Say goodbye to sugar
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ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
I think for most, it comes down to personal preference and what they can stick to long term (within reason). I mean at some level, regardless of what you believe, you have to eat responsibly. Eat a wide variety of food, get your nutrition, maintain a deficit if fat loss is your goal, exercise and get plenty of rest.4 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Wrong. You do NOT become diabetic because of what you eat. You become diabetic because the beta cells in your pancreas are no longer working properly to produce insulin (some will be resistant to the insulin produced). Why does this happen? Genetics, obesity, age, Mom had Gestational diabetes when carrying you, you have been taking statins or certain antidepressants long term, and several other risk factors. Eating carbs does NOT contribute to it except where it adds to excess calories which increases weight.
Unfortunately, people assume that, because the treatment is limiting carbs, carbs are the cause. They are not.
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diannethegeek wrote: »ItsAllMental819 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »OP, the ONLY rule to weight loss is to eat fewer calories than your body uses in a day. It doesn't matter (for weight loss) whether those calories are sugar, fats, carbs (which sugar is), or protein. It doesn't matter what time of day you eat those calories. It doesn't matter if you eat them all in one sitting, or in six different small meals per day.
ALL THAT MATTERS FOR WEIGHT LOSS IS EATING FEWER CALORIES PER DAY THAN YOUR BODY USES.
Good luck.
Believe what you want, we all have our own opinions & yes the key to losing weight is caloric deficiency but how you do it matters. If you eat all your calories at 8am your metabolism slows. If you eat all simple sugars you'll burn them, be hungry and probably become a type 2 diabetic... There are different types of carbs (complex carbs) too, not just sugar.
Now if your trying to lose fat and not muscle you need to eat enough protein so your not losing both or just muscle.
Nothing wrong with cutting sugars and it is healthy... I always keep them under 45g daily & under 20g when cutting. Fat on the other hand I don't regulate but don't go out of control - just eat a lot of eggs and steak so it comes with the territory.
Imo macros DEFINITELY matter if you wanna be healthy and not just lose weight as the OP stated but to each there own... Good luck to you in your journey.
I would like to see your citation about metabolism slowing if you eat all of your calories in the morning. Get hungry, lower energy, moody, those I can get behind. But how much does the metabolism slow and by what mechanism?
Overall, all that we know about the OP exists in a couple of threads here. In this particular thread we get:Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
This doesn't sound to me like someone who fully understands weight loss or good nutrition, which is why I've been so anxious to get them to come back and clarify their stance on cutting fats. I don't think it's out of the question to get back to the basics for this particular OP as @quiksylver296 has done in the post you quoted. I just don't get the hate for telling someone how weight loss occurs when the OP specifically stated how they think it occurs and was wrong. Information is good.
Thanks for arguing my poing, @diannethegeek, @nutmegoreo, and everyone else. I was at the gym, and then busy making Cadbury mini-eggs fit in my macros for the day.
(Yep, I eat IIFYM, but I still know it all comes down to CICO, @ItsAllMental819.
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ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
the thing is sugar = sugar; source does not matter...
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christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
You have fun with that.
You will have to pry them from my cold dead hands. 5 -
Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.0 -
Tweaking_Time wrote: »Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.
Any alcohol diet is okay in my book0 -
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Tweaking_Time wrote: »Gave up sugar...but not fat or liquor. I lost 80 pounds in 18 months anyway just counting the calories.
Calories in < calories out = weight loss.
Simple math really.
Noooo!!! Sugar turns to fat even on a 900 calorie diet.
Ummmm but he lost 80 pounds whilst drinking alcohol ... so winner0 -
christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
@christinaki89 saying goodbye to sugar and grain was a lifesaver for me at the age of 63. I however did add a lot of plant based fats like coconut oil and olive oil and naturally got away from animal protein except for fish.
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For about $12 I got a used copy but never used copy in just two days with Prime.-2 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars?
OP is the one who said that. So cutting all sugar (and all fat) was the topic of the thread.
Again, the topic is not whether cutting down on certain kinds of sugar (while not cutting down on fat or some such) might be healthy. If you eat lots of extra sugar or an unbalanced diet, of course it is. But that's not what everyone was discussing, was it?0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
@christinaki89 saying goodbye to sugar and grain was a lifesaver for me at the age of 63. I however did add a lot of plant based fats like coconut oil and olive oil and naturally got away from animal protein except for fish.
I thought you were big into the eggs at McD's and coffee with 6 or 10 creams. Not saying there's anything wrong with cream or eggs (OP might!) but I'd call that animal fats.5 -
Hthrbee1978 wrote: »Hthrbee1978 wrote: »DaintyWhisper wrote: »But I like sugar and fats.. : (
Healthy fats are fine, but most sugars are superfluous.
"Because sugar is such a major source of empty calories, however, the American Heart Association recommends certain daily limits. If you’re male, you should have no more than 150 calories from sugar daily; this equates to 9 teaspoons or about 38 grams. As a woman, you shouldn’t have more than 100 calories, which is 6 teaspoons or 25 grams of sugar each day. These limitations only apply to added sugar, though, not to naturally occurring sugars."
Source: http://www.livestrong.com/article/458616-how-much-sugar-is-your-body-supposed-to-take-in-a-day/
wrong ...
they provide the same unit of energy that a carrot does...so not "empty"
So, eat 30 teaspoons of sugar every day for a month... then eat 30 baby carrots everyday for a month.. let me know how you feel at the end of each month.
You do realise that with eating that many carrots you have the distinct chance of turning orange, don't you? As with any food, excess is a problem whether that be sugar (who in their right mind would eat 30 tsp of sugar in a day) or carrots.6 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
This is contradictory, as most fruits contain simple sugars - not complex.11 -
ItsAllMental819 wrote: »Yinz spend a lot of time here... But I appreciate the responses... Please read the entire study - Its actually 12 meals vs 2 & talks about insulin and metabolic responses. It never said that 3 meals a day had increased metabolism also. They incorporated other info within their work.
Again, when did I say cut ALL sugars? Said cutting down simple sugars is healthy... I love me some fruit & veggies and they are low calorie.
Thanks again all.
This is contradictory, as most fruits contain simple sugars - not complex.
Beat me to it...0 -
You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.2
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"Sugars Don’t Ruin Your Health…Unless You Eat Like an Idiot and Refuse to Exercise"
“It is important to state at the outset that there is no direct connection between added sugars intake and obesity unless excessive consumption of sugar-containing beverages and foods leads to energy imbalance and the resultant weight gain.”
https://www.muscleforlife.com/sugar-facts/4 -
sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!3 -
sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!
http://time.com/4648436/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/
I found this interesting. I do love the Paul Newman Balsamic Vinaigrette from McDonald's and picked up more pickled eggs from WalMart last night. The vinegar taste is almost addictive to me for some reason. If there is a weight loss connection that would be another plus of vinegar in my view.1 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!
http://time.com/4648436/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/
I found this interesting. I do love the Paul Newman Balsamic Vinaigrette from McDonald's and picked up more pickled eggs from WalMart last night. The vinegar taste is almost addictive to me for some reason. If there is a weight loss connection that would be another plus of vinegar in my view.
It has sugar in it.
And your link doesn't work.5 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!
http://time.com/4648436/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/
I found this interesting. I do love the Paul Newman Balsamic Vinaigrette from McDonald's and picked up more pickled eggs from WalMart last night. The vinegar taste is almost addictive to me for some reason. If there is a weight loss connection that would be another plus of vinegar in my view.
It has sugar in it.
And your link doesn't work.
Not only does the dressing have added sugar, but balsamic vinegar itself has 2.4 grams of sugar per 1 tablespoon serving.13 -
GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
So you maintained an energy deficit to lose 10 lbs. That's great!
http://time.com/4648436/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/
I found this interesting. I do love the Paul Newman Balsamic Vinaigrette from McDonald's and picked up more pickled eggs from WalMart last night. The vinegar taste is almost addictive to me for some reason. If there is a weight loss connection that would be another plus of vinegar in my view.
It has sugar in it.
And your link doesn't work.
Here's the label...
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sandytaffy wrote: »You should look into it, especially about the sugar. One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar. I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams. That is the only change I made to my diet, nothing else, and I lost 10 lbs. I have now taken the initiative and began a light cardio/strength routine. Very light, lol. Seriously, think about it. Good luck to all.
you lost weight because you restricted calorie dense foods that had sugar in them.
and eating more than 20 grams a day of sugar is not unhealthy...3 -
sandytaffy wrote: »One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar.
Doesn't it depend on how much sugar you consume, the source of the sugar (and how many calories and what other foods make up those calories)?I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams.
20 grams seems awfully low if you still eat candy and home baked goods. I can go over 20 g from vegetables alone. Add some fruit, dairy, nuts, a sweet potato, whatever, and being under 20 is unlikely, even just on whole, nutrient-dense foods. So fitting in candy and baked goods for with that number seems hard to imagine.
In any case it's an artificial limit and has nothing to do with nutrition or what a healthy diet requires.4 -
christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
No. The biggest reason for gaining weight is too many calories. I welcome sugar and fat in my life, mainly because your body requires glucose as well as fat to function. I have also lost 57 pounds (counting loss before starting MFP).
I dont think a well established weight loss & fitness site is looking for newbies to be experts at telling everyone else how they need to lose weight.
@christinaki89 Why dont you hang around awhile, learn from the vets here, lose some weight, ask questions, encourage others, then maybe share some insights on what is working for you, and not preach what we ALL need to do, because we don't. Weight loss is by CICO, how you accomplish CICO has almost infinite variety.
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Just stop eating more calories than you burn. That's all you need to do.christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
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lemurcat12 wrote: »sandytaffy wrote: »One of the best things you can do for your body is to cut back on sugar.
Doesn't it depend on how much sugar you consume, the source of the sugar (and how many calories and what other foods make up those calories)?I, myself, will take in no more than 20 grams of sugar a day. I still eat candy, home baked goods, I just ensure that my intake is no more than 20 grams.
20 grams seems awfully low if you still eat candy and home baked goods. I can go over 20 g from vegetables alone. Add some fruit, dairy, nuts, a sweet potato, whatever, and being under 20 is unlikely, even just on whole, nutrient-dense foods. So fitting in candy and baked goods for with that number seems hard to imagine.
In any case it's an artificial limit and has nothing to do with nutrition or what a healthy diet requires.
Heck, yeah - I just got more than 20g of sugar at breakfast from my plain Greek yogurt and the skimmed milk in my (un-sugared) coffee.
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What if you have medical reasons for limiting protein and fats?christinaki89 wrote: »Let's face it one of the biggest reasons why we gain weight are sugar and fats...let's say goodbye to them and move forward to a healthier and better life
Actually is sugar and carbs that convert to sugar. Limit those and I promise you will see results fast.
I've lost weight while eating a carb heavy diet.
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I watched a great documentary on Netflix yesterday called Fed Up.
I think dumping the sugar, including all forms of natural and manufactured sugar, is a great idea. But, I'll stick with my healthy fats (avocado, nuts, coconut oil) to keep me full!0
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