring the widespread existence of marketing niches, STILL boils down to a vastly larger and more powerful sugar industry VS a much smaller and more niche artificial sweetener industry, well that kind of speaks for itself:
You're starting from the conclusion that artificial sweeteners are bad, certainly not the premise of "following the money" (or the studies with controlled variables) and accepting wherever that leads, or having even the vaguest awareness of how there's all sorts of money to be made from all sorts of angles in just about any industry.
You know the guy you sourced earns millions off book deals, right? I'm not saying he doesn't believe in what he's saying and that this isn't his prime motivation, but you fail to see what profit motive there could possibly be? You realise that failure speaks very badly of myopia of your position, not anything about ours, right?Obesity, cancer, heart disease, depression, diabetes, have all been on the rise for decades now. All of your diet cupcakes and zero calories sodas have done nothing to help the matter
Because people are eating more and exercising lessIn fact you could probably graph the rise in these conditions against the rise in sweeteners and find a direct correlation between the two...
You can do the same with ice cream and murders. Drinking alchohol and coughing up muck the next day. See: Every post in my thread pointing out these absurdly spurious and cherry picked correlations. Also: Graph the rise in the popularity of YOUR author and...Or you can just think about it a little and ask yourself when did you first start to see light cupcakes and diet sodas on the market and ask yourself, gee when did the health of America really start to decline...
Clearly it was the diet sodas, and not the dietary conditions of a vast increase in hyper palatable foods and sedentary lifestyle that created a niche for diet sodas.12 -
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JstTheWayIam wrote: »
A YT video is NOT a reputable thoroughly researched scientific source. That's like getting medical info from tumblr...
Your follow up post spouts so much fearmongering and woo it hurts. None of what you claimed has been backed by scientific studies. @comeonnow142857 has the patience of Saints.8 -
My brother used to get a bad rash every time he ate chocolate, that doesn't mean chocolate is "terrible for you".
If they make you feel bad, avoid them. Otherwise, it isn't a worry.4 -
JstTheWayIam wrote: »In fact you could probably graph the rise in these conditions against the rise in sweeteners and find a direct correlation between the two...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuekQC1RXRE10
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