May 2017 Running Challenge

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  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    @garygse - Probably a combination of all of those things. Some days are just like that. then the next one is usually awesome, so you have that to look forward to!

    @KatieJane83 -I love it!!! So cute, especially the shirt. We expect full photos from the race. Good luck and have fun!

    @iofred -Great advice from @WhatMeRunning . Especially the part about not pushing too hard to avoid injury. You have to challenge yourself, but a good warm up and cool down will go a long way.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    Tracking my monthly "non-running" progress for accountability:

    May 1 -P90X3 Total Synergistics + 20 minutes stretching and foam rolling
    May 2- P90X3 Agility+ 45 minutes stationary bike at gym (rolling hills, level 7)
    May 3- Swimming laps 25 minutes -1000M

    I finally joined the gym yesterday evening. After my orientation, it was starting to get late, so I just did an easy workout on the exercise bike. I set it for random hill workout for 45 minutes. It asked me to choose level 1-20. I selected 7 because I didn't want too much resistance for my legs, especially since I had done the agility workout in the morning and my hamstrings had been sore all day. It ended up being pretty easy. My average HR was only 103, so I am not sure how much of a cardio kick it was, but at least it kept my legs loose.

    My swim this morning was a different story. Whew, I have not swam freestyle laps in eons and that was pretty obvious. I ended up doing 1000M, but it took me 25 minutes with the pauses I needed after each 50-100M lap. I saw a guy I know from our running group who does full Iron Mans. He was swimming in the lane next to me and was lapping me about every other lap. What a humbling experience! I know that this is what it is like when you first start out running, and the advancements come quick, so I am just going to keep at it. At least I know I am getting some cardio conditioning in. On the bright side, my legs were sore before going in, but they feel pretty nice and loose now, so I think this will be good for me overall. On the other hand, my arms and shoulders! Holy smokes! Not sure if it's DOMS from the 2 P90X3 sessions or from the swimming, but, wow, they are nice and sore! P90X3 yoga on the schedule for this evening. Looking forward to it!
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    @lporter229 looks like you're starting out great with the non-running workouts! About the swimming, I'd have to take breaks every length, I am no amphibian, that's for sure! Great job!
  • snowyne
    snowyne Posts: 268 Member
    edited May 2017
    5/1 - 3.5 mi.
    5/2 - rest
    5/3 - 6.2 mi.

    May goal: 9.7/100mi.

    Upcoming:
    May 6 - Erin's Run 5K (Bangor, ME)
  • RespectTheKitty
    RespectTheKitty Posts: 1,667 Member
    Stoshew71 wrote: »
    RE: stop lights and having to stop at corners.
    My attitude is, I am running at 5:30 in the morning. Who the heck is driving their car that early in the morning. it's the runners' road until 7 AM. LOL

    Truth. One of the reasons I love running in the morning is that the residential roads are all but deserted. Been trying to run more on asphalt than sidewalks for the sake of my IT band. Luckily the only sidewalk I have to run on is along the busy street right outside my apartment complex, which lasts all of about half a mile.
  • greenolivetree
    greenolivetree Posts: 1,282 Member
    5/1 - 2 mile walk
    5/2 - 15 min plyo/15 min weights/3 mi run/1 mi walk

    My legs were toast after 30 mins of jumping and strength training after work yesterday, but I managed to recoup and make dinner for the guys and then I went out and ran 3 miles. First mile was rough with burning shins and took about 11:30 with stops to walk and stretch shins. Then I used my metronome again for 2 miles. Second mile was 10:09 and third was 9:55 but still had some walk breaks and stops. The metronome seems to get me moving because I managed to hold a 9:13 pace for .4 mile but I can't sustain it. Grrrr! I'm eventually going to get my speed back. I do see this as progress that the metronome is at least getting my feet moving faster even if I have to take breaks.

    QUESTION: Any ideas on why my shins burn only when I start running? This started a few months ago and I'm able to work it out and it doesn't seem to turn into full blown shin splints (although if I ran more miles it probably would!) I warm up for half a mile walking before I run and I start off running slow. I just can't figure out why I've developed this shin problem while running only about 30 miles per month???? I'm going to try not running in the Launch 2 shoes for awhile and see if that helps because it was around the time I switched shoes I think that this started. But after 9 days off running (mostly due to sickness) I was frustrated to still have the burning shins for my first mile last night, and in different shoes. It goes away if I walk a bit and stretch my shins by turning my foot under. It never gets any worse but it never gets any better either!
  • GettingThere62
    GettingThere62 Posts: 83 Member
    edited May 2017
    05/01: 4 miles
    05/03: 4 miles

    Cold, sunny morning in the mountains. Same 4 miles of hills but took almost two minutes off previous time :)

    8 miles total, 42 to go
  • angmarie28
    angmarie28 Posts: 2,895 Member
    no run this morning, I just could not wake up, and Im still feeling sluggish, blah, hope im not getting sick. I also have a strange pain in my left hip/leg, it hurts like the first 1 or 2 steps I take then goes away until i sit down again and then get back up, its been since yesterday, I think I might have pulled something on the elliptical the other day, running yesterday didnt make it worse, so If I have time tonight, I will hop on the treadmill for 3 miles after the little one lays down for bed. Dang I cant wait for my husband to quit this 2nd job, its M,W, and F 5-10pm so it really interrupts my running time. But I guess Ill have to force myself to get up earlier anyways because running in the heat of summer aint happening
  • JessicaMcB
    JessicaMcB Posts: 1,503 Member
    kristinegift wrote: »
    Stoshew71 wrote: »

    RE: Nice pretty trail shoes.
    They are trail shoes. They will stay pretty for 2 seconds. Then they will get muddy. Buy plain unattractive trail shoes that will protect your feet. Get pretty road shoes. :wink:

    @Stoshew71 This is a good point. But you can clean off trail shoes so they're almost as pretty as they were when they started! You can still tell my Sketchers were gorgeous to start even though they've been caked in mud. :D (Also these pretty colors were the only ones on sale in my size; I'd have happily bought boring colors also!)

    I was going to say the same, I always wash my trail shoes! My road shoes not as often but I don't love them as much ;)
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    edited May 2017
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?

    I'm glad you asked this, because I plugged the info in from my last "estimated" strava 10k, and the results, while promising, seemed almost too good....
  • WhatMeRunning
    WhatMeRunning Posts: 3,538 Member
    edited May 2017
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?
    I have not seen an accurate HM prediction from a 5k personally. Likewise the predicted full marathon times from my best HM times scare the bejeesus out of me. There is no way that is possible.

    All that said though. Part of it is mental, part physical, I believe. I may very well be physically capable of cranking out that crazy HM time based on my best 5k effort given enough training at that pace AND provided I run so hard I puke the final 5k of the HM. The problem I have is that I have yet to be able to push myself those kinds of distances at those sorts of efforts. This waffling would cause such skewed results.

    So, in short, I think the Daniel's predictions may be spot on if you are made of steel, and not whipped jello like I am.
  • HRKinchen
    HRKinchen Posts: 202 Member
    Another dreadmill run this morning - this one brought on by thunderstorms with lightning. :disappointed: So I decided to work on endurance and, with the treadmill keeping a steady pace, forced myself to go slowly enough to run for 30 minutes nonstop (2 miles at 4mph). First time I've ever done that! I usually run at a speed of ~5-6mph (still slow, but at least I feel like I'm moving :lol:), but I can never sustain it for more than 15-20 minutes. Today's pace felt almost ridiculous, by comparison, but it worked. Now I'm wondering if I should do more work on the TM until I get better at pacing myself. Just wish I could put the darn thing outside. I hate running inside.

    5/1: 2.0 (2.0/30)
    5/2: 2.25 TM (4.25/30)
    5/3: 2.75 TM (7/30)


  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?

    I have found them to be surprisingly accurate, with the caveat that it assumes that you are bringing your "A" game to each race. In other words, if this is your best effort in your 5K, then that will be what you are capable of in your half marathon. If you did not go all out on that 5K, then you might actually be capable of a faster half marathon. And by "all out", I mean reaching close to max heart rate near the end of the run and feeling like you had nothing left to give. It also depends on how close your races are and where you are in your training. For example, the half-marathon I ran in October and the 10K I ran in February compare fairly closely when I plug them in, but they predict a much faster marathon and 5K than what I have run, but I also did those distances over a year prior (not including my most recent marathon which was run injured), so there were some gains made through training.

    For me, the best predictor is the lactate threshold pace. If you have a good idea of what that is for you, see how it compares to what is predicted based on your race time. If you don't know your LT pace, think about the maximum pace you might be able to sustain for an hour. If I plug in my my marathon PR, the LT pace it suggests for me is very close to what my LT pace was when I was training for that race. Conversely, if I plug in my HM PR, the LT pace matches up better with what it was when I was training for that race. So if you plug in your 5K results and the LT pace it suggests for you sounds about right for where you are now, then I think the predictor will be pretty close. If you think your LT pace is faster, then you can probably expect a faster HM. If it sound too fast, then your HM might be slower. At least this has been my experience.
  • KatieJane83
    KatieJane83 Posts: 2,002 Member
    edited May 2017
    MNLittleFinn wrote: »
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?

    I'm glad you asked this, because I plugged the info in from my last "estimated" strava 10k, and the results, while promising, seemed almost too good....
    WhatMeRunning wrote: »
    KatieJane83 wrote: »
    So, I do understand that it's an estimate, but does anyone have any experience with how accurately the Daniels VDOT Running Calculator can predict a longer race finishing time from a short race finishing time? My most recent race was a 5k. I haven't had a race longer than that since the fall. My ultimate, dream (for now) goal for my half is a sub-2:00:00, and according to Daniel's VDOT running calculator, based on my 25:29 5k time, it predicts a 1:57 half marathon time. But, I just have trouble believing it can accurately scale up from such a short distance to a much longer distance. Any personal anecdotes?
    I have not seen an accurate HM prediction from a 5k personally. Likewise the predicted full marathon times from my best HM times scare the bejeesus out of me. There is no way that is possible.

    All that said though. Part of it is mental, part physical, I believe. I may very well be physically capable of cranking out that crazy HM time based on my best 5k effort given enough training at that pace AND provided I run so hard I puke the final 5k of the HM. The problem I have is that I have yet to be able to push myself those kinds of distances at those sorts of efforts. This waffling would cause such skewed results.

    So, in short, I think the Daniel's predictions may be spot on if you are made of steel, and not whipped jello like I am.

    Yeah, I'm doubtful, that's why I figured I'd ask here. My first HM, which was in September, I did in 2:09:58 (beat my stretch goal by 2 seconds, lol). I find it hard to believe that I've knocked 13 minutes off my HM time between September and May. Would be nice though. A girl can dream, right? :D
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